ATTN Bruce Holloway: Arsenal does in fact have a women's team, as do several other EPL clubs, although strangely not Man U. You don't hear about them because the media are sexist pigs.
Coverage of the women's game is hugely better in the UK than it is here.
Hi Doloras,
You are not Doloras Edge by any chance, are you?
I must admit I was only grabbing at random well-known clubs in my column in trying to make a broader point (that it is hard to be all things to all people).
I imagine the symbiotic relationship between football and media is influenced by all sorts of subjective factors.
Hope this helps.
For everyone else trying to make sense of this, the following link may help...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/football-soccer/news/art...
... "farrago"..."THIS" for that.
that was a good read bruce, cheers
ATTN Bruce Holloway: Arsenal does in fact have a women's team, as do several other EPL clubs, although strangely not Man U. You don't hear about them because the media are sexist pigs.
BT Sport and BBC have shown women's club games on TV already this season here in the UK and the WWC was big news here with loads of games shown at prime time by the Beeb.
decent massive pdf doc that has just been flicked out to all clubs from NZF reviewing the review
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/nzf-set-national-leagu...
Competitions Review 2015 – Key features
– Maximum of 10 two-year licences to be issued before December 2015 to cover 2016-17 & 2017-18 seasons
– Winter clubs from top leagues around New Zealand able to express interest for summer league
– Licenses only granted to clubs with national and youth league teams initially
– Applicants must meet set criteria in line with OFC and FIFA standards
– One season, 10-team, 30-round open competition the ultimate aim in 2018-19
I think our player and financial base is too thin to have a club based competition with promotion and relegation etc. It would totally undermine the youth systems at clubs if the first teams were just made up by mercenaries who went from club to club to play in the national league for a few bucks. So we either have 8 franchises that are better linked to clubs or just 8 clubs themselves.
I think they should stick with the franchises- they have some history now and some credibility thanks to ACFC's recent exploits. The A League has shown that a franchise model can work.
The discussion about this is not about who participates (ie club or franchises) as the product will be exactly the same under both (as players will be the same).
The discussion should be about how we make the product more relevant and engage with the wider public. To do this the league needs to be more visible and smartly promoted. This will ensure sponsors get on board.
One issue with pushing for a televised league and fighting for credibility is whether you can still have the Wanderers and Wee Nix teams in the league. I think having them has obviously helped the U20s etc but if you are serious about having a National League you can't include these teams.
I "thised" this but disagree with your view on the WeeNix. I think them being in the competition strengthens its public awareness and helps benefit all NZ football. Glad to see the back of the Wanderers though.
So OK to have an Australian Reserve side in there that changes every week and who ask the opposition who they can play against them and can have non NZ eligible players, But not a team full of young NZ eligible players preparing for World Cups??
Gotta love you Phoenix fans.......
Every team can have non NZ eligible players in them.
Really? So how many Wanderers SC players were'nt eligible for NZ?
This was such a prescient post
2018
What I got was that because they couldn't find a consensus on which season the league should be played in they'll be sticking with summer. so 2018
I've asked elsewhere who might be seen as early runners from current regional premiership teams to singly or jointly apply for a National spot next year. North Harbour (Glenfield/Birko/Forrest Hill/NSU)? Nelson? Manawatu? Will Waitak U hold together or might the various clubs prefer to form new alliances?
So it will be clubs AND regional teams together?
So it will be clubs AND regional teams together?
That's the idea, so it could happen. Be interesting to see what happens in Chch/Mainland. Surely Nelson would be keen Luis? They're already travelling every second week why not do it around the country against the best?
More likely to see a regional bid out of Nelson, like the Falcons.
More likely to see a regional bid out of Nelson, like the Falcons.
Can they afford two teams - senior and youth?
More likely to see a regional bid out of Nelson, like the Falcons.
Can they afford two teams - senior and youth?
They bid for both teams twice, so I would think they can
Well if they don't have a senior team then you can wave goodbye to the youth team too because NZ Football said each club must have both
More likely to see a regional bid out of Nelson, like the Falcons.
