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Ryan

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I think Monto is self employed? It's not just blue collar tradies (a huge number of whom are self employed), but most self employed who just can't take a break from their business, even if their mental health is poor. That's their reality

Then he shouldn't be comparing himself to someone who works as an employee.

Yipe but it's also their reality that they see alot of the stuff that the PAYG get up to as 'soft', and very detached from their world. Especially the big city, urban employed. Spend more than 5 mins in the company of a farmer, and you will know all about that.

That's their world, their mates are mostly in that world, they socialise in that world - that's often their viewpoint. I imagine it's world not many Nix supporters (being based in NZ's public service capital), belong to though.  

Even farmers are starting to be more open about their mental health, massive push over the last few years to be mindful of people in that industry and the pressures they face. Yet noones calling them soft for shedding a tear or having a moment when it all gets too much - the whole point that started this is simply that, we all have different levels of what is too much and an 18 year olds capacity is probably less that a 45 year old. There is no excuse no matter hwat industry you're in to ignore your own well being. If your employer isnt then they should be, if you're self-employed look after yourself first cos when the shark hits the fan you've only got yourself to rely on.

coochiee

Ryan

coochiee

I think Monto is self employed? It's not just blue collar tradies (a huge number of whom are self employed), but most self employed who just can't take a break from their business, even if their mental health is poor. That's their reality

Then he shouldn't be comparing himself to someone who works as an employee.

Yipe but it's also their reality that they see alot of the stuff that the PAYG get up to as 'soft', and very detached from their world. Especially the big city, urban employed. Spend more than 5 mins in the company of a farmer, and you will know all about that.

That's their world, their mates are mostly in that world, they socialise in that world - that's often their viewpoint. I imagine it's world not many Nix supporters (being based in NZ's public service capital), belong to though.  

Even farmers are starting to be more open about their mental health, massive push over the last few years to be mindful of people in that industry and the pressures they face. Yet noones calling them soft for shedding a tear or having a moment when it all gets too much - the whole point that started this is simply that, we all have different levels of what is too much and an 18 year olds capacity is probably less that a 45 year old. There is no excuse no matter hwat industry you're in to ignore your own well being. If your employer isnt then they should be, if you're self-employed look after yourself first cos whenj the shot hits the fan you've only got yourself to rely on.

coochiee

Ryan

coochiee

I think Monto is self employed? It's not just blue collar tradies (a huge number of whom are self employed), but most self employed who just can't take a break from their business, even if their mental health is poor. That's their reality

Then he shouldn't be comparing himself to someone who works as an employee.

Yipe but it's also their reality that they see alot of the stuff that the PAYG get up to as 'soft', and very detached from their world. Especially the big city, urban employed. Spend more than 5 mins in the company of a farmer, and you will know all about that.

That's their world, their mates are mostly in that world, they socialise in that world - that's often their viewpoint. I imagine it's world not many Nix supporters (being based in NZ's public service capital), belong to though.  

Even farmers are starting to be more open about their mental health, massive push over the last few years to be mindful of people in that industry and the pressures they face. Yet noones calling them soft for shedding a tear or having a moment when it all gets too much - the whole point that started this is simply that, we all have different levels of what is too much and an 18 year olds capacity is probably less that a 45 year old. There is no excuse no matter hwat industry you're in to ignore your own well being. If your employer isnt then they should be, if your're self-employed look after yourself first cos whenj the shot hits the fan you've only got yourself to rely on.

coochiee

Ryan

coochiee

I think Monto is self employed? It's not just blue collar tradies (a huge number of whom are self employed), but most self employed who just can't take a break from their business, even if their mental health is poor. That's their reality

Then he shouldn't be comparing himself to someone who works as an employee.

Yipe but it's also their reality that they see alot of the stuff that the PAYG get up to as 'soft', and very detached from their world. Especially the big city, urban employed. Spend more than 5 mins in the company of a farmer, and you will know all about that.

That's their world, their mates are mostly in that world, they socialise in that world - that's often their viewpoint. I imagine it's world not many Nix supporters (being based in NZ's public service capital), belong to though.  

Even farmers are starting to be more open about their mental health, massive push over the last few years to be midful of people in that industry and the pressures they face. Yet noones calling them soft for shedding a tear or having a moment when it all gets too much - the whole point that started this is simply that, we all have different levels of what is too much and an 18 year olds capacity is probably less that a 45 year old. There is no excuse no matter hwat industry you're in to ignore your own well being. If your employer isnt then they should be, if your're self-employed look after yourself first cos whenj the shot hits the fan you've only got yourself to rely on.