Things that make you go hmmmm

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LG
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Face it, it is the Greens are just trying to grab the beneficiary vote. 

I'm very disappointed if they do away with the drug testing. Surely if you are on a benefit your priorities should not be booze, smokes nor drugs. It should be shelter and food. 

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And as for the draconian requirement that people on A job seekers benefit make themselves available to actually look for work.... pfffffft

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Face it, it is the Greens are just trying to grab the beneficiary vote. 

I'm very disappointed if they do away with the drug testing. Surely if you are on a benefit your priorities should not be booze, smokes nor drugs. It should be shelter and food. 

Fail rate of 1.4 percent. Hardly a problem. Might even be lower than the general public. 

http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/325553/ten...

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sthn.jeff wrote:

And as for the draconian requirement that people on A job seekers benefit make themselves available to actually look for work.... pfffffft

It's actually removing the financial punishment for not meeting requirement. Because, you know, taking money off people struggling to make ends meet, probably doesn't help much.

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Anyway we should probably have a Elections thread.

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drug testing is fair enough if you are using drugs before going to or during work, but if you are just sitting in the lounge at home after work in the evening having a quiet puff i do not really agree with it. someone else can go home drink large amounts of alcohol and still be over the legal drink driving limit the next day and go to work with no testing at all. people hung over at work can be more dangerous than someone who puffs on a joint 10 hours before they go to work.

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2ndBest wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

And as for the draconian requirement that people on A job seekers benefit make themselves available to actually look for work.... pfffffft

It's actually removing the financial punishment for not meeting requirement. Because, you know, taking money off people struggling to make ends meet, probably doesn't help much.

it stops people taking the piss. And they will

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Lonegunmen wrote:

The new Dr WHO - It's now politically correct...as a commentater said on Stuff, Male Dr's could be old and craggy but a female Dr is a stunner.

She was in Broadchurch which was very good. A fine actress if her performance in that is indicative of her work. 

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Lonegunmen wrote:

That really Phil Collins?

His back is shot as well, hasn't been able to play drums for a few years. Must be very tough psychologically to lose the physical ability to play yor instrument of choice.

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Those bloody rumble strips hmmmmmmmmmmmm

LG
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Hmmmm, Rugby Final in South Africa, featuring a South African Team and featuring a South African Referee. So it's 15 V 16 at the kick off. That's fair.........

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Hmmmm, Rugby Final in South Africa, featuring a South African Team and featuring a South African Referee. So it's 15 V 16 at the kick off. That's fair.........

Not to mention the Crusaders being reduced to 14 men at a crucial time

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Lonegunmen wrote:

Hmmmm, Rugby Final in South Africa, featuring a South African Team and featuring a South African Referee. So it's 15 V 16 at the kick off. That's fair.........

Not to mention the Crusaders being reduced to 14 men at a crucial time

Last year the final was here with a kiwi ref so can't complain.

LG
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My 6 year old answered the phone and a foreign man asked to speak to my wife, she got on the phone and he says to her that their is a problem with our computer. My wife says to him, "You realise you have rung a Police Woman's place?". His response was "Oh Fudge" and hung up. Damn, I wish I had been there.

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They called up my girlfriend the other day, she said "I'll just go and turn on my computer." and then just left the phone off the hook for twenty minutes until they finally hung up.

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Good job by her. The longer they're on the phone with you, the fewer people they're going to rip off. 

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Tegal wrote:

Good job by her. The longer they're on the phone with you, the fewer people they're going to rip off. 

Yep, if I have time and nothing else on i'll play dumb till they get frustrated.

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''Wood's growth on display.''

Latest stuff sport football headline.

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YF splinter group?

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holeinone wrote:

drug testing is fair enough if you are using drugs before going to or during work, but if you are just sitting in the lounge at home after work in the evening having a quiet puff i do not really agree with it. someone else can go home drink large amounts of alcohol and still be over the legal drink driving limit the next day and go to work with no testing at all. people hung over at work can be more dangerous than someone who puffs on a joint 10 hours before they go to work.

hmmm 

An Evidence Based Review of Acute and Long-Term Effects of Cannabis Use on Executive Cognitive Functions

 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ 

LG
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If unemployed how can you afford to buy cannabis or the seeds to grow it with??

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Bagseed from a friend? I suppose you're talking about someone that you know.

A friend of mine is an unemployed pothead - only unemployed because of random drug tests I might add, not for any other reason.  He walked everywhere, grew most of his own food, cooked on a camp oven to save power, etc. that's how.

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Ryan wrote:

Bagseed from a friend? I suppose you're talking about someone that you know.

A friend of mine is an unemployed pothead - only unemployed because of random drug tests I might add, not for any other reason.  He walked everywhere, grew most of his own food, cooked on a camp oven to save power, etc. that's how.

Didn't spend money on deodorant, soap etc...

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Question:

When Jacinda Ardern says she's ready does that mean the rest of New Zealand are waiting impatiently in the car for 20mins while she fudges around doing unneccessary jobs inside before leaving the house?

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The assumption that because you are unemployed you are without financial means.

Hmm...

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dairyflat wrote:

The assumption that because you are unemployed you are without financial means.

Hmm...

Most drug dealers would probably refute that.
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C-Diddy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Bagseed from a friend? I suppose you're talking about someone that you know.

A friend of mine is an unemployed pothead - only unemployed because of random drug tests I might add, not for any other reason.  He walked everywhere, grew most of his own food, cooked on a camp oven to save power, etc. that's how.

Didn't spend money on deodorant, soap etc...

Isn't it fun to have baseless negative stereotypes? 

