So is the PDL an under 23 with a few overage player competition?
Maximum 5 overage, but voluntary at this stage, so really no it isn't except most clubs are co-operating with the guideline.
Mainland Premier League (Part 1)
I trialled for Canterbury Youth team about 10 years ago. I could tell from the minute I got there I wasn't going to make it. Sure enough the guys who all knew each other and the coach made the grade. Worst thing was it was the day after my 17th birthday and I stayed sober the night before just for the trial. Should have given it a miss.
Should have asked me and saved yourself the grief Tim 
. I think Keith Howard was the coach and I remember seeing you at the trial? No. 1 son trialed as well.
. I think Keith Howard was the coach and I remember seeing you at the trial? No. 1 son trialed as well.
The Academy is a disastrous concept.The 'Rep Migration' Problem is easily fixed by limiting who is at what club. A ceiling is placed on Rep footballers in the one team , this can also incorporate 'homegrown players'. AND NO REP COACH IS A COACH IN THAT GRADE and/or PARENT OF ELIGIBLE CHILD
I don't agree with you on the migration thing. example: a kid is playing for burwood, makes a rep team but then the next season decides to change to playing for halswell as the family now live out that way. If you try and limit player migration based on rep teams it could potentially scare off players/parents. Furthermore it creates a grey area which would be very hard to rule on...when is it ok for a player to change clubs? when isnt it? etc
Another minor hole in your point on rep limits is to do with player development. If coastal ended up with 14 x U14 reps and the ceiling was 4 reps per team would the other 8 have to play in their div 2 team? change club? Why punish clubs who develop their own talent or can attract them with strong coaching? or make kids change to clubs which arent their local...
I do however agree with your caps shouting completely. A rep coach should never be coaching/selecting a rep squad their kids are in. Also agree with the no rep coaches in their age grade.
gings2011-05-24 22:33:34
Rep coaches should be sorted at the beginning of the year and travel round and actually watch some games. Talk to the coaches, get their thoughts, so when trials come around they actually know a thing or two.
Rep coaches should be sorted at the beginning of the year and travel round and actually watch some games. Talk to the coaches, get their thoughts, so when trials come around they actually know a thing or two.
I agree completely, but given the way some clubs struggle for coaches (let alone decent ones) as it is I suspect this is merely going to be a dream (for now atleast)
I trialled for Canterbury Youth team about 10 years ago. I could tell from the minute I got there I wasn't going to make it. Sure enough the guys who all knew each other and the coach made the grade. Worst thing was it was the day after my 17th birthday and I stayed sober the night before just for the trial. Should have given it a miss.
Nothing wrong with that lad, we've all made sacrifices for football. Sometimes they've worked sometimes they hav'nt. My biggest regret is that I didn't make enough sacrifices.
So this morning's Press and radio reveal that Keith Braithwaite is leaving Tech to take up full time Canterbury United role.The last line line of the online report reads "Meanwhile Woolston Technical spokesman Bill Cowen said his club was very supportive of Keith, even though its an awkward situation for Tech". Fair summary?
Its the way it should be, as the Can U coach he shouldn't be involved as a MPL coach.
Wonder if this will see a downward slide for Tech in terms of players leaving over the next few seasons (ie: the united players who have gone there).
Wonder if this will see a downward slide for Tech in terms of players leaving over the next few seasons (ie: the united players who have gone there).
If it was more than a 14 game league I would agree. But do you have coach do no coaching for most of the year then do it over the summer? Wouldn't happen for players but are coaches that different.
I understand it is an awkward situation for Tech. Might lose all those potential Canty players!
I understand it is an awkward situation for Tech. Might lose all those potential Canty players!
Nomads may yet go down, almost certain if they don't knock Woolston over this weekend.
They have been on the wrong side of three ref calls that could have had them at least another 6 to 9 points.
Vs Bays, 1-1, Bays lucky draw when the ball hits the underside of Xbar and comes out, ref not giving a goal but lineo gives a goal from the 18 metre line,
Vs Tech, ref gives a penalty after 50seconds when contact clearly at least a meter [those on that touch line say it was 2mts] out to the side of the area, yes Tech the player fell into the box.
