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Jag wrote:

patrick478 wrote:

I do find it weird that the minimum suspension for spitting at a ref is twice as long as for assaulting a ref. That seems a bit backwards to me.

(and to be fair, I've probably deserved to be assaulted after some of the shark games I've had in the middle hah)

I'm guessing the lower minimum might be because assault could cover anything from a slight push to being whacked with a baseball bat, whereas spitting at a ref is spitting at a ref.

This is a very good point. I was considering assault to be a punch or worse, but you're right.
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Things might have changed since, but in my brief spell as a law student we were taught that spitting at someone WAS assault under NZ law. Assault meant making someone afraid of a physical attack, not the attack itself (battery).

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If you spat at someone when you knew you had a deadly disease, say ebola, and then they contracted it and died it could even be murder. If you spat at several members of a minority in order to spread ebola and destroy their group in whole or in part, it could be genocide. 

A 12 month ban from football for genocide seems like a slap with a wet bus ticket.

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There is one particular club in Auckland women's lower-grade football who have been infamous over the last few years for the old verbals. I don't want to get into details, we're not talking racial or homophobic abuse, but the kind of nasty niggly talk which would get you cards in competitive football, if not a punch in the face.

I've played this club twice over 5 years, different players, still the same unbelievable nastiness. It must be part of the club culture. But then you're in a catch-22, because if you make a formal complaint then (a) probably nothing will be done about it, because only racist/homophobic speech and swearing is barred to my knowledge; (b) they'll just know it works and keep doing it.

I'm sure it's a problem in other leagues as well.

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Doloras wrote:

There is one particular club in Auckland women's lower-grade football who have been infamous over the last few years for the old verbals. I don't want to get into details, we're not talking racial or homophobic abuse, but the kind of nasty niggly talk which would get you cards in competitive football, if not a punch in the face.

I've played this club twice over 5 years, different players, still the same unbelievable nastiness. It must be part of the club culture. But then you're in a catch-22, because if you make a formal complaint then (a) probably nothing will be done about it, because only racist/homophobic speech and swearing is barred to my knowledge; (b) they'll just know it works and keep doing it.

I'm sure it's a problem in other leagues as well.

That sort of culture is difficult to counter. When I've met it on the field I usually try and use humour to defuse it, but it is easy to get drawn in and fight crap with crap.

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Doloras wrote:

There is one particular club in Auckland women's lower-grade football who have been infamous over the last few years for the old verbals. I don't want to get into details, we're not talking racial or homophobic abuse, but the kind of nasty niggly talk which would get you cards in competitive football, if not a punch in the face.

I've played this club twice over 5 years, different players, still the same unbelievable nastiness. It must be part of the club culture. But then you're in a catch-22, because if you make a formal complaint then (a) probably nothing will be done about it, because only racist/homophobic speech and swearing is barred to my knowledge; (b) they'll just know it works and keep doing it.

I'm sure it's a problem in other leagues as well.

It's even worse when you play them at home.

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chopah wrote:

[quote=Doloras]

It's even worse when you play them at home.

Yeah, I think I might make myself unavailable for the return fixture.

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someone just told me about a Sunday League game their son was involved in yesterday. Completely kicked off t Ascot Park with head locks, kick to the head, flying kicks, concussions, chases, full bench and supporters storming the pitch, game abandoned. Sounds like one of those Thai fifth division games where is all goes nuts!

Along with the defaults that seems to be common place - maybe a reason to stick to CF comps and not Sunday League

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I've played a few Sunday league games over the year and unfortunately it's always one of two teams that spoil it for the rest, as with any other competition. Looking at the schedule for yesterday I'm going to take a guess and say it was V-Well FC and from their previous history, I'd say that's them 100% gone from the competition.

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ChopperNZ wrote:

I've played a few Sunday league games over the year and unfortunately it's always one of two teams that spoil it for the rest, as with any other competition. Looking at the schedule for yesterday I'm going to take a guess and say it was V-Well FC and from their previous history, I'd say that's them 100% gone from the competition.

maybe a police charge too

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Doloras wrote:

There is one particular club in Auckland women's lower-grade football who have been infamous over the last few years for the old verbals. ..

I am informed that, a couple of weekends ago, this team actually got into a fistfight on the field and an official complaint has been registered.

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ChopperNZ wrote:

I've played a few Sunday league games over the year and unfortunately it's always one of two teams that spoil it for the rest, as with any other competition. Looking at the schedule for yesterday I'm going to take a guess and say it was V-Well FC and from their previous history, I'd say that's them 100% gone from the competition.

Same people who keep returning under a different name.

The ASFA is plagued by a few teams made-up and run by people who simply lack basic adult skills like self control and reason.

How they even have the management skills to put a team together and enter it into the competition on time is beyond me.

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chopah wrote:

Doloras wrote:

There is one particular club in Auckland women's lower-grade football who have been infamous over the last few years for the old verbals. I don't want to get into details, we're not talking racial or homophobic abuse, but the kind of nasty niggly talk which would get you cards in competitive football, if not a punch in the face.

I've played this club twice over 5 years, different players, still the same unbelievable nastiness. It must be part of the club culture. But then you're in a catch-22, because if you make a formal complaint then (a) probably nothing will be done about it, because only racist/homophobic speech and swearing is barred to my knowledge; (b) they'll just know it works and keep doing it.

I'm sure it's a problem in other leagues as well.

It's even worse when you play them at home.

We played them at home today. And one of them referred to one of our players of Polynesian extraction as a "golliwog".


I was very angry at the rest of my team for refusing to protest by boycotting the aftermatch. But racism is a whole different level from the general level of "verbals". I know, I'm a troublemaker.

I would hope that the formal complaint would show something, but apparently we never got around to putting the formal complaint in after the home fixture. Oh, and the ref was dating one of their players, apparently.

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