I like that while the Burgess blog is buried in some obscure part of the Stuff website, Steven Holloway's piece is right there in the main Herald sport section. I think that's what you call a good result.
Only downside is Burgess will get a few more clicks out of it. Nice article by Holloway though.
You can bet Jeremy Ruane is as about as wet as a football ferns piss up in eagerness to get on that list.
I like that while the Burgess blog is buried in some obscure part of the Stuff website, Steven Holloway's piece is right there in the main Herald sport section. I think that's what you call a good result.
Only downside is Burgess will get a few more clicks out of it. Nice article by Holloway though.
Hopefully this helps you sleep at night budgie. WARNING: ACTUAL JOURNALISM
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11166979
I can't let this slip. Any journo whom, even in a private blog, calls someone whom doesn't agree with him, a retard. He has not shown a professional ability.
Next, the Napier trip was the real first time I have been in contact with the YF trip organisers as such. It was brilliant. Done by amateurs in a professional way. Credit where it is due.
As for transparencey, it was I whom did the 19 HNs that travelled to Christchurch. This was done at my own expence and I expect nothing for it, except a bollocking from HN now that it is public knowledge.
What the YF organisers have done and achieved over the last 7 years is a credit to them and all the persons whom have taken part or helped or attended. This blog sking sbout transperency yet it is on this very site 24/7. There are no secrets, no hidden agendas and no one making money out of it from what I have seen. That's what makes it such a brilliant thing.
Aas the article written in spite or was it in jealously? The Dompost have never really been a fan of the Nix nor the YF since day one so it doesn't really surprise me. I don't expect mega positive blindly written pro articles, but I would like to see the occasional balanced and informative article from time to time.
Lastly I am happy to buy the tee shirts etc if that in turn helps the club find another Rojas. That was an awesome thing the YF did. Now Marco is living the dream. Long may it continue.
Andy Wardle (For transparencey of course)
YF Rule, amazing that the tall poppy syndrome would reach to these dizzy heights.
They should be investigating the millions that the Beige Brigade have secretly got in Chatham Island bank accounts instead
You can bet Jeremy Ruane is as about as wet as a football ferns piss up in eagerness to get on that list.
Football Ferns drinking alcohol? Surely not.
The list as it currently sits is for those that aspire to reporting on football as opposed to those commentating events.
Unlike Termy, "my" list is fully public domain and has no IP ownership concerns (in other words feel free to add or change the list as anyone sees fit).
I'd be willing to guess it was Steve Holloway jumping on the potential good press and view counts the Herald could receive from the YF (Because lets face it, nobody else cares).
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11166979
Backhanded compliment to 2B's blog: "occasionally humourus".
Hard to make a call either way with two posts. Statisticians would be having a conniption!
The list as it currently sits is for those that aspire to reporting on football as opposed to those commentating events.
Unlike Termy, "my" list is fully public domain and has no IP ownership concerns (in other words feel free to add or change the list as anyone sees fit).
Can someone link me to the homeless posing journo story?
In other news, I've stopped watching 7 sharp and I don't listen to you on the radio Stanners.
I'd be willing to guess it was Steve Holloway jumping on the potential good press and view counts the Herald could receive from the YF (Because lets face it, nobody else cares).
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11166979
Backhanded compliment to 2B's blog: "occasionally humourus".
Hard to make a call either way with two posts. Statisticians would be having a conniption!
Can someone link me to the homeless posing journo story?
Will be archived on Stuff I guess. It was a hard hitting, no holding back, all stones turned over DP story with our intrepid Dave posing as a homeless beggar on the mean, cold streets of Wellywood (where dreams are made or shattered) to see what the generosity of the most educated city in NZ was like.
Now, what happened to all the shekels that he collected from those philanthropic citizens?
Geopolitical.
(sorry, just had to use that word again)
Can someone link me to the homeless posing journo story?
Will be archived on Stuff I guess. It was a hard hitting, no holding back, all stones turned over DP story with our intrepid Dave posing as a homeless beggar on the mean, cold streets of Wellywood (where dreams are made or shattered) to see what the generosity of the most educated city in NZ was like.
Now, what happened to all the shekels that he collected from those philanthropic citizens?
Geopolitical.
(sorry, just had to use that word again)
What i dont understand is havnt the Doom Post had some sort of marketing tie up with the Phoenix for some time.I seem to recall a number of promotions over the years promoting Phoenix games and events.Yet virtually since we started there have also been articles which have tried to focus on what they consider to be the negative side.
Was a regular reader but stopped when it seemed as if there main focus was to bring the Phoenix down.
I think if we were honest with ourselves we would have to admit that there have been mistakes made over the years but what more could you expect from something whose bet ideas mostly come after consumption of copious amounts of alcohol.
Maybe we should just ignore some of this crap and not give it more legs than it deserves by responding to it on social medis.
does seem odd that a brand which is so uniquely Wellington, and has had success, and doesn't exist anywhere else in the country has the local paper trying to rip it to shreds...
I think that the Dom Post have done plenty of good things for the Phoenix over the years which get ignored by the majority on here. Problem is that as soon as they say anything that is not completely fawining of the club or some of its people (some of it deserved, some of it not) people here get all up in arms - "oh, they are so mean to us and our club".
