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Looks like the Yanks are struggling as well - could be Aus & USA.

Holding out for Panama to pull off a win.

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Well, hopes alive. This is Hudson's chance to write himself into the history books. If we win against Peru, he will be forever remembered as the first coach to beat a South American team, and just the third to get NZ to the World Cup. Come on NZ, Come on Hudson, let's book our tickets to Russia.

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NZ v Peru sounds v similar to NZ v Bahrain to me. Woop woop

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Last visit to the World Cup for Peru....1982.Something about that year....

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NZ v Peru sounds v similar to NZ v Bahrain to me. Woop woop

NZ vs Bahrain: 63rd vs 60th

NZ vs Peru: 113th vs 12th

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NZ v Peru sounds v similar to NZ v Bahrain to me. Woop woop

Arriba Peru. Was my darkhorse pick. In reality they are near standard of Mexico in 2013. FIFA rankings they are in top 20?

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coochiee wrote:

NZ v Peru sounds v similar to NZ v Bahrain to me. Woop woop

Arriba Peru. Was my darkhorse pick. In reality they are near standard of Mexico in 2013. FIFA rankings they are in top 20?

Peru ranked 12 Mexico were around 20 in 2013.I see Honduras are ranked at 74.We got the bad end in 2013.

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Sanday wrote:
coochiee wrote:

NZ v Peru sounds v similar to NZ v Bahrain to me. Woop woop

Arriba Peru. Was my darkhorse pick. In reality they are near standard of Mexico in 2013. FIFA rankings they are in top 20?

Peru ranked 12 Mexico were around 20 in 2013.I see Honduras are ranked at 74.We got the bad end in 2013.

.... and we're at 113.

May as well roll over now.

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patrick478 wrote:

NZ v Peru sounds v similar to NZ v Bahrain to me. Woop woop

NZ vs Bahrain: 63rd vs 60th

NZ vs Peru: 113th vs 12th

It's really not even close to being similar.

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That was an interesting equalizer for Peru v Colombia.

It was an indirect free kick which the player shot at goal & only the attempted save by the keeper to touch it in made it valid. 

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That was an interesting equalizer for Peru v Colombia.

It was an indirect free kick which the player shot at goal & only the attempted save by the keeper to touch it in made it valid. 

Pretty sure it took a touch of James Rodriguez' head in the wall - so the keeper had to scramble over to attempt to save it. Would have been easier to save if it was a direct free kick because the keeper would have been expecting to need to make a save.
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So the Intercontinental Playoff draw for June 2022 is yet to be made. But drawing CONEMBOL will obviously be the worst outcome for OFC winners (hopefully AWs).

The traditional long 18 game home & away series for the 10 teams in CONEMBOL. At the half way point, except for Brazil & Argentina (8 games each) who had their game called off in farcial scenes last month. Members of the Argentine group not obeying Covid rules in Brazil or something. Like that nutcase Bolsonaro does the right thing re Covid!!

Colombia currently in 5th (playoff) spot, but if it's like 2017 will excitedly go down to the last round. Won't be Brazil with 8 wins from 8. Nor likely Messi & Co (5W & 3D). Our good friends Peru (where I'll be in a few weeks) 7th.

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/

3 more games for each team in this window. 

But surely law of averages & the football fairness gods say OFC draws CONCACAF or AFC????? Rabbit's foot, plus fingers & toes


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I have been following closely as an Argentinian this qualifiers, like all qualifiers. Argentina and Brazil should wrap qualification if they win next couple of games and look a class above everyone else. Ecuador look strong and almost impossible to beat them in the Quito altitude. Uruguay should make 4th. In terms of 5th place, it will come down to Paraguay or Colombia I think. Chile look weak in all aspects, Peru in poor form and Venezuela and Bolivia make up the numbers.

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So the Intercontinental Playoff draw for June 2022 is yet to be made. But drawing CONEMBOL will obviously be the worst outcome for OFC winners (hopefully AWs).

The traditional long 18 game home & away series for the 10 teams in CONEMBOL. At the half way point, except for Brazil & Argentina (8 games each) who had their game called off in farcial scenes last month. Members of the Argentine group not obeying Covid rules in Brazil or something. Like that nutcase Bolsonaro does the right thing re Covid!!

Colombia currently in 5th (playoff) spot, but if it's like 2017 will excitedly go down to the last round. Won't be Brazil with 8 wins from 8. Nor likely Messi & Co (5W & 3D). Our good friends Peru (where I'll be in a few weeks) 7th.

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/

2 more games for each team in this window. 

But surely law of averages & the football fairness gods say OFC draws CONCACAF or AFC????? Rabbit's foot, plus fingers & toes


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Results this morning. 10 of 18 rounds completed. Brazil & Argy with that game in hand, and they are both virtually through already. Certainly the Brazilians are (9W from 9).

Ecuador (3rd - 16 pts), Uruguay (4th), Colombia (5th), Paraguay (6th) & Peru (7th - 11 pts) with a 5 pt spread are basically fighting over the other 3 spots.

Uruguay  0 - 0  Colombia 
Paraguay  0 - 0  Argentina
Venezuela  1 - 3  Brazil
Ecuador  3 - 0  Bolivia
Peru  2 - 0  Chile

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I think Ecuador will join Argentina and Brazil also, Uruguay are stumbling along also but should make it.. i think it will come down now to Paraguay, Colombia or Peru for 4th or 5th
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Results today.
11 of 18 rounds completed. Brazil (1st) & Argy (2nd) with that game in hand, still both unbeaten. Brazilians (9W & 1D) spoil their perfect record with a draw in Colombia.

Messi (a goal) & Co too good for their little Rio Grande brothers Suarez & Co. Old mate Cavanni a HT sub on for Uruguay.

Ecuador (3rd - 16 pts), Uruguay (4th), Colombia (5th), Paraguay (6th) & Peru (7th - 11 pts) still with a 5 pt spread are basically fighting over the other 3 spots. 4 of these 5 teams lost today (Colombia with the draw).

A desperate Chile (8th - 10 pts) with a win today, can't be ruled as well with 7 rounds left. Sth American qualifying really is knife edge brutality each round.

Chile  2 - 0  Paraguay 
Argentina  3 - 0  Uruguay
Bolivia  1 - 0  Peru
Venezuela  2 - 1  Ecuador
Colombia  0 - 0  Brazil

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/
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Today's results.

Argentina 1 - 0  Peru      
Bolivia  4 - 0  Paraguay
Colombia  0 - 0  Ecuador 
Chile 3 - 0  Venezuela   
Brazil  4 - 1 Uruguay 

12 of 18 rounds completed. Brazil (1st, 31 pts) & Argy (2nd, 25 pts) with that game in hand, still both unbeaten. Both basically through to Qatar. Mathematically now Chile (6th, 13 pts) need to win all their remaining 6 games, and Brazil lose all their 7 games they have left, to deny the Brazilians!!

I see Brazil, hosted their Uruguay game in Manaus in the Amazon. These Sth American teams love to create a home advantage!!

More realistically for Chile to catch are Ecuador (3rd, 17 pts), Colombia (4th, 16 pts) & Uruguay (5th, 16 pts).

Bolivia (7th - 12 pts), Paraguay (8th - 12 pts) & Peru (9th - 11 pts) almost out of it now.

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/
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Huge games coming up next week.

The most important is Paraguay against Chile, with loser you would imagine struggle to make 5th place play off spot. Paraguay have a new coach in Argentinian Guillermo Barros Schelotto who had great success with Boca Juniors as a player and coach.

Brazil can wrap up qualifiers if they beat Colombia at home.

Ecuador should wrap up qualifiers also in altitude against lowly Venezuela.

Argentina play an increasingly under pressure Uruguay in Montevideo, knowing Uruguay they will fight to the death and will do whatever they can to win, and REALLY need a win.

Peru should beat Bolivia in Lima and keep in touch with teams above them.

This is a pivotal week of CONMBOL qualifiers 
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Qualifying games today/tomorrow.

Ecuador  1 - 0  Venezuela
Paraguay  0 - 1  Chile good chance Chile will be 5th or even 4th end of this window
Brazil  1 - 0 Colombia 
Peru  -   Bolivia HT here in Lima, Peru just gone 3-0 up
Uruguay  -   Argentina
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Can now rule out Paraguay out of Qatar, with Venezuela and Bolivia. 

Chile look in solid form, and Ecuador and one foot in Qatar you imagine. I think it will now be Uruguay, Chile and Colombia fighting out for spots 4 & 5.
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Can now rule out Paraguay out of Qatar, with Venezuela and Bolivia. 

Chile look in solid form, and Ecuador and one foot in Qatar you imagine. I think it will now be Uruguay, Chile and Colombia fighting out for spots 4 & 5.

Ecuador have Chile (A), Brazil (H) Peru (A), Paraguay (A) and Argentina (H) as their last 5 games. They are far from being on the plane to Qatar yet. 

Chile hitting form at right time. I’ll predict they’ll make it with Uruguay and Colombia.

Goes without saying all would be very very tough as a playoff opponent. 
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They have shown incredible resilience this World Cup qualifiers.. but yeah, have a tendency to choke haha 

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alon222
Can now rule out Paraguay out of Qatar, with Venezuela and Bolivia. 

