NZ Football Pyramids 2024

The 2024 New Zealand Football Pyramids Spreadsheet is now available for review and feedback/corrections.

I am still waiting for the South Canterbury Senior Women's League(s) to be published. They will be added, once available.

The Maps Tab & @MrKorppi 's Google Map of the Clubs' home grounds is mostly updated for 2024, but will be fully updated in a few weeks.

Massive kudos to @NRF_Football for their publication of a similar Google Map & summary graphic complete with all the Northern Clubs' logos

The aim of this resource is to pull together the disparate information about the New Zealand Men's and Women's pyramids, the clubs, their grounds, & links to the many places the draws, fixtures, tables and results are published in 1 place

Any corrections please let me know.

There are now 272 records on the Clubs Tab.  

This includes:   

13 clubs that have previously been active in senior football in 2022 or 2023 but are not active in 2024, namely:

NRF - Whangarei Marist, Kawerau Sports

Central Fed - Marewa United & 7 secondary schools

Southern Fed - Meadowbank United FC, Southland United FC, Te Anau FC.

Hey, there's me at Tier 7! :D

That's a belter of a spreadsheet. Unreal effort to put that together.

Lynn Avon languishing in Social Div 5. How on earth has that happened?

Only feedback i would give is you could potentially move all the tier levels up one. I think NZF consider the National League to be conducted in two parts, one the regional leagues from March-September, then the single round robin championship from October-December. I believe the rules for all three regional leagues are aligned and set by NZF, and seperate from the respective leagues/divisions directly below them. So personally I would consider the likes of Auckland United, Napier City Rovers and Coastal Spirit to be tier 1 already. They are merely aiming for qualification in to the championship phase at the end of the season.

Just my two cents, which largely mean fudge all. Incredible detail though, spent most of this morning looking at it all.

This is outrageous - well done!

Not sure if it's affiliated or not, but there's also Auckland Sunday Football (ASFA). Looking at another 25 teams.

https://asfa.co.nz/ 

Thanks Buffon. I know what you mean re. Lynn-Avon. 

I agree about whether the North, Central, Southern Leagues are 1 or 2. I thought about this for a long time but for consisyency with how divisions which split 'mid season' elsewhere are handled I went with this. 

Thanks. I will look at their website. 

20 Legend

This is outrageous - well done!

Not sure if it's affiliated or not, but there's also Auckland Sunday Football (ASFA). Looking at another 25 teams.

https://asfa.co.nz/ 

bwtcf

Thanks. I will look at their website. 

20 Legend

This is outrageous - well done!

Not sure if it's affiliated or not, but there's also Auckland Sunday Football (ASFA). Looking at another 25 teams.

https://asfa.co.nz/ 

Hello!!

FYI, they are affiliated.

Their constitution is headed up:

"AUCKLAND SUNDAY FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION (Inc.)

A member association of Northern Regional Football (Inc.), New Zealand Football (Inc.), and F.I.F.A.

PO Box 40-582, Glenfield"

I will look at where/how to incorporate this.

bwtcf

FYI, they are affiliated.

Their constitution is headed up:

"AUCKLAND SUNDAY FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION (Inc.)

A member association of Northern Regional Football (Inc.), New Zealand Football (Inc.), and F.I.F.A.

PO Box 40-582, Glenfield"

I will look at where/how to incorporate this.

20 Legend

This is outrageous - well done!

Not sure if it's affiliated or not, but there's also Auckland Sunday Football (ASFA). Looking at another 25 teams.

https://asfa.co.nz/ 

Nice, I think they've actually lost a lot of teams this year. Last year they had 5 divisions (including 1 masters division), but they seem to have dropped right down to 2 divisions this year.

Their prems teams are very full of themselves - think they're professionals - but it's pretty low quality football. With that said, a few of them have caused a few Chatham Cup upsets.

I can think of at least one below Prems level that is also extremely full of themselves. 

Embarrassing behaviour really.

Nice work.

Suggestions:

A minor correction for you Brandon. BOP div 2B is just for grading, it will end up being part of div 2 after grading, so part of tier 7. Oi oi Plains Rangers!

I went to Otorohanga vs Colo Boys FC in the Chatham Cup Preliminary Round on Thursday at the Otorohanga Domain (Oto 4-0). Was a great watch and good chat about the history of Otorohanga Wanderers/AFC with the club stalwarts on the deck too.

Thanks Reubee.

I will add Chatham & Kate Sheppard Cups columns to the Clubs tab. Great idea.

I don't think there should be a top tier for Wellington Phoenix and Auckland FC - they are Australian Clubs who play in the Australian Pyramid. No one can get promoted from the National League to a tier that they are in.

I will talk to Simon (who does the maps part) about kits.

I agree that Clubs under MOUs etc is a grey area. At the moment things like the Tauranga Moana and Te Kotahitanga member clubs is noted in the notes column on the Clubs tab. I will have a think about this. I might make the top team of the member clubs blue or something.

School XIs is not on my list of to dos. I've already spent 1000s of hours on this.

reubee

Nice work.

Suggestions:

• In the clubs list, consider adding two columns to indicate if club entered Chatham Cup and Kate Shepherd Cup 
• Re, national league sides and whether Tier 1 or Tier 2 depending if they qualify, I think it makes the Wikipedia Chatham Cup and KS Cup pages odd when the (1) or (2) needs to change after the game is played depending wether team subsequently qualifies for National League.  IMHO all 32 northern, central, southern league sides are (1)
• Should there be a tier at the top for Wellington Phoenix and Auckland FC ?
• Also look at Wiki for ideas on how to draw map and also kits!
• I noticed you used red to indicate a clubs top team.  Perhaps figure out a way to render clubs impacted by MOU.  For instance on womens side Tauranga Moana is made up of Otumoetai, Papamoa, Tauranga FC.  There is an inconsistency wether those clubs women's teams are rendered red or black.
• A seperate tab for school 1st XIs!

First go at the Joint Ventures coverage added.

JV's top teams in red, individual component clubs' top teams in crimson. (I am wondering if I should change this to Dark and Light Blue for red/green colour blind people...)

Please let me know if you spot anything that needs correcting.

I've asked for advice (here) as to what to do about the Coastal Spirt FC / St Albans Shirley FC Joint Venture in the women's pyramid, as it's the one case where a component club (Coastal Spirt) plays at a higher tier (and at lower teirs too) than the JV entity.

bwtcf

First go at the Joint Ventures coverage added.

JV's top teams in red, individual component clubs' top teams in crimson. (I am wondering if I should change this to Dark and Light Blue for red/green colour blind people...)

Please let me know if you spot anything that needs correcting.

I've asked for advice (here) as to what to do about the Coastal Spirt FC / St Albans Shirley FC Joint Venture in the women's pyramid, as it's the one case where a component club (Coastal Spirt) plays at a higher tier (and at lower teirs too) than the JV entity.

This is all my view for Mainland Competitions that needs updating.

I count Mainland Premiership and Nelson Bays Premiership both in Tier 3 as both leagues have the option to be promoted to Southern League via the play-off series. 
So it would go:

Reason why I said 'Nelson Premiership (inc Marlborough)' is because I'm not sure about how Marlborough teams could get promoted to Southern League, most likely do what Rangers are doing.

I'd also change Mainland Premiership and Championship to Canterbury  Premiership and Championship. I'd also swap Coastal Spirit Reserves and Cashmere Technical U20s (more alphabetically correct). Universities AFC 3rd XI Gold and Universities AFC 4th XI Maroon are the last year names for the team and I'd just remove Gold and Maroon in the names, as the 4th XI was 3rd XI last year. Also in Div 2, remove Halswell United AFC and Mid Canterbury United FC Red as they withdrew from the league before the season started.
In Canterbury Championship, as of today it seems, Nomads United U20 Reserves got taken/withdrawn from the competition for failing to provide a team 3 weeks in a row. Could also add Mens Sunday League, as you have the womens.

About the Coastal SAS thing, both clubs have practically merged their women's spaces together and play under Coastal Spirit SAS, with both the clubs badges. In the Reta Fitzpatrick Cup, the regional women's knockout cup, the name is under Coastal Spirit SAS. Unsure why the SAS got removed form the SIWLQ team, but still seems like they are together as haven't seen anything online and there are multiple players who have played in the CPL and CCL with a few playing in SIWLQ.

Thanks for that input Stolen Thought.

I had discussed this with a few people in previous years. The feeling is that _IF_ Nelson Suburbs happened to get relegated from the Southern League they would drop to the Mainland Premiership, not to the Nelson Bays Premiership. However your point about Teams from the Nelson Bays Premiership going into the playoff series for the Southern League carries a lot of weight.

I think your structure makes sense and I am interested to hear what others have to say. In the interim I have altered it to show the structure you proposed.

With regards to Div 2 when Halswell AFC and Mid Canterbury FC Red withdrew, did they move to another division(s), or are they not competing after having withdrawn?

Mainland Sunday Men's added on the Other Non Pyramid Leagues tab.

bwtcf

Thanks for that input Stolen Thought.

I had discussed this with a few people in previous years. The feeling is that _IF_ Nelson Suburbs happened to get relegated from the Southern League they would drop to the Mainland Premiership, not to the Nelson Bays Premiership. However your point about Teams from the Nelson Bays Premiership going into the playoff series for the Southern League carries a lot of weight.

I think your structure makes sense and I am interested to hear what others have to say. In the interim I have altered it to show the structure you proposed.

With regards to Div 2 when Halswell AFC and Mid Canterbury FC Red withdrew, did they move to another division(s), or are they not competing after having withdrawn?

Mainland Sunday Men's added on the Other Non Pyramid Leagues tab.

No probs, yeah I can see if Nelson Suburbs are relegated, CPL teams (mostly the reserve teams) probably will not want to make the up to Nelson (though it will be good experience for them). But I dont see Nelson spending the money to travel down to Christchurch every fortnight to play Southern League reserve teams, with 2-3 are U20 teams. 

Not sure about why Halswell withdrew from Div 2, but Mid Canterbury Red was having number issues and they don't seem to be in any division. 

There are a few Mainland club in the club section that have slightly outdated home grounds or the socials.

You could potentially add Ōtākaro FC with Burwood, Coastal Spirit, Ferrymead Bays, Parklands United, St Albans Shirley and Western in as a joint venture in the clubs section, Home Ground: South New Brighton Park, English Park (14, 15 Grade); Website: here; Other Websites: here.

For Latest Results and Fixtures section,
Southern Football's section for Southland Football doesn't seem to work, and I see that you have got the men's link but not the women's Link.

Sorry if it has seemed that I have thrown a lot of stuff to include/update. This seems like a nice informative project to show the unshown clubs around the country.

Thank you for all of that. Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

I will get onto updating that this seek. I have been away in Auckland all weekend. 

Most of those updates done now. 

I have not included Ōtākaro FC. Had a look at their websites, thanks very much for the heads up. This spreadsheet's scope is limited to clubs playing SENIOR Football. As such Junior only clubs are not included (unless, like Meadowbank United, they were playing senior football previously, but presently are only fielding junior teams). If/When Ōtākaro FC's U17's progress into the senior pyramid, I will include them then.

For the Southland results & fixtures the men's column links to the men's page, and if you scroll to the right (in the shaded blue section) the women's column links to the women's page.

Once again, I REALLY appreciate and welcome this kind of intel & insight from people familiar with the local scenes around different parts of the country. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Does anyone down south have any intel re. the South Canterbury Women's League? It's not on the Southern website and it was last year.

I can't tell if this is because it hasn't been added to the website (yet) or because there is no league this season.

bwtcf

Does anyone down south have any intel re. the South Canterbury Women's League? It's not on the Southern website and it was last year.

I can't tell if this is because it hasn't been added to the website (yet) or because there is no league this season.

The league is being run unaffiliated this year to keep fees down for the teams participating. I believe the same 5 teams as last year are competing again this year