Anyone got the downlow on all the changes afoot? I've heard rumours but thought I would come to the horse's mouth that is Yellow Fever.
Christchurch United Pride apparently.
Mainland Premier League
I've heard that the new rules limit any team to a maximum of 5 players who are not NZ citizens as opposed to not NZ residents. Anyone out there that can verify that. Could have a major impact on clubs like Cash Tech.
I've heard that the new rules limit any team to a maximum of 5 players who are not NZ citizens as opposed to not NZ residents. Anyone out there that can verify that. Could have a major impact on clubs like Cash Tech.
This very much is true. However Cash tech and a few of the bigger Auckland clubs are talking to NZ Football about getting rid of this rule or at the very least delaying it by a season.
I've heard that the new rules limit any team to a maximum of 5 players who are not NZ citizens as opposed to not NZ residents. Anyone out there that can verify that. Could have a major impact on clubs like Cash Tech.
This very much is true. However Cash tech and a few of the bigger Auckland clubs are talking to NZ Football about getting rid of this rule or at the very least delaying it by a season.
Not just the clubs you mention but all around NZ I understand, also not 'about getting rid of this rule...' more about amending it to take into to account for existing players that may been in residing in NZ for a many of years. Surely the intent of the rule is to stop clubs flooding the league by bringing in 'new' non NZ residents into the country (not that can happen at the moment or any time soon. Many of the non NZ residents players currently playing in the top leagues have been for years and may be lost to clubs all together if they are not allowed to play at the top level, many are coaching at junior levels.
More of a concern is about what clubs will be required to do in coming season(s), 'B' Licence holder for their coach - not many 'B' Licence holders standing around on the side lines and how quickly can 'B' Licence me gained and how many spots are available in the next season or two - so likely may have to be come in from outside NZ - so a club can have a non NZ resident coach but not players.
Even more costs going to put on to clubs, which will put real pressure on clubs wishing to play in the top league(s) our try and qualify for the top league(s) in these Covid times.
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I've heard that the new rules limit any team to a maximum of 5 players who are not NZ citizens as opposed to not NZ residents. Anyone out there that can verify that. Could have a major impact on clubs like Cash Tech.
This very much is true. However Cash tech and a few of the bigger Auckland clubs are talking to NZ Football about getting rid of this rule or at the very least delaying it by a season.
Not just the clubs you mention but all around NZ I understand, also not 'about getting rid of this rule...' more about amending it to take into to account for existing players that may been in residing in NZ for a many of years. Surely the intent of the rule is to stop clubs flooding the league by bringing in 'new' non NZ residents into the country (not that can happen at the moment or any time soon. Many of the non NZ residents players currently playing in the top leagues have been for years and may be lost to clubs all together if they are not allowed to play at the top level, many are coaching at junior levels.
Isn’t the non resident rule about non residents taking up spaces of players who can actually play for NZ?? If you are going to include an u20 rule to develop younger players for NZ the surely you have to enforce the non resident rule. Don’t get me wrong I think both rules are stupid but if your going to enforce one stupid rule then you have to enforce them all. I just wish they were as harsh on the player payment rules.
All of these new rules, regulations and the competition format as a whole mean that this will be the most interesting MPL season in a long time. Clubs are going to have to have a look at the amount of foreign players, aged players and how they pay them in order to pass the test.
With all the talk of NZF monitoring player payments, I'm not sure how they can monitor a TAB account, bag full of cash or petrol vouchers. I mean if IRD asked would you admit to the amount of cashies you do a year? Some of the rumours about offers this year (30k was one) is outrageous.
Bring on the season!
I've heard that the new rules limit any team to a maximum of 5 players who are not NZ citizens as opposed to not NZ residents. Anyone out there that can verify that. Could have a major impact on clubs like Cash Tech.
This very much is true. However Cash tech and a few of the bigger Auckland clubs are talking to NZ Football about getting rid of this rule or at the very least delaying it by a season.
Not just the clubs you mention but all around NZ I understand, also not 'about getting rid of this rule...' more about amending it to take into to account for existing players that may been in residing in NZ for a many of years. Surely the intent of the rule is to stop clubs flooding the league by bringing in 'new' non NZ residents into the country (not that can happen at the moment or any time soon. Many of the non NZ residents players currently playing in the top leagues have been for years and may be lost to clubs all together if they are not allowed to play at the top level, many are coaching at junior levels.
Isn’t the non resident rule about non residents taking up spaces of players who can actually play for NZ?? If you are going to include an u20 rule to develop younger players for NZ the surely you have to enforce the non resident rule. Don’t get me wrong I think both rules are stupid but if your going to enforce one stupid rule then you have to enforce them all. I just wish they were as harsh on the player payment rules.
