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On the other hand, City's NYL > NL progression remains the worst of any team.

While its not "progression" do you know how many of the ACFC youth players have gone on to play NL or higher with other clubs?

A fair few, though I'd say that tells you more about Auckland's size as a city and the fact that so many players play NL than them doing anything special. The ACFC NYL team has always seemed fairly separate from the ACFC NL team.

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NYL players this season who have been in NL matchday squads at some stage (highlighted = played)


Auckland City: Cameron Brown (GK)

Waitakere United: Luca Taylor (GK), Matthew Wood, Niko Steinmetz, Hayden Aish, Tawanda Marowa, Jacob Mechell

Eastern Suburbs: Nicholas Milner (GK), Campbell Strong, Kingsley Sinclair, Matthew Garbett, Jack Duncan

Hamilton Wanderers: Bayley Foster, Steffano Riley, Jackson Hawke (GK), William Stephen, Stafford Dowling

Hawke’s Bay United: Wilson McCullough (GK), Josh Murphy, Luis Toomey

Team Wellington: Zac Dean (GK), Jake Williams

Wellington Phoenix reserves: Boyd Curry, Kurtis Mogg, Oskar van Hattum, Jackson Manuel, Henry Hamilton, Alexander Paulsen (GK)

Tasman United: Joe Robertson (GK), Simon Wilson, Konan Hey, Cristian Benitez

Canterbury United Dragons: Max Collingwood (GK), Haris Zeb, Jacob Richards, Paul Richnow

Southern United: Stewart Catto (GK), Thomas Poole (GK), Tim O’Farrell, Rory Findlay, Alex Cox, Adam Hewson, Oliver Colloty, Joseph Carvell


NYL-age players who were named in NL squads this season (all have played, bar Ronaldo Wilkins at Tasman, who doesn’t appear to have transferred to them in the end and Tuyi Byamana, Caleb Emmens, and Dino Botica at the Wellington Phoenix reserves)

Auckland City:

Waitakere United: Oscar Browne, Luke Jorgensen, Alex Connor-Maclean, Lachie McIsaac, Matt Conroy, Dane Schnell

Eastern Suburbs: Alex Clayton, Kelvin Kalua, Nando Pijnaker, Dalton Wilkins, Dom Wooldridge, Eli Just, Callum McCowatt

Hamilton Wanderers:

Hawke’s Bay United: Jorge Akers, Karan Mandair, Ben Lack, Jordan Lamb, Dillan Nanayakkara, Alex Britton (GK)

Team Wellington:

Wellington Phoenix reserves: Sam Sutton, Ben Waine, Taci Kumsuz, