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All Whites qualify for 2010 World Cup and every age group FIFA tournament from here on....Phoenix become a force in A-league with big crowds.....
All Blacks don't win 2011 Rugby World Cup (an obscure contest)  , All Whites qualify for 2014 World Cup = seismic shift in national perception ....
 
may your wish come true
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Bahrain 5 - 1 Togo.    Just the false sense of security we wanted them to have... right?
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sneakyrat wrote:
Bahrain 5 - 1 Togo.    Just the false sense of security we wanted them to have... right?


My friend, the Togo national team came and has the goal of preparing for an important match he had with Gabon, meaning it did not come for tourism here.
The result is not important, it is important that the coach do the plan they want and make sure that the players will apply
Match with New Zealand will be very difficult, and the New Zealand team is much stronger than Togo
Greetings
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98united99 wrote:
All Whites qualify for 2010 World Cup and every age group FIFA tournament from here on....Phoenix become a force in A-league with big crowds.....All Blacks don't win 2011 Rugby World Cup (an obscure contest)� , All Whites qualify for 2014 World Cup = seismic shift in national perception ....

�

may your wish come true


... and then you wake up

....and you realise there is a damp, warm spot where you were lying

...and your partner is looking at you in a very worried way.
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smittyz11 wrote:
I had an awesome idea....

the all whites should play aganst the nix non aw's in a "friendly" match

even if it's a training run just to try a few things. think it'd be good as they would be against Ifill, Greenie, Dura, Lia etc.....

 
 
In an ideal world the AW,s should have assembled last Monday(except for the UK guys) They should have trained all week and then played a warm up game against the phoenix reserves this weekend. Then when the UK guys arrive next Monday they could have continued there training all week.
 
That way they would have had a proper buildup. Compared to the Bahrain team we will be underdone. Fail to prepare then prepare to fail.
 
This is the biggest game for NZ football for nearly 30 years. NZ football would get a $8 million payout...which would be huge for the future of NZ football.
 
I know there are dozens of reasons why the above plan did not happen(Ricki coaching Nix and AWS etc) But we have a habit in this country of doing things half arsed, underprepared, she will be right, No 8 wire blah blah
 
i'm not angsting over this. I'm sure  the guys will play with true spirit and pride and fight to the end. But if the result does not go our way will we be satisfied that we did everything we could to prepare the team in the best possible way.
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not good they beat togo though. O well

ONE WEEK TO GO!!!!
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zinidane wrote:
smittyz11 wrote:
I had an awesome idea....

the all whites should play aganst the nix non aw's in a "friendly" match

even if it's a training run just to try a few things. think it'd be good as they would be against Ifill, Greenie, Dura, Lia etc.....

 
 
In an ideal world the AW,s should have assembled last Monday(except for the UK guys) They should have trained all week and then played a warm up game against the phoenix reserves this weekend. Then when the UK guys arrive next Monday they could have continued there training all week.
 
That way they would have had a proper buildup. Compared to the Bahrain team we will be underdone. Fail to prepare then prepare to fail.
 
This is the biggest game for NZ football for nearly 30 years. NZ football would get a $8 million payout...which would be huge for the future of NZ football.
 
I know there are dozens of reasons why the above plan did not happen(Ricki coaching Nix and AWS etc) But we have a habit in this country of doing things half arsed, underprepared, she will be right, No 8 wire blah blah
 
i'm not angsting over this. I'm sure  the guys will play with true spirit and pride and fight to the end. But if the result does not go our way will we be satisfied that we did everything we could to prepare the team in the best possible way.
Couple of the AW's who finished there season in the American League have been training with the Pheonix. the rest still have commitments before meeting up.
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Hard News wrote:
Won't happen in our lives, and stop shouting.
 
C'mon News, with a few minor tweaks to your lifestyle and some of the more outrageous predictions for the future advances in medical science it must be at least theoretically possible
 
 
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Its the final countdown.

No injuries this weekend, please!!!!
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darkhorse wrote:
zinidane wrote:
smittyz11 wrote:
I had an awesome idea....

the all whites should play aganst the nix non aw's in a "friendly" match

even if it's a training run just to try a few things. think it'd be good as they would be against Ifill, Greenie, Dura, Lia etc.....

