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coochiee
Understand your views to a point Monto. Have a brother who is a self employed tradie (works huge hours) and my folks were stoic hard working farmers. For them you only take a day off, if you are near death.

I also worked for many years in both public (3 years at a Council) and private (15 odd years in banking) sectors - and would get really irritated for those small number of work mates who used to treat their sick leave as almost annual leave, and be continously absent. You just knew they were taking the piss, leaving you to work late having to pick up some of their work. Thank fudge those days are over.

But I also have both a close friend and my half sister, with daughters 17-19 who both suffer from severe anxiety. Absolutely crippling for both the young girls, and their families. Can't go to school (study online), basically barely leave the family homes. Not only them, but their families almost become prisoners. My step sister's daughter will suffer a panic attack, if she is alone in the house. The whole family have to adjust their daily routines to her. It can appear incredibly selfish, but it is a genuine mental illness.

Maybe Wisnewski needs a long break away from the game (seemed to work for Tratt from memory), or just concentrate on WahineNix, and forget about the Ferns for now. There will be other World Cups.

Oh & it's the self employed/blue collar world that needs to change, re the whole mental health awareness concepts - not the other way round. Times have changed.



Absolutely, agree with most of your points there. And the trades do need to change but that will never happen unless jobs stop being run on razor thin margins for those at the bottom. It genuinely was better when things were unionized.

Mental health a huge issue, especially for young people, and I don't begrudge anone that needs to leave a roll for that reason, however taking weeks and weeks off over a short season comes across as taking the piss to me. Probably time to say the job is not for you.

I don't know, sports is just a strange one to me. Even if the pays not great being a pro athlete has a lot of perks, I just find it a bit hard to find sympathy for them when I know so many people in far far worse situations. That's probably on me.

On second rhough, thats definitely on me.

You are basically saying same as my brother, tradies working incredibly hard, but operating on small margins, so questioning why do you do it. But what does a 40-50 yr old tradie do next, when you have a mortgage, family, and a body that's starting to feel it? Tough stage of life to make a change. Luckily my builder brother got into skylight installation here in QLD, 2 years ago, is loving it (easier on the body) and has great margins.

But remember the WahineNix girls are being paid bugger all. Almost doing it for the love of the game, and some hope can one day to crack it in the English WSL, American NWSL or wherever. 

Wisnewski has pulled out of the Ferns (where she was only a training player anyway), and done it early in this window. Minimal disruption to the Ferns in reality. Hopefully she is okay to keep playing for the Nix. If not then yes I think she needs a good long spell away, as not fair on the club and her team mates, coming & going. Wish her the best anyways.

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Monto
coochiee
Understand your views to a point Monto. Have a brother who is a self employed tradie (works huge hours) and my folks were stoic hard working farmers. For them you only take a day off, if you are near death.

I also worked for many years in both public (3 years at a Council) and private (15 odd years in banking) sectors - and would get really irritated for those small number of work mates who used to treat their sick leave as almost annual leave, and be continously absent. You just knew they were taking the piss, leaving you to work late having to pick up some of their work. Thank fudge those days are over.

But I also have both a close friend and my half sister, with daughters 17-19 who both suffer from severe anxiety. Absolutely crippling for both the young girls, and their families. Can't go to school (study online), basically barely leave the family homes. Not only them, but their families almost become prisoners. My step sister's daughter will suffer a panic attack, if she is alone in the house. The whole family have to adjust their daily routines to her. It can appear incredibly selfish, but it is a genuine mental illness.

Maybe Wisnewski needs a long break away from the game (seemed to work for Tratt from memory), or just concentrate on WahineNix, and forget about the Ferns for now. There will be other World Cups.

Oh & it's the self employed/blue collar world that needs to change, re the whole mental health awareness concepts - not the other way round. Times have changed.



Absolutely, agree with most of your points there. And the trades do need to change but that will never happen unless jobs stop being run on razor thin margins for those at the bottom. It genuinely was better when things were unionized.

Mental health a huge issue, especially for young people, and I don't begrudge anone that needs to leave a roll for that reason, however taking weeks and weeks off over a short season comes across as taking the piss to me. Probably time to say the job is not for you.

I don't know, sports is just a strange one to me. Even if the pays not great being a pro athlete has a lot of perks, I just find it a bit hard to find sympathy for them when I know so many people in far far worse situations. That's probably on me.

On second rhough, thats definitely on me.

You are basically saying same as my brother, tradies working incredibly hard, but operating on small margins, so questioning why do you do it. But what does a 40-50 yr old tradie do next, when you have a mortgage, family, and a body that's starting to feel it? Tough stage of life to make a change. Luckily my builder brother got into skylight installation here in QLD, 2 years ago, is loving it (easier on the body) and has great margins.

But remember the WahineNix girls are being paid bugger all. Almost doing it for the love of the game, and some hope can one day to crack it in the English WSL, American NWSL or wherever. 

Wisnewski has pulled out of the Ferns (where she was only a training player anyway), and done it early in thos window. Minimal disruption to the Ferns in reality. Hopefully she is okay to keep playing for the Nix. If not then yes I think she needs a good long spell away, as not fair on the club and her team mates, coming & going. Wish her the best anyways.

Unknown editor edited February 14, 2023 00:41
Monto
coochiee
Understand your views to a point Monto. Have a brother who is a self employed tradie (works huge hours) and my folks were stoic hard working farmers. For them you only take a day off, if you are near death.

I also worked for many years in both public (3 years at a Council) and private (15 odd years in banking) sectors - and would get really irritated for those small number of work mates who used to treat their sick leave as almost annual leave, and be continously absent. You just knew they were taking the piss, leaving you to work late having to pick up some of their work. Thank fudge those days are over.

But I also have both a close friend and my half sister, with daughters 17-19 who both suffer from severe anxiety. Absolutely crippling for both the young girls, and their families. Can't go to school (study online), basically barely leave the family homes. Not only them, but their families almost become prisoners. My step sister's daughter will suffer a panic attack, if she is alone in the house. The whole family have to adjust their daily routines to her. It can appear incredibly selfish, but it is a genuine mental illness.

Maybe Wisnewski needs a long break away from the game (seemed to work for Tratt from memory), or just concentrate on WahineNix, and forget about the Ferns for now. There will be other World Cups.

Oh & it's the self employed/blue collar world that needs to change, re the whole mental health awareness concepts - not the other way round. Times have changed.



Absolutely, agree with most of your points there. And the trades do need to change but that will never happen unless jobs stop being run on razor thin margins for those at the bottom. It genuinely was better when things were unionized.

Mental health a huge issue, especially for young people, and I don't begrudge anone that needs to leave a roll for that reason, however taking weeks and weeks off over a short season comes across as taking the piss to me. Probably time to say the job is not for you.

I don't know, sports is just a strange one to me. Even if the pays not great being a pro athlete has a lot of perks, I just find it a bit hard to find sympathy for them when I know so many people in far far worse situations. That's probably on me.

On second rhough, thats definitely on me.

You are basically saying same as my brother, tradies working incredibly hard, but operating on small margins, so questioning why do you do it.

But remember the WahineNix girls are being paid bugger all. Almost doing it for the love of the game, and some hope can one day to crack it in the English WSL, American NWSL or wherever. 

Wisnewski has pulled out of the Ferns (where she was only a training player anyway), and done it early in thos window. Minimal disruption to the Ferns in reality. Hopefully she is okay to keep playing for the Nix. If not then yes I think she needs a good long spell away, as not fair on the club and her team mates, coming & going. Wish her the best anyways.