I think that the Dom Post have done plenty of good things for the Phoenix over the years which get ignored by the majority on here. Problem is that as soon as they say anything that is not completely fawining of the club or some of its people (some of it deserved, some of it not) people here get all up in arms - "oh, they are so mean to us and our club".
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/budgie-on-the-ball/9470873/It-seems-some-fans-are-deluded
"Given I hold a season ticket for the Fever Zone, my opinion comes as a valid Yellow Fever ''member''."
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When has it ever been said that if you buy a ticket in the Fever Zone, you become a member of Yellow Fever? What utter bullshit and he would know that. For seats sold anywhere, including the Fever Zone (an area designed as being slightly 'different' from regular seats) money goes to the club/stadium/ticketek.
JV, that was my first thought on reading that dross. The Fever Zone isn't a YF exclusive zone, but a designated 'PG13' zone, that happens to borrow its name from YF.
If Burgess is so keen to belong to something, perhaps it should be pointed out that for an additional fee, he can buy a Phoenix Membership to go with his season ticket, thus becoming, an Official Wellington Phoenix (Fan) Club Member.
@2ndBest - lolz GGF
I think that the Dom Post have done plenty of good things for the Phoenix over the years which get ignored by the majority on here. Problem is that as soon as they say anything that is not completely fawining of the club or some of its people (some of it deserved, some of it not) people here get all up in arms - "oh, they are so mean to us and our club".
And here is the inevitably disappointing sequel BLOG: "It seems some readers are deluded" http://wp.me/p48SwC-r
I think that the Dom Post have done plenty of good things for the Phoenix over the years which get ignored by the majority on here. Problem is that as soon as they say anything that is not completely fawining of the club or some of its people (some of it deserved, some of it not) people here get all up in arms - "oh, they are so mean to us and our club".
wow just spent about an hour reading what this is all about . I am totally gobsmacked !!! the worst case of trolling I have seen in a while and from a fan!!!
bit late on replying but that blog is a total shambles by dave.
Just for some clarity so you know I aint hiding Hadleigh Turnbull 's the name behind chefmivec
So the outcome is a story in the reputable media highlighting the generous
donation of time and effort by YF organisers. I could almost believe that the
original blog was written by a YF patsy.
I think that the Dom Post have done plenty of good things for the Phoenix over the years which get ignored by the majority on here. Problem is that as soon as they say anything that is not completely fawining of the club or some of its people (some of it deserved, some of it not) people here get all up in arms - "oh, they are so mean to us and our club".
I tend to agree. When we are winning, (The Royal We, being Nix or AW's) they are all over it like a $20 Hooker at three in the morning still waiting for her First trick. When things go pear shaped or even just a bit mehhhhh they are into that too, such as the whole Terry saga. Start getting consistant results again and the love will flow. We do need to remember they are a Newspaper, not a fanzine.
So the outcome is a story in the reputable media highlighting the generous
donation of time and effort by YF organisers. I could almost believe that the
original blog was written by a YF patsy.
I ran on the assumption you regularly gave yourself a rubdown hatter.
I ran on the assumption you regularly gave yourself a rubdown hatter.
And in true, shambolic, Fever fashion - we forgot to mention all the money raised for CanTeen over the years.
I can tell you that your generous purchasing of multiple bandanas (I know I've got several!) raised over $1,200 combined for the 2012 & 2013 appeals. Good effort!
Am I allowed to say that I thought todays Sam Worthington article was ok? It actually felt like there was some balance to it.
I was going to be snarky and mention something similar. All his previews are fine, all have quotes, there's no bias amongst it or anything, he writes well. I think the main place people have issue with him is when he writes opinion pieces, or reports on rumours?
Am I allowed to say that I thought todays Sam Worthington article was ok? It actually felt like there was some balance to it.
Wrong section but this is where everyone was jumping on Sam Worthington for his Ricki article, so I ask you - Is this bad journalism?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11169055
No quotes, "sources" - makes a few assumptions, potentially slanderous if not true - isn't this basically the same as the Ricki article?
For clarity - I don't think either is bad journalism, and unnamed sources are all part of the gig - but surely there has to be consistency here, or am I missing a crucial part which isn't "Oh, we don't like Sam Worthington"?
I said same thing few weeks ago. Theres just anti dom post sentiment here and ppl without journalism degrees or experience trying to pass judgement. No quotes and just saying a source said is used all over the sporting world. Unfortunately its a small pond here and its amplified
The press council complaint was rather silly
Wrong section but this is where everyone was jumping on Sam Worthington for his Ricki article, so I ask you - Is this bad journalism?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11169055
No quotes, "sources" - makes a few assumptions, potentially slanderous if not true - isn't this basically the same as the Ricki article?
For clarity - I don't think either is bad journalism, and unnamed sources are all part of the gig - but surely there has to be consistency here, or am I missing a crucial part which isn't "Oh, we don't like Sam Worthington"?
Thanks for the link. If I was Smith I'd be rather pissed off.
I didn't realise we had to have journo degrees to be able comment on the standard of an article. Perhaps we shouldn't comment on things like earthquakes and GMOs unless we are qualified geophysicists or gene jockeys.
If unnamed sources are part of the gig and are all you use, do you think that makes it credible?
Try doing that for any serious work (reports, reviews, academic papers).
Better shut this place down then because only Pav would be able to comment.