 
 
In an ideal world the AW,s should have assembled last Monday(except for the UK guys) They should have trained all week and then played a warm up game against the phoenix reserves this weekend. Then when the UK guys arrive next Monday they could have continued there training all week.
 
That way they would have had a proper buildup. Compared to the Bahrain team we will be underdone. Fail to prepare then prepare to fail.
 
This is the biggest game for NZ football for nearly 30 years. NZ football would get a $8 million payout...which would be huge for the future of NZ football.
 
I know there are dozens of reasons why the above plan did not happen(Ricki coaching Nix and AWS etc) But we have a habit in this country of doing things half arsed, underprepared, she will be right, No 8 wire blah blah
 
i'm not angsting over this. I'm sure  the guys will play with true spirit and pride and fight to the end. But if the result does not go our way will we be satisfied that we did everything we could to prepare the team in the best possible way.
Couple of the AW's who finished there season in the American League have been training with the Pheonix. the rest still have commitments before meeting up.


I meant that they should all train together, so they have decent players to practice against.

that togo result might give the Bahrainis a false sense of hope cause that result doesn't really mean anything, Togo looked like ass. those goals were pretty average apart from the 4th.
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interesting Ryan Nelsen interview on fifa.com
 

As captain of the New Zealand squad and the All Whites highest-profile player, Ryan Nelsen is determined to do all he can to lead his team-mates to victory over Bahrain in Wellington on 14 November. The Blackburn Rovers defender and former OFC Player of the Year was only four years old the last (and only) time his country qualified for the FIFA World Cup� back in 1982, when Ricki Herbert, the team's current coach, was an integral member of the side.

The second leg of the play-off is being described as the most important game to be played on New Zealand soil and will be played in front of a capacity crowd of over 35,000 at Wellington's Westpac Stadium. The �Cake Tin', as it is affectionately known as by the locals, is sure to provide plenty of passionate support for the Kiwis, which Nelsen believes could be crucial in helping the team reach South Africa.

The 32-year-old also made time to talk to FIFA.com about the current form of his club side, their high-profile manager Sam Allardyce and his new team-mate Michel Salgado.

FIFA.com: You're 90 minutes from the FIFA World Cup - how does that feel?
Ryan Nelsen:  It's very exciting to be in this position and we're in that position because of a fantastic result in Bahrain. It's a �do-or-die, winner takes all' match - and as a footballer it can't get any better than that.

Football's all about taking chances - how determined are the squad to make the most of this one?
Of course we're determined, but Bahrain will be thinking the exact same thing. You don't have many opportunities in your career when you're a win away from making the biggest sporting event in the world. It's tremendously exciting.

Unfortunately you missed the FIFA Confederations Cup through injury, but now that you're back among the squad, have you noticed that they've grown from the experience?
Yes they have, but then again, I expected it. When you go to a tournament like that and when you play quality opposition, you have to gain something from it. I think there were a few harsh lessons learned from the losses [against Spain and South Africa], but the draw against Iraq made gave the squad a self-belief that we are able to compete against the best teams in the world.

Is there anything to fear from Bahrain?
Of course, they're the fifth best team in Asia and there are some fantastic teams in Asia, so obviously they are favourites to win the game. All the pressure is on them. They've got incredible resources and they've played over 20 games together, so we're just hoping that we can spoil their party.

How much of an advantage will it be playing at home - and how much are you a believer that a passionate crowd act as a �12th man'?
It is an advantage, especially as we've got quite a few players in the squad who play regularly at the Westpac Stadium. They should know every blade of grass on the pitch and that should help them. Plus, there's nothing like home comforts. I'm looking forward to getting home, seeing the family and making them proud. It would be a massive thing if we qualified in terms of the growth of the sport in the country. There's so much interest in football, but reaching South Africa would take things to another level. We realise what's at stake - and that's the fun part of it.

They're the fifth best team in Asia and there are some fantastic teams in Asia, so obviously they are favourites to win the game. All the pressure is on them.
Ryan Nelsen, New Zealand captain.

You were only four in 1982, but do you remember anything from the All Whites' appearance at Spain 1982?
I remember my dad waking me up at some awful hour of the morning to watch some game that I don't even remember! I've got a two-year old son, so if I'm playing in South Africa I might get my wife to get him up to watch me, just for the irony of it!