Vs ChCh U no penalty when Nashy barged over near the goal line and goal side of the defender in the 6yard box, no score at this point in the game. ChCh U at 1 up, get a penalty when ball drilled at defender from 2 metres and arms close to body, Keeper saved it. Nomads coach should have handed the ref a weetbix packet to put his badge in, cause I think that's what he got it out of.
Ass Ref on dug out side was embaressed by the refs performance judging by his head shaking. Both teams playing in Red socks no wonder the lino gave a couple of calls the wrong way. If you don't have the correct strip, Default.
A S of Football.
Nomads did not just lose the 17 div1 team but also most of the 14 or 15 age group from the last couple of years that are involved with CSF or followed a coach.
I watched the first 30 minutes of the FC Twenty v Nomads game on Sunday. Nomads had scored the opening goal from a corner after 30 minutes and even then it looked a one sided game, the FCT11 keeper keeping them in the game up to that point.
Nomads had 5 reserve players starting.
Richmond will thrash FCT11 in any play off if the reports from Nelson area are only 25 percent correct.
They have been on the wrong side of three ref calls that could have had them at least another 6 to 9 points.
Vs Bays, 1-1, Bays lucky draw when the ball hits the underside of Xbar and comes out, ref not giving a goal but lineo gives a goal from the 18 metre line,
Vs Tech, ref gives a penalty after 50seconds when contact clearly at least a meter [those on that touch line say it was 2mts] out to the side of the area, yes Tech the player fell into the box.
Vs ChCh U no penalty when Nashy barged over near the goal line and goal side of the defender in the 6yard box, no score at this point in the game. ChCh U at 1 up, get a penalty when ball drilled at defender from 2 metres and arms close to body, Keeper saved it. Nomads coach should have handed the ref a weetbix packet to put his badge in, cause I think that's what he got it out of.
Ass Ref on dug out side was embaressed by the refs performance judging by his head shaking. Both teams playing in Red socks no wonder the lino gave a couple of calls the wrong way. If you don't have the correct strip, Default.
A S of Football.
Nomads did not just lose the 17 div1 team but also most of the 14 or 15 age group from the last couple of years that are involved with CSF or followed a coach.
I watched the first 30 minutes of the FC Twenty v Nomads game on Sunday. Nomads had scored the opening goal from a corner after 30 minutes and even then it looked a one sided game, the FCT11 keeper keeping them in the game up to that point.
Nomads had 5 reserve players starting.
Richmond will thrash FCT11 in any play off if the reports from Nelson area are only 25 percent correct.
Its the way it should be, as the Can U coach he shouldn't be involved as a MPL coach.
Wonder if this will see a downward slide for Tech in terms of players leaving over the next few seasons (ie: the united players who have gone there).
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Wonder if this will see a downward slide for Tech in terms of players leaving over the next few seasons (ie: the united players who have gone there).
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Said the coach was leaving, not player payments stopping . Does the same apply to Andy Pitman, still assistant coach at CU and Tech? Some of their players have already moved on anyway but losing Braithwaite will probably accelerate this. Having said that they have always had a strong youth team feeding players through to the seniors. And let's not forget he wasn't flavour of the month with every Tech player.
. Does the same apply to Andy Pitman, still assistant coach at CU and Tech? Some of their players have already moved on anyway but losing Braithwaite will probably accelerate this. Having said that they have always had a strong youth team feeding players through to the seniors. And let's not forget he wasn't flavour of the month with every Tech player.[quote=vimfuego]
If it was more than a 14 game league I would agree. But do you have coach do no coaching for most of the year then do it over the summer? Wouldn't happen for players but are coaches that different.
I understand it is an awkward situation for Tech. Might lose all those potential Canty players!
I understand it is an awkward situation for Tech. Might lose all those potential Canty players!
NZFC is supposed to be a 21 game league. Only dropped to 14 as a temporary measure. He should be scouting potential recruits during the winter, between that and a 21 week season plus 4-6 week pre-season easily 30 weeks of the year worth of work, then add in the OFC and the club World Championship and that's the year done and dusted.