Chile look in solid form, and Ecuador and one foot in Qatar you imagine. I think it will now be Uruguay, Chile and Colombia fighting out for spots 4 & 5.

Ecuador have Chile (A), Brazil (H) and Peru (A) as their next 3 games. They are far from being on the plane to Qatar yet. Chile hitting form at right time. I’ll predict they’ll make it with Uruguay and Colombia.

Goes without saying all would be very very tough as a playoff opponent. 
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Curious thing about Ecuador is most of their team are black and come from the steamy coastal Guayaquil region. 

But Ecuador never play there preferring to use the altitude advantage of chilly Quito.


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They were extremely well coached by Argentinian Gustavo Alfaro use their athleticism incredibly well. Their issue is consistency 
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Updated results.

Ecuador  1 - 0  Venezuela
Paraguay  0 - 1  Chile
Brazil  1 - 0 Colombia
Peru 3 - 0 Bolivia
Uruguay  -   Argentina  later today

Chile (4th on GD), Colombia & Uruguay (6th) all on 16 pts. Peru (7th) 14 pts.
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Argentina defeated Uruguay who at the moment cannot score a goal to save themselves have now 9 toes in Qatar.

Uruguay now face Bolivia in the altitude of La Paz and REALLY need a win.


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Di Maria with the only goal in Montevideo. Updated results.

Ecuador  1 - 0  Venezuela
Paraguay  0 - 1  Chile
Brazil  1 - 0 Colombia
Peru 3 - Bolivia
Uruguay 0 - Argentina  

Good result for my friends Peru. They win away at bottom side Venzuela, on Tuesday and they will be right amongst it.

Chile (4th on GD), Colombia (5th) & Uruguay (6th) all on 16 pts. Peru (7th) 14 pts.

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/
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Today's games. Peru, Colombia, Ecuador & Chile would have been cheering that Bolivia win, in the heights of La Paz.

Huge win for Peru (4th, 17 pts) in improverished Caracas. Some big drama in 2nd half with keeper Gallese (in goal against AWs in 2017) saving a pen. They go 4th for the moment, and will hope the hosts drop points in Colombia (6th, 16 pts) & Chile (5th, 16 pts).

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/

Bolivia  3 - 0  Uruguay 
Venezuela  1 - 2   Peru   
Colombia   -   Paraguay 
Argentina   -   Brazil 
Chile   -   Ecuador
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Final results.

Great day for Peru (5th, 17 pts). Our old friends from 2017, now sit 5th in the playoff spot. Wouldn't have predicted that start of this Nov window.

Ecuador (3rd, 23 pts) now looking very good for Qatar, with 4 rounds left, and 6 pts clear of Colombia (4th, 17 pts). Winning away against an in form Chile (6th, 16 pts) an impressive result for Ecuadorians.

Uruguay (7th, 16 pts) & Bolivia (8th, 15 pts) make up rest of the 5 teams seemingly fighting for 2 spots (4th & 5th).

Bolivia 3 - 0 Uruguay
Venezuela 1 - 2 Peru
Colombia 0 - 0 Paraguay
Argentina 0 - 0 Brazil 
Chile 0 - 2 Ecuador

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/
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Ecuador 1 - 1 Brazil
Paraguay 0 - 1 Uruguay
Chile 1 - 2 Argentina

Ecuador (3rd, 24 pts) virtually have joined Brazil & Argentina in Qatar now. Uruguay up to 4th (19 pts).

Colombia (17 pts, 5th) v Peru (17 pts, 6th) huge game tomorrow.

I imagine the Aussies, Japanese (or UAE) will hope Peru ends up in that 5th spot. Or even better Bolivia (15 pts, 8th) who are an outside chance of 5th. They are winning everything in high altitude La Paz, but losing everything away. But they do have a winnable game away tomorrow in Caracas.
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Today's results
Colombia 0 - Peru
Venezuela 4 - 1  Bolivia

Peru scored (85th min) completely against run of play in steamy Barranquilla. Watched game in a Peru shirt (my 3rd team) with a Colombian. Apparently his team just can't score, and yes they haven't in their last 6 Sth American WC qualifiers! James Rodríguez these days plies his trade in Qatar, so he's fallen away for sure.

And Bolivia continue their atrocious road form away from La Paz, getting thrashed by bottom team Venezuela.

If Peru (4th, 20 pts) beat Ecuador (3rd, 24 pts) in Lima in a few days, they will have one foot in Qatar. Colombia (6th, 17 pts) in trouble as they travel to Argentina (2nd, 32 pts) next, and Uruguay (5th, 19 pts) should beat Venezuela at home.

Chile (17th, 16 pts) still a chance, but they have a tough away game at altitude in La Paz.

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/

Could yet be another Socceroos verus Uruguay Intercontinental Playoff. About 3rd series of that I think it would be.
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Today's results.