It's a tad easier to nail down players' ages and citizenship status than what might be making its way to their bank accounts.
I've heard that the new rules limit any team to a maximum of 5 players who are not NZ citizens as opposed to not NZ residents. Anyone out there that can verify that. Could have a major impact on clubs like Cash Tech.
This very much is true. However Cash tech and a few of the bigger Auckland clubs are talking to NZ Football about getting rid of this rule or at the very least delaying it by a season.
Not just the clubs you mention but all around NZ I understand, also not 'about getting rid of this rule...' more about amending it to take into to account for existing players that may been in residing in NZ for a many of years. Surely the intent of the rule is to stop clubs flooding the league by bringing in 'new' non NZ residents into the country (not that can happen at the moment or any time soon. Many of the non NZ residents players currently playing in the top leagues have been for years and may be lost to clubs all together if they are not allowed to play at the top level, many are coaching at junior levels.
More of a concern is about what clubs will be required to do in coming season(s), 'B' Licence holder for their coach - not many 'B' Licence holders standing around on the side lines and how quickly can 'B' Licence me gained and how many spots are available in the next season or two - so likely may have to be come in from outside NZ - so a club can have a non NZ resident coach but not players.
Even more costs going to put on to clubs, which will put real pressure on clubs wishing to play in the top league(s) our try and qualify for the top league(s) in these Covid times.
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With less than 50 day to go before the 20th and final edition of the MPL kicks off, in what is likely to be the most important season for most clubs in recent times as they chase a top five placing to advance to the Southern Conference (South Island League) and from there looking for a top two placing to contest the National Championship which commences in early October 2021, along with the top 3 and top 4 from the respective Central and Northern Conferences.
Top five from the MPL this season also guaranteed a place in the 2022 Southern Conference so added pressure on clubs, coaching staff and players to finish in the top five to avoid what is likely to be a hotly contested promotion / play-off series.
With the leagues moving to a equalised cost model for the 2021 season and beyond there will no longer the same financial costs constraints holding back clubs from the Canterbury Championship League, Nelson and Marlborough Division 1 League's mounting a serious challenge for a spot in the Southern Conference in the coming seasons.
Already clubs from the Football South Federation looking at formal mergers or closer working relationships so they can be more competitive in the coming season(s), possibly not many options left for mergers between clubs within the Mainland Region but will be interesting to see what happens in this space going forward.
All this should bring an added edge to the local leagues this season and no doubt plenty of players movements in coming weeks.
curious, how did Nelson/Marlborough clubs like Richmond Athletic previously win the right to play in the MPL? was there a promotion playoff structure in place like with the Central League, or was an application and $$$ needed?
curious, how did Nelson/Marlborough clubs like Richmond Athletic previously win the right to play in the MPL? was there a promotion playoff structure in place like with the Central League, or was an application and $$$ needed?
Yes there was a playoff series between the winner's of the various leagues, if more than one team were seeking promotion.
Some seasons those teams played off against the last placed MPL side, before the bottom placed MPL side faced automatic relegation.
Richmond won promotion for the 'new' eight team 2007 season. In 2006 there were ten teams in the MPL so 9th and 10th placed teams - Christchurch United and New Brighton, were automatically dropped with the 8th placed team Avon United then facing the play-offs.
Both Burnside and Richmond were seeking promotion with Richmond winning the two leg play-offs, 4 - 2 on aggregate with Richmond then defeating Avon 3 - 2 in aggregate.
Richmond finished in 7th place in 2007 and were 8th in 2008 and were relegated after loosing out to ChCh United in the play-off series 6 - 0 on aggregate.
Hearing rumors, that there will be an announcement tomorrow on exceptions or rule changes to the new zealand resident rule for the new competition structure for South Island teams.
Also hearing Mainland have gone to NZF to make this happen, lets all be honest here, on Cash Tech's behalf. Just because the top team in the city is STACKED with Non residents, doesn't mean we need the rules changed to accommodate them, those top players would have absolutely no problem walking into any other team in the city.
Absolute disgrace, level playing field please, is that too much to ask?
The rule is in place so that there is bigger emphasize on developing talent eligible for the All Whites, having 8-9 Non residents in your starting eleven doesn't help New Zealand football. Doesn't matter if they are already here or bought in after the fact, same thing. No reason they can't spread themselves around and not all be at the same one club, blocking the pathway of that clubs younger talent. We don't need or want a rule change.
The rule is in place so that there is bigger emphasize on developing talent eligible for the All Whites, having 8-9 Non residents in your starting eleven doesn't help New Zealand football. Doesn't matter if they are already here or bought in after the fact, same thing. No reason they can't spread themselves around and not all be at the same one club, blocking the pathway of that clubs younger talent. We don't need or want a rule change.