Can they afford two teams - senior and youth?
Rapa Raptors. You heard it here first.
Well if they don't have a senior team then you can wave goodbye to the youth team too because NZ Football said each club must have both
did they?
Licenses only granted to clubs with national and youth league teams initially
Licenses only granted to clubs with national and youth league teams initially
might have said that Nat Lge licences will only be given to teams with youth teams?
This was from the release:
A requirement of the first two-year license period will be that each club also fields a team in a second tier U-19 competition to act as the feeder towards the top competition.
So if they're both 10-team leagues..
This was from the release:
A requirement of the first two-year license period will be that each club also fields a team in a second tier U-19 competition to act as the feeder towards the top competition.
So if they're both 10-team leagues..
Does it say youth is ten team?
If each team in the seniors league has to have a youth team, then that's 10 teams, innit.
This was from the release:
A requirement of the first two-year license period will be that each club also fields a team in a second tier U-19 competition to act as the feeder towards the top competition.
So if they're both 10-team leagues..
Does it say youth is ten team?
From the FAQ section on the same release.
Previously NZF has granted Licenses to Clubs to compete in the NYL only – will this continue? NZF issued NYL only Licenses to four Clubs in 2013. For the 2016/17 and 2017/18 period we will only be issuing Licenses to Clubs that compete in both the Premiership and NYL
This roadmap table infers a club would need to be working towards a youth, womens and futsal teams (mens & womens presumably).
This was from the release:
A requirement of the first two-year license period will be that each club also fields a team in a second tier U-19 competition to act as the feeder towards the top competition.
So if they're both 10-team leagues..
Does it say youth is ten team?
From the FAQ section on the same release.
Previously NZF has granted Licenses to Clubs to compete in the NYL only – will this continue? NZF issued NYL only Licenses to four Clubs in 2013. For the 2016/17 and 2017/18 period we will only be issuing Licenses to Clubs that compete in both the Premiership and NYL
Ah
Mark Johnston (Nelson Falcons Coach & Nelson Suburbs player) calling for Regional bid for Nelson
Hope they do, definitely the interest there, can see that from the crouds that the Falcons attract in the Youth League
i think a few franchises going to disapear
This roadmap table infers a club would need to be working towards a youth, womens and futsal teams (mens & womens presumably).
I wonder if this is like the list of requirements of ASBP clubs that was circulated and agreed when those clubs started.
And then hastily discarded when nobody bothered.
This roadmap table infers a club would need to be working towards a youth, womens and futsal teams (mens & womens presumably).
I wonder if this is like the list of requirements of ASBP clubs that was circulated and agreed when those clubs started.
And then hastily discarded when nobody bothered.
"Yeah definitely!"
i think a few franchises going to disapear
I think we will see more clubs from Auckland and Wellington, then regional teams everywhere else. Would Central really replace Auckland City though? Will be interesting.
I wonder how they will decide who will participate. Example, what if a strong bid comes in from a club from Auckland and City and Waitakere also make strong bids. do they include the 3rd Auckland team and not accept a lesser bid from somewhere like.... Hawke's Bay? Is anything written to keep a geographic balance or is it everyone for themselves?
Would Napier City Rovers be keen to step in over Hawke's Bay?
Not sure, have been out of the loop for the last couple of years, others will have more idea than me.
Would Napier City Rovers be keen to step in over Hawke's Bay?
Would Napier City Rovers be keen to step in over Hawke's Bay?
It's a mess isn't it. Personally I'd like to see it stay as franchises.
Why?
Look what has happened to so many historic football clubs chasing after glory: Waikato United, Hamilton AFC, Mt Wellington, Gisborne, North Shore United, Manawatu AFC, Mount Maunganui etc. All big names that have amalgamated/disappeared/become shadows of their former selves; due to league changes (Waikato United), cost of chasing glory (Mount Maunganui) etc.
I'd rather keep our current model but align the Youth and Women's football with each franchise (drop footsal though).
For football in NZ, the American franchise model is the most sustainable long term where they have the MLS as the top teir with franchises. Proper clubs then play in the lower tiers.