Ronaldoknow2011-05-26 20:37:40
Its the way it should be, as the Can U coach he shouldn't be involved as a MPL coach.
Wonder if this will see a downward slide for Tech in terms of players leaving over the next few seasons (ie: the united players who have gone there).
When keith was offered the job for Canty he was already manager of Woolston, he was offered the Canty job because of how well he'd done at tech along with the two games against the phoenix. At the time Canty were aware he would continue his association with tech. Canty were quite happy for him to continue doing the two until a few clubs put their two cents in claiming unfair advantage etc. Most of the lads that played for Canty from Tech were Tech players first not the other way around. The exceptions were Terris, Swaney and Barton. Tech set the standard for the last two seasons and due to that success people would point to having an unfair advantage because we had the Canterbury manager. The fact is players came to Tech because they were winning, end of story. The likes of Burnside and Bays who have inve$ted heavily in their squad should be the ones criticised. Tech, like the Western team that essentially won the National Youth League for Canterbury have always had the talent they just needed something to bring it together. That glue was Braithwaite and Pittman. Rant over
Wonder if this will see a downward slide for Tech in terms of players leaving over the next few seasons (ie: the united players who have gone there).
Oh yeah Tech won't win the league this year, but downward slide, no chance Gings.
Didn't Pitman Kamo and Murray also go to Tech with Braithwaite?
(and btw Burnside and Bays have been criticised) Don't take it personally, this is a forum of rants.
(and btw Burnside and Bays have been criticised) Don't take it personally, this is a forum of rants.
Pitman and braithwaite came to tech prior to their involvement with canterbury as management. Kamo came to tech after being in aussie prior to playing for canty. Murray played for canty in 2006, left for Ireland, returned and joined tech and had no involvement with canty until this season just gone. Fully except that this is a forum of rants, opinions, rumours and the odd fact, just felt like putting my two cents in.
"sorry accept"
Here one of the odd facts; good PDL game tomorrow - 2nd placed Western v 3rd placed Tech. South Brighton Domain.
lines got painted this afternoon
only about 12 sets of tyre marks through the field this week
I shoveled 14 separate piles of dog excrement off the two fields
would dearly like to feed it to the owners of said mutts.
only about 12 sets of tyre marks through the field this week
I shoveled 14 separate piles of dog excrement off the two fields
would dearly like to feed it to the owners of said mutts.
was down their this afternoon, the people that use the changing rooms for the ropes courses are forever driving their vehicles on the pitch rather than park round the back, on top of that they insist on doing the biggest 180 ever right on the pitch as if they were driving the titanic. tried to say something to ye man he just looked at me like I had two heads.
Coastal 2-2 Bays. Up 2-0 too!
Other Premier League Results
Halswell 1 Nelson Suburbs 1
Western 2 Christchurch United 0
Nomads 1 Woolston Technical 1
National Women's KO Cup
Halswell 0 Western 1
FC Twenty11 0 Coastal Spirit 4
Coastal 2-2 Bays. Up 2-0 too![/QUOTE]
Ronaldoknow2011-05-28 18:55:08
Yea boys were gutted at the end. If Kamo is on $300 a game how much was the ref on? Think it was James Thian, had a shocker!
[QUOTE=AllWhites82]Other Premier League Results
Halswell 1 Nelson Suburbs 1
Western 2 Christchurch United 0
Nomads 1 Woolston Technical 1
Such a tough tough league this year. Bays guys were stoked to learn they were still top of the league after coming so close to getting tipped over by Coa$tal.
Coastal 2-2 Bays. Up 2-0 too!
Yes let that one slip away, with Russell Kamo scoring the equaliser late in the game from the penalty spot. Game also doubled as a Hurley Challenge Shield game. AllWhites822011-05-28 17:50:03
[QUOTE=VimFuego]Coastal 2-2 Bays. Up 2-0 too!
Yea boys were gutted at the end. If Kamo is on $300 a game how much was the ref on? Think it was James Thian, had a shocker!