Would be interested in seeing the names of the 8 - 9 Non residents players your are referring to.
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curious, how did Nelson/Marlborough clubs like Richmond Athletic previously win the right to play in the MPL? was there a promotion playoff structure in place like with the Central League, or was an application and $$$ needed?
Yes there was a playoff series between the winner's of the various leagues, if more than one team were seeking promotion.
Some seasons those teams played off against the last placed MPL side, before the bottom placed MPL side faced automatic relegation.
Richmond won promotion for the 'new' eight ten 2007 season. In 2006 there were ten teams in the MPL so 9th and 10th placed teams - Christchurch United and New Brighton, were automatically dropped with the 8th placed team Avon United then facing the play-offs.
Both Burnside and Richmond were seeking promotion with Richmond winning the two leg play-offs, 4 - 2 on aggregate with Richmond then defeating Avon 3 - 2 in aggregate.
Richmond finished in 7th place in 2007 and were 8th in 2008 and were relegated after loosing out to ChCh United in the play-off series 6 - 0 on aggregate.
greatly appreciated mate - thanks!
The rule is in place so that there is bigger emphasize on developing talent eligible for the All Whites, having 8-9 Non residents in your starting eleven doesn't help New Zealand football. Doesn't matter if they are already here or bought in after the fact, same thing. No reason they can't spread themselves around and not all be at the same one club, blocking the pathway of that clubs younger talent. We don't need or want a rule change.
FactChecker remember Mainland Football and Football South run their local leagues and not Football NZ, this includes the MPL and SFL.
The rule is in place so that there is bigger emphasize on developing talent eligible for the All Whites, having 8-9 Non residents in your starting eleven doesn't help New Zealand football. Doesn't matter if they are already here or bought in after the fact, same thing. No reason they can't spread themselves around and not all be at the same one club, blocking the pathway of that clubs younger talent. We don't need or want a rule change.
FactChecker remember Mainland Football and Football South run their local leagues and not Football NZ, this includes the MPL and SFL.
The rule is in place so that there is bigger emphasize on developing talent eligible for the All Whites, having 8-9 Non residents in your starting eleven doesn't help New Zealand football. Doesn't matter if they are already here or bought in after the fact, same thing. No reason they can't spread themselves around and not all be at the same one club, blocking the pathway of that clubs younger talent. We don't need or want a rule change.
FactChecker remember Mainland Football and Football South run their local leagues and not Football NZ, this includes the MPL and SFL.
how can you play a regional league under one set of rules that qualifies for another competition (national league) which has a different set of rules?? Common sense says that all the rules should align..... although I do wonder about the amount of common sense at MF at times....
The rule is in place so that there is bigger emphasize on developing talent eligible for the All Whites, having 8-9 Non residents in your starting eleven doesn't help New Zealand football. Doesn't matter if they are already here or bought in after the fact, same thing. No reason they can't spread themselves around and not all be at the same one club, blocking the pathway of that clubs younger talent. We don't need or want a rule change.
FactChecker remember Mainland Football and Football South run their local leagues and not Football NZ, this includes the MPL and SFL.
how can you play a regional league under one set of rules that qualifies for another competition (national league) which has a different set of rules?? Common sense says that all the rules should align..... although I do wonder about the amount of common sense at MF at times....
Agree but different rules around the country for years, that is why clubs get caught out most years breaching Chatham Cup rules.
The new Conference League structure was only announced prior to Christmas with feedback asked for and many seeking further clarification on what does a NZ resident means as opposed to a player with a NZ resident permit but yet to complete the process of becoming a NZ Resident etc. .
So clearly some are saying we need more information / guidence / maybe even legal rulings as to what all this means and to allow time may be different rules from one competition to another within the same season.
Just looked on the NZ Football website and cannot see regulations / rules for the pending the new 'National Championship' that kick's off in October.
The rule is in place so that there is bigger emphasize on developing talent eligible for the All Whites, having 8-9 Non residents in your starting eleven doesn't help New Zealand football. Doesn't matter if they are already here or bought in after the fact, same thing. No reason they can't spread themselves around and not all be at the same one club, blocking the pathway of that clubs younger talent. We don't need or want a rule change.
FactChecker remember Mainland Football and Football South run their local leagues and not Football NZ, this includes the MPL and SFL.
how can you play a regional league under one set of rules that qualifies for another competition (national league) which has a different set of rules?? Common sense says that all the rules should align..... although I do wonder about the amount of common sense at MF at times....
Agree but different rules around the country for years, that is why clubs get caught out most years breaching Chatham Cup rules.
