Good point Boganville, and I assume you agree it is a good thing. Stretford End your point of having a problem if it didnt continue for the next U17 cycle works both way, it didnt happen with the previous U17 squad. it might continue for a while then die off again ...
New Zealand Men's U-17s
NZF also has more money now and a greater profile so there is a greatere incentive to do these things.
I would not be surprised to see this side continue after ther u17 world cup in light of the u20 one been hosted here in 2015, have a nice core of players who have played together for 3 - 4 years.
And if we manage to make the world cup again, I can see these programmes being developed further.
Quick question - does NZF represent young national players and help them organise trials. There seems to be more kiwis trialling and moving about, so this could potentially result in a positive cash flow operation if some form of player management system was organised.
Fuller coffers certainly allow more forward planning and commitment; so I'd like to see the current group play some international teams as well as ASB Youth; and for the next 2015 U17 group to do something similar, and so on.
As to the realities of keeping a U17 group together post a World Cup; good luck! Nice thought but I would expect most to move into ASB/ASB Youth teams or be trying their luck offshore with professional clubs or US colleges. I think you'll find the U20 team we pick for the 2015 World Cup will be based around a group who are not playing with other U20s based in NZ but are either offshore or in ASB or A league.
Qualifying Schedule for 2013 u-17 World Cup Announced - April, Vanuatu:
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2106&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=23ef0b0c8e
PATH TO WORLD CUP GLORY LAID OUT FOR YOUNG ALL WHITES:
Matthew Ridenton will play a part in the Young All Whites campaign in Vanuatu
February 13, 2013
AUCKLAND - The six nations seeking to qualify for the FIFA U-17 World Cup UAE 2013 now know the path they must take to get there after the conducting of the official draw for the OFC U-17 Championship.
The tournament will be held on the island of Espiritu Santo in Vanuatu, from April 17 to 25 and will involve the hosts, Cook Islands, Fiji, New Caledonia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea, who will all be battling it out for the one place on offer at UAE 2013.
Cook Islands qualified for the main event after emerging triumphant over American Samoa, Samoa and Tonga in the preliminary tournament, held in Apia, Samoa from January 22 to 26.
The official draw for the OFC U-17 Championship was conducted today at the OFC headquarters in Auckland, New Zealand, by OFC Head of Competitions David Firisua with the assistance of members of the OFC General Secretariat.
The teams will play each other once in a round robin tournament based on a league system and all matches will be staged at the recently-redeveloped Chapuis Stadium in Luganville. The kick-off times will be confirmed in due course.
New Zealand's Young All Whites are the defending champions of Oceania at U-17 level after earning the title as hosts in 2011 and going on to compete at that year’s FIFA U-17 World Cup in Mexico. They performed well on the global stage, making the Round of 16 thanks largely to a memorable 4-1 win over Uzbekistan before being knocked out by Japan.
A training squad is currently playing in the ASB Youth League under the banner of the Northern-based U-17s and is currently tied for the lead in the northern conference with Auckland City.
OFC U-17 Championship 2013
Match Day 1 – April 17
Papua New Guinea vs. Vanuatu
New Zealand vs. Cook IslandsFiji vs. New Caledonia
Match Day 2 – April 19Cook Islands vs Papua New Guinea
Vanuatu vs. Fiji
New Caledonia vs. New ZealandMatch Day 3 – April 21
Vanuatu vs. New ZealandFiji vs. Papua New Guinea
New Caledonia vs. Cook Islands
Match Day 4 – April 23
Papua New Guinea vs. New Caledonia
New Zealand vs. FijiCook Islands vs. Vanuatu
Match Day 5 – April 25
New Zealand vs. Papua New GuineaCook Islands vs. Fiji
New Caledonia vs. Vanuatu
U-17'S IN NIKE ASIA CAMP 31 JANUARY - 3 FEBRUARY:
NZ u-17 squad likely members Ridenton, Rufer and Jordan (all sons of internationals) selected for recent Nike Asia Camp at the AIS in Canberra comprising the 60 best youth players in Asia-Oceania, including many current junior internationals - and all three Kiwi lads make the tournament final team:
Ridenton selected by Barcelona youth coaches as their MVP! (i.e. the best youth player from this Asia- Oceania group in their view, so he's on Barcelona's radar now!). Sounds like quite a talent:
http://asbpremiership.co.nz/index.php?id=28&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=1817&tx_ttnews[backPid]=3&cHash=7a0cb854e6
"Liam Jordan, Alex Rufer and Matthew Ridenton attended the Nike Asia Camp at the Australian Institute of Sport with 57 of the best under 17 players from Asia.