I heard it was $350 per game, but his is leading the Golden Boot race again.
With what their paying Highfield and Collins, if they win the league could be the most expensive title in the history of the MPL. Mind you their "investment" is showing a much better return than Burnsides did over the past 2 seasons at the moment.
And how good must Nomads be feeling taking a point off Tech? Should give them some much needed confidence going into next weekends must win clash with Coa$tal.
Tech wil be kicking themselves given the other results today (or should that read Keith will be kidking them?).
[QUOTE=VimFuego]Coastal 2-2 Bays. Up 2-0 too!
Yea boys were gutted at the end. If Kamo is on $300 a game how much was the ref on? Think it was James Thian, had a shocker!
I heard it was $350 per game, but his is leading the Golden Boot race again.
And the Chilean up front is also on the payrole.
How does Murph feel about that? Runs his ring off all game, probably their best player, he deserves more than Kamo for setting up most of the chances. Not to mention others like Mu etc.
If you mean Mauricio de Oliverira, he is from Brazil not Chile, played for Mid Canty last season as be lives in Ashburton
With what their paying Highfield and Collins, if they win the league could be the most expensive title in the history of the MPL. Mind you their "investment" is showing a much better return than Burnsides did over the past 2 seasons at the moment.
Haha I had a feeling a few teacups were smashed after that one. I didn't see the game but heard it was a bit of a damp squid. The only team that really took advantage this weekend was western, they jump tech now and when they play each other for the catch up game in two weeks it will be interesting to see who comes out on top. Any other scorers or match reports, opinions etc out their?
And how good must Nomads be feeling taking a point off Tech? Should give them some much needed confidence going into next weekends must win clash with Coa$tal.
Tech wil be kicking themselves given the other results today (or should that read Keith will be kidking them?).
Today's scorers were:
Ferrymead Bays 2 (R Kamo 2 - incl pen) Coastal Spirit 2 (A Wellbourn N Gerhardt)0 HT 0 - 2
Halswell 1 (D Ede) Nelson Suburbs 1 (G Feni - pen) HT 0 - 1
Nomads 1 (R Batty) Woolston Technical 1 (R Faichnie) HT 0 - 0
Western 2 (S Miles 2) ChCh United 0 HT 1 - 0
Haha I had a feeling a few teacups were smashed after that one. I didn't see the game but heard it was a bit of a damp squid. The only team that really took advantage this weekend was western, they jump tech now and when they play each other for the catch up game in two weeks it will be interesting to see who comes out on top. Any other scorers or match reports, opinions etc out their?[/QUOTE]
Going to be a big weekend as Tech are at home to Suburbs on Saturday before facing Western with Western taking on Bays - which is also a Hurley Shield Challenge on Saturday before backing up against Tech.
Wow I missed a whole page of post match banter. Am I allowed to chip in @ 1:30am?
Not saying that Coastal deserved the win but how random was it that the lino flagged one way then realised he was pointing the wrong way so everyone had to reset. To make it worse, later on in the game the referee called a foul and called one way, only to realise he called the wrong way, so everyone reset, then realised he had the right way originally and changed his mind again! Classic comedy.
Woulda been great if Coastal had won that woulda really opened up the table. Big match next week against Nomads. Hung out witha few vagabonds tonight they seemed pretty happy witha point against tech. Still ten points behind but.
I'll stop now. Rant over.
Not saying that Coastal deserved the win but how random was it that the lino flagged one way then realised he was pointing the wrong way so everyone had to reset. To make it worse, later on in the game the referee called a foul and called one way, only to realise he called the wrong way, so everyone reset, then realised he had the right way originally and changed his mind again! Classic comedy.
Woulda been great if Coastal had won that woulda really opened up the table. Big match next week against Nomads. Hung out witha few vagabonds tonight they seemed pretty happy witha point against tech. Still ten points behind but.
I'll stop now. Rant over.
Sorry. One more word. If Bays are paying Kamo 350 a week then the world should come to an end should the moon man or christian lunatic predict.