Turning to club matters, it's been a strange start to the season for Blackburn Rovers. You've had some good results, especially against Aston Villa and Burnley, but you're in the bottom three. How would you assess your start?
If you looked at our first ten fixtures, they were some of the hardest in the whole league. We've played some really difficult away games. It's not a case of �the season starts now', but our next ten games are ones that we're looking to take points from. They're going to be really crucial in setting the tone for our season. I honestly think that we're going to start working our way up the table now.

Your manager Sam Allardyce is still trying to make his mark on the club. With the likes of Fernando Hierro, Jay-Jay Okocha and Hidetoshi Nakata fans of his style of management, we'd like to know what makes him different and what he's bringing to the club?
I think his greatest quality is his honesty. He's up front with you and people respect that in football. There's a lot of pressures and people can talk behind your back, but he wants you to know something - he'll tell it straight to your face! It's refreshing when you have that kind of honesty.

The footballing world sat up when he brought Michel Salgado to Ewood Park; how have you enjoyed training and playing with him?
First of all, he's a fantastic guy. If you take away his playing ability and all the successes he's achieved, he's simply one of life's good people. When you play for Blackburn, that's important. We're a very homely club and you've got to have the right character and a will to work hard. Fortunately for us, he fits that description perfectly.

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Anyone know why McGlinchey is not playing in the CCM v MV game that is on at the moment? He was named in the CCM squad. Hope he has not picked up a niggle.
Early retirement
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Check the match thread under A-League.  He's broken.
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Only 7 days to go  now. What is the excitement like in NZ ?? Wall-to wall media coverage ?? Wish I was there  !!
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according to ccm forums he isn't being risked so that's a much better state than what I was thinking.

also Smeltzy getting on the board against sfc is also good for us.
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Comrade Hone Harawira to give a stirring team talk, using interesting terminology referring to white NZ's mating habits lol lol (he uses very bad language)
comrades, brothers and sisters the revolution is here, we are at the gates, glory is ours!!!!
kiwiMalaysia422009-11-08 01:10:08
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Will Ricki do a swan dive a-la Maradonna in World Cup qualifying?
Will TVNZ and 3 news wake up?? or obsess over rugby, netball, show jumping yawn,yawn, yawn??
Will Hone Harawira give an inspirational team talk??(nice language please!!)
Will Ricki get a knighthood??
Will NZRFU self- implode?? (will Dan Carter switch codes????)
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Nelsen scored for Rovers today, that'll surely do him confidence
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98united99 wrote:
Nelsen scored for Rovers today, that'll surely do him confidence
Fallon scored for Plymouth Argyle in their 2-1 win at Doncaster Rovers. 
 
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Will Ricki do a swan dive a-la Maradonna in World Cup qualifying?
Will TVNZ and 3 news wake up?? or obsess over rugby, netball, show jumping yawn,yawn, yawn??
Will Hone Harawira give an inspirational team talk??(nice language please!!)
Will Ricki get a knighthood??
Will NZRFU self- implode?? (will Dan Carter switch codes????)


a la Rabobank ad:

No, no, no, no, no

More importantly will Tina Cross and Ray Woolf combine for retro release of the '82 songs as a medley (of two)?

Junior822009-11-08 08:22:42
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Comrade Hone Harawira to give a stirring team talk, using interesting terminology referring to white NZ's mating habits lol lol (he uses very bad language)
comrades, brothers and sisters the revolution is here, we are at the gates, glory is ours!!!!



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good to see our guys scoring. Apparently Rory's goal was quite a nice one.
Smeltz scored, Fallon scored, Nelson scored (almost twice). Dont think Wood got a run.
Anyone know if killen will be playing?
Getting really exciting now
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Sigh of a relief at that Smeltz goal.
All on form, no big injury worries.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/10608004/
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Junior82 wrote:
Will Ricki do a swan dive a-la Maradonna in World Cup qualifying?
Will TVNZ and 3 news wake up?? or obsess over rugby, netball, show jumping yawn,yawn, yawn??
Will Hone Harawira give an inspirational team talk??(nice language please!!)
Will Ricki get a knighthood??
Will NZRFU self- implode?? (will Dan Carter switch codes????)


More importantly will Tina Cross and Ray Woolf combine for retro release of the '82 songs as a medley (of two)?