Japan, Korea, China, Thailand and Australia all had players from their current national age group sides in attendance.
An array of coaches named 28 players to play in the All Star game with Ridenton, Jordan and Rufer all picked.
And the calibre of club youth team coaching expertise read like a who's who of world football with former Scotland international Brian McClair and Eamon Mulvey from Manchester United, Giuliano Nerio Rusca and Paolo Migliavacca from Inter Milan and Marcelo Rospide and Agnello Guimaraes from Corinthians, alongside Barcelona pair Enrichalturo and Andreugonzalvo.
Each club duo named their Most Valuable Player awards at the conclusion of the five day camp with Barcelona naming Matthew Ridenton as their MVP.
Ridenton was presented with Barcelona gear by Enrichalturo and Andreugonzalvo. "
That's pretty impressive. Judged top player. Sign him up ricki
NZ Northern region Under-17 v Auckland City U-17 Kiwitea St 2pm Sunday 24th .... followed by (4 those who may be interested in 2moro's youth) Auckland region Nike Cup (under-15) final 4.30 at Auckland Grammar (semis at 2pm)
Hey Jerzy, who won that Auckland leg of Nike Cup? Keep hearing conflicting stories about how many NZ teams go to Melbourne. Was 2 last year but thought only 1 this year. Anyone know for sure?
don't know for sure but i think it's only 1 - i thought it was only one last time?
anyway Onehunga Sports won the AFF section over three kings.
Def one
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2154&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=46fc4e1441
Onehunga Sports, Waitakere and Wanderers to fight for the Northern Conference spot and Western Suburbs and Cashmere Tech face off for the southern conference spot - then a final between the two conference winners next weekend.
Cashmere Tech won 2-1 after extra time.
Onehunga Sports won the north region playoff (Won 2, Drew 2) Waitakere & Hamilton (Won 1, Drew 1, Lost 2) 3-1 winners over Hamilton in effectively the final.
Final in Christchurch next weekend?
Waitakere played nice football but were small. Apparently 9 of the squad of 16 were a year younger and one two years younger. Some talented players on display among the 3 teams
Waitakere played nice football but were small. Apparently 9 of the squad of 16 were a year younger and one two years younger. Some talented players on display among the 3 teams
Definitely some big talent coming through at the younger age-group levels. If Waitak 13 y/o was one I saw at last year's Weir Rosebowl in Cambridge he is a very promising young player. From looking at Onehunga Sports (Wynrs) goalscorers, they had at least one 13 y/o - also saw him play at Cambridge.
Charles Spragg at Waitak (Thomas Spragg's from the U17's a few years back brother), Max Mata at Onehunga Sports both 2000 born and very good mates. Like Waitak I think the Sports team had 4 other 99 born kids
Onehunga Sports won the north region playoff (Won 2, Drew 2) Waitakere & Hamilton (Won 1, Drew 1, Lost 2) 3-1 winners over Hamilton in effectively the final.
Final in Christchurch next weekend?
That's what everyone thought until today when Onehunga said they needed more time! WTF? the fixture is the fixture isn't it?
That's what everyone thought until today when Onehunga said they needed more time! WTF? the fixture is the fixture isn't it?
Not unless Wynton says so...
exactly. Cashmere were arguing with NZ Football that if Onehunga didn't show in Chch this weekend then Cashmere would win by default and go to Aussie on that basis.