Haha I had a feeling a few teacups were smashed after that one. I didn't see the game but heard it was a bit of a damp squid. The only team that really took advantage this weekend was western, they jump tech now and when they play each other for the catch up game in two weeks it will be interesting to see who comes out on top. Any other scorers or match reports, opinions etc out their?
Far from it, no teacups and a good flowing game with plenty of attacking football from both teams. Coa$tal needed to score again after half time but credit to Bays they defended a lot better in the 2nd 45. I f McDermott had scored with a free header from a Stanton free kick with 30 to go it would have been points in the bag for Coas$tal. Bizarre refereeing decisions cerainly aided Bays including the 2nd yellow card for Paul Bateson who was having a strong game in mid-field. Big weekend in the league next weekend for all teams with Chatham Cup on the Monday, bring it on.
Sorry damp squid was in reference to tech nomads game
Sorry damp squid was in reference to tech nomads game
Oh, fully understand that one 
Nomads are going to need more than draws though. Next weekend is huge for Tech if they seriously want to win the league.
Nomads are going to need more than draws though. Next weekend is huge for Tech if they seriously want to win the league.
Sorry. One more word. If Bays are paying Kamo 350 a week then the world should come to an end should the moon man or christian lunatic predict.
you forgot to add 50 a goal as well, have a feeling some of the phoenix team would be happy with that contract.
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Oh, fully understand that one Nomads are going to need more than draws though. Next weekend is huge for Tech if they seriously want to win the league.
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Nomads are going to need more than draws though. Next weekend is huge for Tech if they seriously want to win the league.Still in with a shout but they can't really afford to lose or even draw too many games. If I'm honest don't think they've got the depth or consistency to grab title no 3 this year, hopefully I'm wrong.
Yes Tech do not look as strong this year, but considering up half their squad form last season have gone for various reason it is not that suprising.
Up until two weeks ago it looked like it was Bays title to loose, some close to the camp willing to tell others that they were going to win all of their 21 games but their results in the last two rounds have blown that belief apart as well as altering the balance but still look to be favourites for the title.
Bay have a testing few weeks coming up with Chch United away, Western at home then Nelson away with United the easier of the three, then face Nomads and Halswell at home and then Tech away, plus another away trip to Nelson on the final day of the season..
Bays, or Ferrymead Buys as I have heard them called in recent weeks have also made a few emenies this season so a few clubs out to lower their colours.
Hopefully it will be a five team race with the title going right to the wire with Bays, Nelson, Halswell, Western and Tech all in the mix, as so far this season both Coastal and United have not be able to win consistantly to be in the title race and of course Nomads will have their hands full with avoiding the drop.
Also depending if one or more of the top teams have a good run in the Chatham Cup as this can be a distraction from the league, also the Cup goes to a national draw a round earlier this season, at the final sixteen stage so maybe a few club treasurers will be hoping / praying for an early exit.
AllWhites822011-05-29 19:50:42
In the last few years playing against Bays I've always seen them as a fairweather team. When things are going well for them they look like contenders to win the league but when its time to roll up your sleeves they've always been lacking. I remember in 2009 a top of the table clash between Bays and tech. Tech were 2-1 down with 5 to go playing into a howling southerly. Tech won 3-2 (ironically Kamo got the winner). Bays sank down the table after that and went on a 8 game losing streak, only surviving relegation via the play-offs. By bringing in Kamo and the Brazillian lad they've at least got that quality up front that means when chances come 9 times out of 10 they'll put it away. They seemed a bit lacking playing us but then you could put that down to a 1 0ff and Kamo was suspended. I guess what I'm trying to say is that winning leagues (be it la liga or the mainland) does'nt always come down to having the best team on paper, sometimes you need experience, confidence and a little bit of bollucks. Coastal will be kicking themselves because if they had won that one, I would have predicted a similer freefall to 2009 for bays.
Sure there will be some kicking of ourselves however could have lost it too. I hate draws as much as the next person however was a cracking game full of dramarama. Would have made the table a whole lot more interesting too. Next weekend could be a defining one at different ends of the table.