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New Zealand Men's U-20s
switched off for just a second in defence.
unlucky
Briiliant goal - well deserved. Their #18 has been brilliant tonight.
Good goal, but could've been prevented if the defender didnt jump and just fronted up to him
Good goal, but could've been prevented if the defender didnt jump and just fronted up to him
Which one?
Handball? What a load of shark
Pretty professional by Portugal in the end to be fair
Valiant effort, heads held up high, etc.
Respectable result. Obviously disappointing to give up the late goal but that was a lot closer than I expected
how bad is dyer how on earth was he out there?
Much better effort than I expected.I think the boys can hold their heads high after that effort,certainly a huge improvement on the USA game.
Yeah...Dyer was honestly the only huge question mark for me. Not sure why he was out there.
we should be proud
Dyer = Christie
#alignment
we should be proud
Im not
We look a bit tired now; if we want to win feel like we need to get it done before full time
Dont tell science we looked tired. Science says we are fit. Not tired
On paper tonight was a valiant effort for the boys and 2-1 is no disgrace against a a top top footballing nation.
Objectively I left the ground tonight frustrated (by NZ) and totally confused (by Portugal) who looked like they thought they had won the game when the second half started, sat off, didn't possess the ball and looked lazy Credit however to NZ who hung in the game and got the equalizer.
My frustrations lie in that the players in small spells showed they can play, circulated the ball across the back line and broke forward but are clearly directed to play direct which at international level is too obvious and one dimensional. Wether this is coming from Darren or Hudson I'm not a fan of this direction and where we are going with our footballing identity.
I don't want to be negative. Tonight was brave, full of courage, lots of heart...what we are already known for. We need to be intelligent on the field, structured, and thinkers.
we should be proud
I am. I even thought for periods of the game we were exerting significant pressure and control (especially second half).
I think Blake is a proper footballer. Just need to find a position for him and develop in it. He turned defence into attack half a dozen times in that game. I'd love to see him also given some development as a ball playing defender (although he does love to rush out and intercept passes).
I hope that is a wake up call for Portugal. I like them as a team and want them to kick on.
My hope for the game was we would try and play , not park the bus, and whatever the result we would be able to hold our heads high.
Our performance far exceeded my expectations. We played easily our best game with decent periods of nice football against one of the top teams in the world.
Really quite a remarkable performance.
Yeah...Dyer was honestly the only huge question mark for me. Not sure why he was out there.
Dyer was crap. The only positive is that he will still be in the squad in two years time.
Yeah...Dyer was honestly the only huge question mark for me. Not sure why he was out there.
Dyer was crap. The only positive is that he will still be in the squad in two years time.
positive?
Considering the performances against Ukraine, Myanmar and now Portugal - which were all somewhere between good and excellent, the game against the U.S. A. is perplexing.
I was there and although 4-0 was not entirely fair, we were definitely second best.
But there are some promising boys in there so there's hope for the future.
To Bazza's credit I think we got our shape right. Blake had a storming game and was very composed.based on what I have seen I would hope he makes the first team squad at the Nix. Tuiloma played superbly and I think his performance and confidence rubbed off. Patterson played a good number 10 role and was making some intelligent decisions.
The biggest highlight was the midfielders and forwards showing for the ball. It is great to see players "want the ball". The guys played with structure and good triangles up to the front third. We lacked a striker and number 9 who could complete the transition however.
I have been very critical of the style of play and questioned the alignment to the senior side but if that is how the guys are going to play then I am behind it.
The only dissapointment was Dyer- considering the guy has a full international cap he was a let down. Reminded me of watching the Warriors- just too many head in hands moments when you question his football acumen. Clearly athletic but to play the 8 role you need to make smart decisions.
Considering the performances against Ukraine, Myanmar and now Portugal - which were all somewhere between good and excellent, the game against the U.S. A. is perplexing.
I was there and although 4-0 was not entirely fair, we were definitely second best.
Based on what I watched from the US they are incredibly structured and organised, no real flair. This means no real errors or vulnerabilities. I think to break down a side like that you need that one player like a Marco or Costa who has that trickery. I don't think we have that player in this squad (not that the players we have are bad, just that we don't have that one moment of individual brilliance player) which would cause them to feel pressured.
Last night the US got to park a bus after they scored but prior to that looked vulberable to the touches of the Colombians. Without that player they didn't have any fear or threat so overran us.
I also thing the scare they got from Myanmar didn't help us. If we had run into them first before they had a chance to expose their own weaknesses I think that game would have been closer... however a later game against Ukraine may have had the same result for us as the US game.
Considering the performances against Ukraine, Myanmar and now Portugal - which were all somewhere between good and excellent, the game against the U.S. A. is perplexing.
I was there and although 4-0 was not entirely fair, we were definitely second best.
Based on what I watched from the US they are incredibly structured and organised, no real flair. This means no real errors or vulnerabilities. I think to break down a side like that you need that one player like a Marco or Costa who has that trickery. I don't think we have that player in this squad (not that the players we have are bad, just that we don't have that one moment of individual brilliance player) which would cause them to feel pressured.