Onehunga Sports will play Cashmere Technical at ASB Park in Christchurch on 24th of March at 1pm.
Is there a squad named soon?
Friday.
Friday.
Not all the best players go to NTC.
That is exactly what I am angling at
Squad list anywhere?
Nelson's Cory Brown, currently at Ole Academy in Wellington made the cut, but Ross McPhie, also of Nelson but now at St Kents in Auckland, didn't.
So of the squad, how many were the product of NTC programme I wonder?
Wonder wether McPhie feels he might have been better served going to Auckland school first XI or Wynrs or whatever earlier (to address selection bias against southern players on out-of-sight-out-of-mind basis?)
"Monty Patterson... 16 yr old Eastern Suburbs & Mt Albert Grammar & NZ Under-17 footballer ... after trialling with Ipswich Town
last month has returned home with a two-year youth contract.... He has also been offered a full scholarship to study at Loyola Uni in Chicago when he graduates from school at the end of next year.... 'It's a hard choice but it's not a bad situation to be in.' Former All White coach Kevin Fallon works with Patterson in both school and club teams. 'He has what I call "the eye of the tiger" .'
from East & Bays Courier, March 22
MUPC NZ Final
Onehunga Sports 4 - 0 winners! (4-0 at half time; 2 x 20min halves)
Wynton ruder will be happy
Auckland City FC's inaugural national Under-17 Easter tournament kicks off this Saturday at Avondale's Eastdale Pk with backing from NZF and OCF. It features youth teams from:
Central Utd, Forest Hill Milford, Papakura City, Waitakerie City, Beachlands, East Coats Bays Papatoetoe, Three Kings, Ellerslie, Waitemata City, Onehunga Sports, Albany Utd, Metro Sports, Glenfield Rovers, Fencible, Western Springs, Tauranga City, Otumoetai, Napier City Rovers, Miramar Rangers North Wngtn, Neslon Bays, Cashmere Tech, FC Twenty, Halswell.
Auck City chairman Ivan Vuksich hopes a successful event will signal the opportunity to bring in teams from Australia, the Pacific Islands and elsewhere to future competitions.
NZ under 17 draw looks just as nasty with Cook Island (17th April), New Caledonia (19th), Vanuatu (21st), Fiji (23rd) & Papua New Guinea (25th)
Again where are the teams from Solomon Island and Tahiti. Should not be pulling out. Pull finger Fifa/OFC.
Anyone have the squad?
Pretty sure there was a before qualifying tournament. Best tams got through
Solomons pulled out and I imagine Tahiti did as well as they did with U-20. It's just a bit sad really. How hard is it for cash-upped Fifa to step in in this case
But will the money go to the players or to the heirachy.
A lot of corruption in the islands unfortunately.
squad
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2226&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=fb3d744e27
No liam jordan?
Re Liam Jordan: no real surprise there. NZF scouting via NTCs will be based primarily on 1996/97 years. If he's good enough, he'll get his chance in the next band (1998/99).
Squad lists 6 defenders, 6 midfielders, 6 forwards. Anyone know if that is nominal or reasonably accurate?
Re Liam Jordan: no real surprise there. NZF scouting via NTCs will be based primarily on 1996/97 years. If he's good enough, he'll get his chance in the next band (1998/99).
Squad lists 6 defenders, 6 midfielders, 6 forwards. Anyone know if that is nominal or reasonably accurate?
Fair enough
squad
http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2226&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=fb3d744e27
Other than De Jong, Ridenton and Rufer, I don't know any of those names. I assume the youngers are offspring of the senior namesakes?
Team : http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/index.php?id=11&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=2226&tx_ttnews[backPid]=10&cHash=fb3d744e27
Talked to a couple of parents.
Except for 1 player, who seems exempt because of the surname.If you weren't an Aucklander, they weren't really interested . You were only considered if you were prepared to transfer to Auckland or spend the majority of the time up there.