Uruguay (4th, 22 pts) & Ecuador (3rd, 25 pts) almost confirmed for Qatar.

Great result for Chile (6th, 19 pts). Bolivia have been hard to beat at home. Peru now sit in the playoff spot (5th, 21 pts). Who knows they may play the Socceroos for a place in at WC. Our Trans Tasman neighbours may come to the AWs for some 2017 intel. Peru still have their same coach from then. Chileans seem the biggest threat to them.

Colombia (7th, 17 pts) now need some luck. Though they have Paraguay (H) and neighbours Venezuela (A) in March
 
Bolivia  2 - 3  Chile
Uruguay  4 - 1  Venezuela
Argentina  1 - 0  Colombia
Brazil  4 - 0  Paraguay
Peru  1 - 1  Ecuador

Final 2 rounds in March
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Today's games. 17th or 2nd to last round.
Uruguay   -   Peru 
Colombia   -   Bolivia 
Brazil   -   Chile 
Paraguay   -   Ecuador

Tomorrow
Argentina   -   Venezuela

Socceroos fans like AWs fans 4.5 years ago, will be keeping an eagle eye on these games.
https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/

Brazil (1st) & Argentina (2nd) - even though both have a game in hand - are booked for the World Cup. Uruguay (4th, 22 pts) & Ecuador (3rd, 25 pts) almost confirmed for Qatar.

Peru sit in the playoff spot (5th, 21 pts). Chileans (6th, 19 pts) seem the biggest threat to them. Chile (6th, 19 pts). Peru draw today in Uruguay & Chile lose in Brazil - Peru are almost locked in for 5th (they host Paraguay in their last game). Arriba Peru!

Uruguay away in Santiago in a few days, could be a huge game in the last round.

Colombia (7th, 17 pts) now need some luck. Though they have 2 easier games, being Paraguay (H) and neighbours Venezuela (A) in this last window.


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Results yesterday. 17th or 2nd to last round.
Uruguay  1  - Peru 0
Colombia  3 - Bolivia 0
Brazil 4  - Chile 0
Paraguay 3  -   Ecuador 1

Today
Argentina 3 - Venezuela 0

Ecuador (3rd) & Uruguay (4th) are now confirmed for Qatar, after both Peru & Chile lose. Celebrations in Quito & Montevideo.
https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/

Going into the last round Peru (5th, 21 pts), Colombia (6th, 20 pts) & Chille (7th, 19 pts) all in with a shot of 5th and the Playoff spot.

Peru in the box seat hosting Paraguay (8th). Colombia with a trip to easy beats Venezuela (10th & last) and Chile host Uruguay (4th).

Socceroos if they finish 5th in AFC, will be a reasonable chance in neutral Qatar against 5th CONMEBOL side, over 90 mins. 

Peru are well coached, and still with a core of their team from Russia 2018, but no stars. Colombia have been in terrible form, not scoring in 7 consecutive qualifiers until yesterday's win, (and Bolivia are poor away from La Paz). Chile a somewhat aging side, in transition.

But Socceroos will need to be at close to full strength. They were very depleted for the Japan game. I'd still rather be playing 4th from CONCACAF than 5th from CONMEBOL.


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For those like me who were in Lima 2017. Crowd warming before they play Paraguay.

Peru win and they are through to another IC Playoff (against Socceroos or UAE) as 5th team from Sth America. They can't finish higher than 5th. I fly to Lima this weekend, so locals will either be grumpy or happy.



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Today's games, about to kickoff.

Bolivia   - Brazil 
Ecuador   - Argentina 
Peru   - Paraguay 
Chile   - Uruguay 
Venezuela   - Colombia

https://us.soccerway.com/international/south-america/wc-qualifying-south-america/2022-qatar/1st-round/r44085/

FYI - South America will have 6 teams at the bloated 48 team WC 2026 (up from current 4.5 spots), so 4 teams will still miss out, so they won't totally lose the qualifying dramas.
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It's probably another seismic recorded, crowd reaction in Lima. Peru 1-0 up after 5 mins.

6 of their starters today, started 2nd game against NZ in 2017. Another 2 starters today were on the bench in 2017. Experienced side with a good Argentinian coach (also there in 2017), who is a bit of a god in Peru. Even more so if he can get them to consecutive World Cups, after a 36 yr drought before Russia.
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Peru (5th, 21 pts) look comfortable 2-0 up now in Lima, with 15-20 mins to go.

Colombia (6th, 20 pts) giving themselves a chance being 1-0 up in Venezuela. That would be enough if Peru imploded to draw with Paraguay.

Chile (7th, 19 pts) the other team in the mix for 5th, are still 0-0 with Uruguay in Santiago.

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