Wellington rugby running scared?
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i think this may be due to the sell out at the league and not
because the phoenix had 15k last home game, maybe when the nix get
22-25 k they will worry
I have Season passes for Rugby and Football for the stadium and I
don't see why you feel the need to completely rip Rugby to pieces.
It's not like they are arch rivals sure New Zealand vs. Ausy rip
into ausy all you want i would support you BUT we are Wellington
the Capital of New Zealand and yet we seem to be treating New
Zealand like an arch rival. SO why can't we support our AB's over
in France as the take on the Rugby world aswell as supporting the
Phoenix I really don't see the problem with it. Those be my
thoughts.
You have to understand New Zealand is a rugby nation, you cant just think after two Phoenix games that the whole nation is going to be football crazy, since the Phoenix is based in Wellington not NZ wide.
we need all sports lovers to get on board and support the nix but
gotta say a half full stadium for the phoenix had way more passion
then a full stadium for any NPC game iv ever been to.
You should go see some of the games down at Carisbrook when the scarfies are in full swing!
But yeah I agree with you up here - some of the crowds at the rugby looked half asleep. Was sweet watching us beat the Aussies at cricket though, coming back to get over 300 runs to win...
I can't believe the paper said there had been 19,000 tickets
pre-sold to the wellington taranaki game - cant be anywhere near
that number from what i can see on the telly.
Reported on the "unbiased' news last night by another great local
sports person, Jerry Collins, that not only is he the proud owner
of that Argy cheat's autograph, maradonna, but he is looking
forward to getting Zidane's autograph as well, Becham's hand
is too small!![quote]. At least Jerry has grown up [as all
other SPORTS loving people in Wellington & NZ should emulate],
in recognising that FOOTBALL has finally arrived big time in this
Capital, and furthermore it is here to stay. Thank heaven that it
is Wellington that has shown us ignorant kiwis, poms, and other
folk the light, in how to really support sport per se.
rastus2007-09-06 12:55:35
The truth is always hard to suppress, thanks for giving us this
info, as our so called "unbiased" media, make me sick the way in
which they appear to always treat FOOTBALL as the poorer cousin of
both rugby codes.
As a matter of interest, does the rugby fraternity have anything
similar to the Phoenix [& Y/F] with a forum, that we genuine
sports lovers can address, in a healthy debate, without external
influences or hidden agendas.
Yes, its called Deaker on Sport... Rastus, yours...
I rest my case - surely the rugby followers have an internet forum
Do you care to explain why the Wellington Rugby Union gives a
toss about the Warriors crowd in Auckland when they are in direct
competition with the Phoenix who play a day later at the same
ground?
I have played and support both sports. Nothing wrong with
Rugby, Football is not in direct competition for fans. This talk
about rugby dying out is completely misguided, the Lions have got
low crowds because of the world cup and lack of competitive games
in Wellington so far this season. Whether we win the world cup or
not will not effect rugby's popularity.
It has been a great start for the Phoenix so far off the
field and I think there is such a big hardcore group of fans
that we will keep getting close to 10000 even if the team doesn't
go well. If the teams gets a few wins in succession it could really
pick up to who knows what levels. Get a home game in the finals and
I reckon it will sell out.
I have Season passes for Rugby and Football for the stadium and I
don't see why you feel the need to completely rip Rugby to pieces.
It's not like they are arch rivals sure New Zealand vs. Ausy rip
into ausy all you want i would support you BUT we are Wellington
the Capital of New Zealand and yet we seem to be treating New
Zealand like an arch rival. SO why can't we support our AB's over
in France as the take on the Rugby world aswell as supporting the
Phoenix I really don't see the problem with it. Those be my
thoughts.
I think the reason a lot of people are taking a dig at Rugby
is the opportunity doesn't come along very often where football is
on the up and rugby is on the down. Football supporters have been
waiting since 1982 for this chance to not "attack" rugby but to try
and assert themselves after countless years of being trodden on by
the rugby dominated media in NZ. If the All Blacks do well in the
World cup we will be struggling to get any media space for our
sport on the TV and in the papers. The bias toward rugby doesn't
fairly represent the amount of support football has in New
Zealand.
I'm not sure you can claim Rugby is on a down. The Air NZ Cup
ain't grand but we're three days from a World Cup.
Personally I can't be bothered with the us vs them mentality. We need the Rugby fans on the Phoenix bangbus so every one slide over and make room for them.
Personally I can't be bothered with the us vs them mentality. We need the Rugby fans on the Phoenix bangbus so every one slide over and make room for them.
its so annoying how the news wanks over the ABS, they will
choke.
i think the lions/rugby in general will get smaller crowds due
to the rwc
You have to understand New Zealand is a rugby nation, you cant just think after two Phoenix games that the whole nation is going to be football crazy, since the Phoenix is based in Wellington not NZ wide.
