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Posted February 14, 2023 06:04 · last edited February 14, 2023 06:18

Probably gonna piss everyone off but:

A useful thing to remember is that nobody really knows what life is like in the other shoes.  Whether that is blue collar complaining about white collar, white collar complaining about blue collar, farmers whining about city folk, and city folk whining about farmers.

When it comes to the above post I like most of the sentiment, but if you grew up in poverty, and you have been living hand to mouth for years and can be dealing with the long term consequences of a dumbe decision in your teens well into your 30s or longer.  And once you are in that loop getting out can be much harder.  Maybe you don't have the internet so don't know how to research learning new skills.  There are a substantial number of people that don't know how to help themselves, and don't know how to find out how.

As for mental health, there are a lot more who are embracing understandings of mental health and what not these days, but plenty that still don't.  I really stirggled to get through a whānau dinner recently where some cousins were moking the fact that John Kirwin was being soft about mental health and how he needed to toughen up.  These views will exist for a while.  My brother in law is a farmer and he took far too long to come to terms with his kid being autistic, instead opting to just say he was learning a bit differently and he will catch up.  He came around and has been fantastic with his sons needs for a long time.  He also finally recently admitted he believes in climate change (with the caveat that humans have no impact on it, small steps I guess).  So a lot of that still permeates through.

As for a post above, it really sharks me to say something to the effect of "It would be great if people could take care of their mental health, I wish every industry did it, but I don't get to, so these footballer shouldn't" is terrible.  Especially with so many of them being kids.  They need it more than many of us, and to suggest denying it because you need them playing a game for your escapsim is selfish at best.

And as for the situation of these you women taking time off for their mental health.  Please show a tiny fraction of empathy.  They get paid fudge all and we expect them to perform and train like pro's.  Speaking of making a slim personal profit margin being hard, these players who are your escapism aren't even making enough to survive. 

So show the players we love some support.  If they need more support they should bloody get.  Maybe once we get 10k fans down at the stadium and they make 100k pay cheques we can expect them to act like full time athletes.  But they are paid fudge all and expected to do a lot of work, and pull out a top skill performance every week.  They work their asses off but really we judge everything on 90 minutes, then get paid fudge all, and have to deal with the social media, the criticism (some fair and constrcutive, some nasty awful stuff) and somehow have to justify if they should be our escapsim so we can get away from our sharkty work weeks.

Poorly worded rant over.

Edit: missed a spot: also mental health comes in many flavours with many levels.  2 people can have anxiety and 1 can but up but the other person can be completely debilitated by it, even if they have the same job.  It's a physical condition and they may not have any bloody say.  And in context these players are far too young to have been given the opportunity to overcome it.

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Probably gonna piss everyone off but:

A useful thing to remember is that nobody really knows what life is like in the other shoes.  Whether that is blue collar complaining about white collar, white collar complaining about blue collar, farmers whining about city folk, and city folk whining about farmers.

When it comes to the above post I like most of the sentiment, but if you grew up in poverty, and you have been living hand to mouth for years and can be dealing with the long term consequences of a dumbe decision in your teens well into your 30s or longer.  And once you are in that loop getting out can be much harder.  Maybe you don't have the internet so don't know how to research learning new skills.  There are a substantial number of people that don't know how to help themselves, and don't know how to find out how.

As for mental health, there are a lot more who are embracing understandings of mental health and what not these days, but plenty that still don't.  I really stirggled to get through a whānau dinner recently where some cousins were moking the fact that John Kirwin was being soft about mental health and how he needed to toughen up.  These views will exist for a while.  My brother in law is a farmer and he took far too long to come to terms with his kid being autistic, instead opting to just say he was learning a bit differently and he will catch up.  He came around and has been fantastic with his sons needs for a long time.  He also finally recently admitted he believes in climate change (with the caveat that humans have no impact on it, small steps I guess).  So a lot of that still permeates through.

As for a post above, it really sharks me to say something to the effect of "It would be great if people could take care of their mental health, I wish every industry did it, but I don't get to, so these footballer shouldn't" is terrible.  Especially with so many of them being kids.  They need it more than many of us, and to suggest denying it because you need them playing a game for your escapsim is selfish at best.

And as for the situation of these you women taking time off for their mental health.  Please show a tiny fraction of empathy.  They get paid fudge all and we expect them to perform and train like pro's.  Speaking of making a slim personal profit margin being hard, these players who are your escapism aren't even making enough to survive.  

So show the players we love some support.  If they need more support they should bloody get.  Maybe once we get 10k fans down at the stadium and they make 100k pay cheques we can expect them to act like full time athletes.  But they are paid fudge all and expected to do a lot of work, and pull out a top skill performance every week.  They work their asses off but really we judge everything on 90 minutes, then get paid fudge all, and have to deal with the social media, the criticism (some fair and constrcutive, some nasty awful stuff) and somehow have to justify if they should be our escapsim so we can get away from our sharkty work weeks.

Poorly worded rant over.