People who are unemployed are not dirty or smelly.

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ForteanTimes wrote:

holeinone wrote:

drug testing is fair enough if you are using drugs before going to or during work, but if you are just sitting in the lounge at home after work in the evening having a quiet puff i do not really agree with it. someone else can go home drink large amounts of alcohol and still be over the legal drink driving limit the next day and go to work with no testing at all. people hung over at work can be more dangerous than someone who puffs on a joint 10 hours before they go to work.

hmmm 

An Evidence Based Review of Acute and Long-Term Effects of Cannabis Use on Executive Cognitive Functions

 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ 

Seeing as he was saying it's a double standard with alcohol -

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa53.htm

"Even mild-to-moderate drinking can adversely affect cognitive functioning"

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ForteanTimes wrote:

holeinone wrote:

drug testing is fair enough if you are using drugs before going to or during work, but if you are just sitting in the lounge at home after work in the evening having a quiet puff i do not really agree with it. someone else can go home drink large amounts of alcohol and still be over the legal drink driving limit the next day and go to work with no testing at all. people hung over at work can be more dangerous than someone who puffs on a joint 10 hours before they go to work.

hmmm 

An Evidence Based Review of Acute and Long-Term Effects of Cannabis Use on Executive Cognitive Functions

 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ 

Seeing as he was saying it's a double standard with alcohol -

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa53.htm

"Even mild-to-moderate drinking can adversely affect cognitive functioning"

ahhh the classic "but alcohol" response

And btw random drug testing in a work environment includes  testing for alcohol.

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Ryan wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Bagseed from a friend? I suppose you're talking about someone that you know.

A friend of mine is an unemployed pothead - only unemployed because of random drug tests I might add, not for any other reason.  He walked everywhere, grew most of his own food, cooked on a camp oven to save power, etc. that's how.

Didn't spend money on deodorant, soap etc...

Isn't it fun to have baseless negative stereotypes? 

People who are unemployed are not dirty or smelly.

at 4.6 unemployment rate , that is now basically full employment in NZ.  Drawing from long term unemployed is now dipping into the unemployable
Marquee
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sthn.jeff wrote:

ForteanTimes wrote:

holeinone wrote:

drug testing is fair enough if you are using drugs before going to or during work, but if you are just sitting in the lounge at home after work in the evening having a quiet puff i do not really agree with it. someone else can go home drink large amounts of alcohol and still be over the legal drink driving limit the next day and go to work with no testing at all. people hung over at work can be more dangerous than someone who puffs on a joint 10 hours before they go to work.

hmmm 

An Evidence Based Review of Acute and Long-Term Effects of Cannabis Use on Executive Cognitive Functions

 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3037578/ 

Seeing as he was saying it's a double standard with alcohol -

https://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/aa53.htm

"Even mild-to-moderate drinking can adversely affect cognitive functioning"

ahhh the classic "but alcohol" response

Yeah, it's ridiculous to want a fair, reasonable, and evidence-based legal system. 
Marquee
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Funny how conservatives don't like government intervention (unless it's corporate socialism) because it's "communism" but don't want to give people freedoms when it doesn't suit them.

Hypocrisy 101

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Ryan wrote:

Funny how conservatives don't like government intervention (unless it's corporate socialism) because it's "communism" but don't want to give people freedoms when it doesn't suit them.

Hypocrisy 101

where did I say anything against Canabis reform ? I am tired of the sad old but alcohol is worse argument.  That is a given. Alcohol would not be introduced if it were new.

Personally I don't give a flying fudge if you root your brain on grog or weed as long as your doing so  does not effect me.

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Then why bother posting about it?

Cannabis used in moderation is probably no worse than heading a ball every weekend.

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It is called discussion.

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sthn.jeff wrote:

Ryan wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Bagseed from a friend? I suppose you're talking about someone that you know.

A friend of mine is an unemployed pothead - only unemployed because of random drug tests I might add, not for any other reason.  He walked everywhere, grew most of his own food, cooked on a camp oven to save power, etc. that's how.

Didn't spend money on deodorant, soap etc...

Isn't it fun to have baseless negative stereotypes? 

People who are unemployed are not dirty or smelly.

at 4.6 unemployment rate , that is now basically full employment in NZ.  Drawing from long term unemployed is now dipping into the unemployable

There is no way 4.6% can be considered full employment 

And that's without the shameful level of casualised non-unionised slaves

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foal30 wrote:

sthn.jeff wrote:

Ryan wrote:

C-Diddy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

Bagseed from a friend? I suppose you're talking about someone that you know.

A friend of mine is an unemployed pothead - only unemployed because of random drug tests I might add, not for any other reason.  He walked everywhere, grew most of his own food, cooked on a camp oven to save power, etc. that's how.

Didn't spend money on deodorant, soap etc...

Isn't it fun to have baseless negative stereotypes? 

People who are unemployed are not dirty or smelly.

at 4.6 unemployment rate , that is now basically full employment in NZ.  Drawing from long term unemployed is now dipping into the unemployable

There is no way 4.6% can be considered full employment 

And that's without the shameful level of casualised non-unionised slaves

have you tried employing someone from the ranks of the long term unemployed recently ?
Marquee
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No but I did argue for 25 years about why having long termed unemployed (the unemployable) is economic and social madness.

I take no pride in being proven right but I would think those whose claim to hold Personal Responsibility as a credo to now uphold. 

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Before the global recession our unemployment rate was 3.3 per cent, so there is some way to go until so called full employment (if we actually had it then which is debatable)

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Things that make you go hmmmm