Maybe we need to declare ourselves to be
the "IFRoW"
Independent Football Republic of Wellington
They could ask Zidane how his mum is...
Rugby will never die. If they lose, the coach gets sacked, there's a big blame fest, then everything goes back to normal. Same as always. If they win, the country goes mad for a while, then everything goes back to normal. The big problem I see with Rugby is the Super 14. It detracts from the regular comp (NPC) and it means the top line players are never really available to play at the lower levels to bring them up to par (eg, provincial and club level). The quality over time goes down because the younger players don't get to learn from the more experienced and more skilled players. The RWC has taken it to the next level and gutted the super 14 to supply players to the World Cup squad.
Wellington has the opportunity to become the heart of NZ soccer, like Auckland is the heart of NZ league. NZ teams need more opportunities to play other top NZ teams and the Chatham cup is a good step in the right direction. Maybe get the league winners to play the Phoenix in an exhibition match? Maybe have Oceania club championships?
I support the rugby as well as the football. I'll also back any of the Kiwi teams who've got the guts and determination to fight for what they want and to never ever ever give up. That's one of the reasons I'm supporting the Phoenix.
Rugby will never die. If they lose, the coach gets sacked, there's a big blame fest, then everything goes back to normal. Same as always. If they win, the country goes mad for a while, then everything goes back to normal. The big problem I see with Rugby is the Super 14. It detracts from the regular comp (NPC) and it means the top line players are never really available to play at the lower levels to bring them up to par (eg, provincial and club level). The quality over time goes down because the younger players don't get to learn from the more experienced and more skilled players. The RWC has taken it to the next level and gutted the super 14 to supply players to the World Cup squad.
Wellington has the opportunity to become the heart of NZ soccer, like Auckland is the heart of NZ league. NZ teams need more opportunities to play other top NZ teams and the Chatham cup is a good step in the right direction. Maybe get the league winners to play the Phoenix in an exhibition match? Maybe have Oceania club championships?
I support the rugby as well as the football. I'll also back any of the Kiwi teams who've got the guts and determination to fight for what they want and to never ever ever give up. That's one of the reasons I'm supporting the Phoenix.
we need all sports lovers to get on board and support the nix but
gotta say a half full stadium for the phoenix had way more passion
then a full stadium for any NPC game iv ever been to.
It does seem that rugby is becoming to top heavy, at present
there is very little interest in the NPC this year with all eyes on
France and that interminably drawn out tournament over there (i
cant believe that they are going into the 2nd week of a world cup
with only about only two vaguely watchable games having been
played in the first round ,mega yawn!)
Rugby will always be the main sport in NZ theres just to much money and national prestige wrapped up in the ABs for that not to be the case,yachting has tried and failed to be a viable alternative in the global recognition stakes even with vast amounts of public funds pumped into it.
It is early days yet but with the rise of football and the continuing niggles within rugby ie size differential between players in the college game,younger professional players now opting to play in Europe rather than stay here ,over complicated rules that no one understands,and the fact that for whatever reasons League seems to be a far more appetizing option to the lower socio economic groupings in NZ particularly when the Warriors are doing well all seems to suggest that Union has a real challenge on its hands if it wants to maintain its self at the top of the sporting code popularity charts.
Kiwi Jambo2007-09-20 11:12:20
Rugby will always be the main sport in NZ theres just to much money and national prestige wrapped up in the ABs for that not to be the case,yachting has tried and failed to be a viable alternative in the global recognition stakes even with vast amounts of public funds pumped into it.
It is early days yet but with the rise of football and the continuing niggles within rugby ie size differential between players in the college game,younger professional players now opting to play in Europe rather than stay here ,over complicated rules that no one understands,and the fact that for whatever reasons League seems to be a far more appetizing option to the lower socio economic groupings in NZ particularly when the Warriors are doing well all seems to suggest that Union has a real challenge on its hands if it wants to maintain its self at the top of the sporting code popularity charts.
Kiwi Jambo2007-09-20 11:12:20
The Lions are giving away tickets to tonight's game any way they
can.
2 for 1 deals and freebies galore.
I can't believe the paper said there had been 19,000 tickets
pre-sold to the wellington taranaki game - cant be anywhere near
that number from what i can see on the telly.
maybe they added an extra zero at the end
You should go see some of the games down at Carisbrook when the scarfies are in full swing!
But yeah I agree with you up here - some of the crowds at the rugby looked half asleep. Was sweet watching us beat the Aussies at cricket though, coming back to get over 300 runs to win...
Dom said today there were 8,900 there, so on that basis 10,100
people paid but decided to stay in and watch some tele instead, or
perhaps they all need to wash their hair
though to be fair, from the noise when i drove past at
7.20 I'd have said there were at least 80 or 90 there
tigers2007-09-21 21:47:17