Tina Cross still has a decent voice, so I wouldn't mind a song from her.
Hone? Man, I've heard so many people start making excuses about money they've been given, & I just think stop the bullsh*t, you're a corrupt little sh*t and can't be trusted with our money.
Knighthood for Sir Richard, absolutely, just need to find a decent lawyer to draft the application.
NZRFU, the in fighting is so bad, I am waiting for the split.
Better still Ford and Steinlager swap sponsorshi to the All Whites and NZFC and NZ footie is shown on TVNZ live. edward l2009-11-08 10:01:54
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The more I think about it, the less likely brown starting seems to me.
                       Paston
 Whoever is RB   Sigmund  Nelsen Lochhead

Bertos             Elliot            McGlinchey
                    
                     Smeltz

          Killen                     Fallon

Dont know how it would hold up against the break though
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Don't know who to drop but somebody needs to go and have Brown come in.  Maybe move Smeltz forward, lose Fallon and put Brown in with Elliot.
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Im just glad there has been no major injuries worries so far.
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sneakyrat wrote:
Bahrain 5 - 1 Togo.    Just the false sense of security we wanted them to have... right?


Bahrain B team vs Togo C/D team as I understand. So don't look much into this score.
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I would be disappointed if Tim didn't play. He just works hard. Might go missing at times but this is a big game and he'll rise.

See mcglinch as more of an impact player to make the difference late like he did in the first leg.
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it was great to walk out of the ground tonight with pulse still racing and to be looking forward to a crowd 5+ times as big and a match with a hell of a lot riding on it on the 14th
 
i think this week will rival the pre-Melbourne a-league debut week for distraction and anticipation 
 
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Okay phoenix is over for me, the next week is all ALL WHITES!
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Now I have an idea. I know this is not the most sportsmanship-like thing I ever said, but please hear me out:

 
Does anyone know where the Bahraini's will be staying? It has happened (often) in other countries that the home fans have chanted, played the drums, blown their trumpets and what not for the whole night before a big game, in order to make the opposition sleep harder.
Could we think about something similar??
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Messy wrote:
I would be disappointed if Tim didn't play. He just works hard. Might go missing at times but this is a big game and he'll rise.

See mcglinch as more of an impact player to make the difference late like he did in the first leg.


for this game I reckon we'd need McGlinchey to start, he has the crative ability to sniff us a goal or two.

it's really down to Elliott ans Brown as to who is gonna play. Brown is probably more likely to cost us penalties but yes he is a hardworker and is what is in his favour.

we'll find out on thursday..
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smittyz11 wrote:
Messy wrote:
I would be disappointed if Tim didn't play. He just works hard. Might go missing at times but this is a big game and he'll rise.

See mcglinch as more of an impact player to make the difference late like he did in the first leg.


for this game I reckon we'd need McGlinchey to start, he has the crative ability to sniff us a goal or two.

it's really down to Elliott ans Brown as to who is gonna play. Brown is probably more likely to cost us penalties but yes he is a hardworker and is what is in his favour.

we'll find out on thursday..
 
Smittyz11 -  i'm not sure where you get the idea that Timmo is likely to commit fouls inside our penalty area
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tigers wrote:
smittyz11 wrote:
Messy wrote:
I would be disappointed if Tim didn't play. He just works hard. Might go missing at times but this is a big game and he'll rise.

See mcglinch as more of an impact player to make the difference late like he did in the first leg.


for this game I reckon we'd need McGlinchey to start, he has the crative ability to sniff us a goal or two.

it's really down to Elliott ans Brown as to who is gonna play. Brown is probably more likely to cost us penalties but yes he is a hardworker and is what is in his favour.

we'll find out on thursday..
 
Smittyz11 -  i'm not sure where you get the idea that Timmo is likely to commit fouls inside our penalty area


never meant inside the penalty box.  meant fouls but potatoes potahtoes....
smittyz112009-11-08 21:00:18
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The thing is our depth is up front (obviously) and Ricki may not want to put a lesser quality team on just to play a certain formation.
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ok, in that case the word "free-kicks" would allow you to express your opinion in a way that would be understood by football fans

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threat wrote:
The more I think about it, the less likely brown starting seems to me.                     ï¿½ Paston�Whoever is RB�� Sigmund� Nelsen LochheadBertos             Elliot            McGlinchey                                          Smeltz       ï¿½ï¿½ Killen                     FallonDont know how it would hold up against the break though


McGlinchey is injured, not on the bench for Central coast
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