The new Conference League structure was only announced prior to Christmas with feedback asked for and many seeking further clarification on what does a NZ resident means as opposed to a player with a NZ resident permit but yet to complete the process of becoming a NZ Resident etc. .
So clearly some are saying we need more information / guidence / maybe even legal rulings as to what all this means and to allow time may be different rules from one competition to another within the same season.
Just looked on the NZ Football website and cannot see regulations / rules for the pending the new 'National Championship' that kick's off in October.
I have spoken to a few people up north who have heard about what’s going on down here. They checked with NZ football and they have said the original rule stands and they don’t intend to change it...... at the moment. So who knows with a enough pressure NZ football will prob flip flop again
Hearing rumors, that there will be an announcement tomorrow on exceptions or rule changes to the new zealand resident rule for the new competition structure for South Island teams.
Also hearing Mainland have gone to NZF to make this happen, lets all be honest here, on Cash Tech's behalf. Just because the top team in the city is STACKED with Non residents, doesn't mean we need the rules changed to accommodate them, those top players would have absolutely no problem walking into any other team in the city.
Absolute disgrace, level playing field please, is that too much to ask?
Hearing rumors, that there will be an announcement tomorrow on exceptions or rule changes to the new zealand resident rule for the new competition structure for South Island teams.
Also hearing Mainland have gone to NZF to make this happen, lets all be honest here, on Cash Tech's behalf. Just because the top team in the city is STACKED with Non residents, doesn't mean we need the rules changed to accommodate them, those top players would have absolutely no problem walking into any other team in the city.
Absolute disgrace, level playing field please, is that too much to ask?
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Hearing rumors, that there will be an announcement tomorrow on exceptions or rule changes to the new zealand resident rule for the new competition structure for South Island teams.
Also hearing Mainland have gone to NZF to make this happen, lets all be honest here, on Cash Tech's behalf. Just because the top team in the city is STACKED with Non residents, doesn't mean we need the rules changed to accommodate them, those top players would have absolutely no problem walking into any other team in the city.
Absolute disgrace, level playing field please, is that too much to ask?
Soon to be a lot of new New Zealand Citizens that are eligible but just not applied yet?
Hearing rumors, that there will be an announcement tomorrow on exceptions or rule changes to the new zealand resident rule for the new competition structure for South Island teams.
Also hearing Mainland have gone to NZF to make this happen, lets all be honest here, on Cash Tech's behalf. Just because the top team in the city is STACKED with Non residents, doesn't mean we need the rules changed to accommodate them, those top players would have absolutely no problem walking into any other team in the city.
Absolute disgrace, level playing field please, is that too much to ask?
Confirmed NZ football rule stands. A few Tech boys will be looking for new clubs if they want playing mins.
If the gossip is correct there is a whole lotta money being flashed around the MPL in a year that NZ Football is meant to be cracking down on it.
Along with the citizen/resident rule it makes for an interesting 2021.
If the gossip is correct there is a whole lotta money being flashed around the MPL in a year that NZ Football is meant to be cracking down on it.
Along with the citizen/resident rule it makes for an interesting 2021.
Just a thought :)
The draw is out and on the Mainland website. It appears to be a clusterf*ck of Friday, Saturday and Sunday games at random times. Good luck arranging anything else!
4 weeks till kick off tho.
The draw is out and on the Mainland website. It appears to be a clusterf*ck of Friday, Saturday and Sunday games at random times. Good luck arranging anything else!
4 weeks till kick off tho.
What time do your Sunday Leagues game kick-off, our are the MPL game the curtain raiser.
The draw is out and on the Mainland website. It appears to be a clusterf*ck of Friday, Saturday and Sunday games at random times. Good luck arranging anything else!
4 weeks till kick off tho.
With the current fixtures it is possible to watch 36 of the 49 games that will be played in Christchurch.
The draw is out and on the Mainland website. It appears to be a clusterf*ck of Friday, Saturday and Sunday games at random times. Good luck arranging anything else!
4 weeks till kick off tho.
What time do your Sunday Leagues game kick-off, our are the MPL game the curtain raiser.
Finally the Sunday League are getting the respect they deserve.
Hi all,
Just to let you know that some of these larger threads are causing some issues with the new site. So given the move to a new National League format, I'm going to close this one, and create a new MPL thread for the 2021 season. We'll also create a South Island Championship thread in the Handy Prem Category for that part of the national league.
Just to let you know that some of these larger threads are causing some issues with the new site. So given the move to a new National League format, I'm going to close this one, and create a new MPL thread for the 2021 season. We'll also create a South Island Championship thread in the Handy Prem Category for that part of the national league.