Last night the US got to park a bus after they scored but prior to that looked vulberable to the touches of the Colombians. Without that player they didn't have any fear or threat so overran us.
I also thing the scare they got from Myanmar didn't help us. If we had run into them first before they had a chance to expose their own weaknesses I think that game would have been closer... however a later game against Ukraine may have had the same result for us as the US game.
To me, that player looks like Dyer, and I'm guessing that is why he played every game.
Yes, he gives the ball away plenty, but that is often because he is trying to beat players or make things happen. Outside of Tuiloma I think he has the most potential in the team and remember, he is only just turned 18.
It is a part of today's football, glad they do it. I hear that the Germans testing a system that prevents cramps. Science is cool, science helps to win.
I know its just a fluffy press release, but the fact they are making a big deal out of it is a little embarrassing.
It is news to a lot of people, who still thinks with the right attitude and fighting spirit you can win everything. Which is non-sense. And, yes, I agree with you it very fluffy, press release and that NZ Football is unbelievable un-professional.
To me, that player looks like Dyer, and I'm guessing that is why he played every game.
Yes, he gives the ball away plenty, but that is often because he is trying to beat players or make things happen. Outside of Tuiloma I think he has the most potential in the team and remember, he is only just turned 18.
I have not seen anything from this tournament or with Wanderers to support that. Hope I'm wrong.
So we seemed to look much better from about the 55th minute onwards, which coincided with the points where Rufer was subbed off. Couldn't quite tell if that sub was actually the reason we looked better from the ground though. Was there a tactical shift that came with the sub that made the desired impact?
Considering the performances against Ukraine, Myanmar and now Portugal - which were all somewhere between good and excellent, the game against the U.S. A. is perplexing.
I was there and although 4-0 was not entirely fair, we were definitely second best.
Based on what I watched from the US they are incredibly structured and organised, no real flair. This means no real errors or vulnerabilities. I think to break down a side like that you need that one player like a Marco or Costa who has that trickery. I don't think we have that player in this squad (not that the players we have are bad, just that we don't have that one moment of individual brilliance player) which would cause them to feel pressured.
Last night the US got to park a bus after they scored but prior to that looked vulberable to the touches of the Colombians. Without that player they didn't have any fear or threat so overran us.
I also thing the scare they got from Myanmar didn't help us. If we had run into them first before they had a chance to expose their own weaknesses I think that game would have been closer... however a later game against Ukraine may have had the same result for us as the US game.
To me, that player looks like Dyer, and I'm guessing that is why he played every game.
Yes, he gives the ball away plenty, but that is often because he is trying to beat players or make things happen. Outside of Tuiloma I think he has the most potential in the team and remember, he is only just turned 18.
Agree. Outside Bill, for potential it's Dyer, Patterson & Brotherton for me. Maybe Blake if he cares.
What impressed me the most last night was that "I dared to believe" and was gutted when a very good goal was scored. Structure was good, effort was immense and there were quite a few bright spots.
What impressed me the most last night was that "I dared to believe" and was gutted when a very good goal was scored. Structure was good, effort was immense and there were quite a few bright spots.
Shame it took 2 years to get there though.
Croud for NZ v Portugal: 10,429 acc to Fifa website.
I thorougly enjoyed that performance by us last night. The future looks brighter than ever right now. Brotherton is outstanding, a great AW in the making. Tuiloma was fantastic as expected, Blake really showed what he's got and Wynne looks the business. And we've got a couple of very decent young keepers coming through. Only question mark would be Dyer (like many on here it seems) who might grow into a very good player but isn't at the races right now. If you want to keep the ball when you've got it you need players who can keep the ball, funnily enough.
What should not be forgotten is that based on history, only two maybe three of this side will progress to be regular members of the Senior side.
Big half page photo of Patrick,dave(?) and 2nd best in the waikato times if anyone has seen it. Oddly enough I then couldn't find any mention of the match in the paper....
Big half page photo of Patrick,dave(?) and 2nd best in the waikato times if anyone has seen it. Oddly enough I then couldn't find any mention of the match in the paper....
Fudge this shark. I got cut AGAIN?!
Big half page photo of Patrick,dave(?) and 2nd best in the waikato times if anyone has seen it. Oddly enough I then couldn't find any mention of the match in the paper.... [/quote]
The media know which faces sell the papers...
Fudge this shark. I got cut AGAIN?!
What should not be forgotten is that based on history, only two maybe three of this side will progress to be regular members of the Senior side.
Who do you think?
Cory Brown looked promising. I think Billingsley could if he gets in the right system. Man-bun keeper looked decent, as does Sail.
Feel like Rufer really needs to find his position at the Nix or leave soon to progress, same with Ridenton.
I still rate Wynne, he was good from what I saw against Portugal.
So where and when is the All Whites Plate Semi Final being held?
What should not be forgotten is that based on history, only two maybe three of this side will progress to be regular members of the Senior side.
Who do you think?
Cory Brown looked promising. I think Billingsley could if he gets in the right system. Man-bun keeper looked decent, as does Sail.
Feel like Rufer really needs to find his position at the Nix or leave soon to progress, same with Ridenton.
I still rate Wynne, he was good from what I saw against Portugal.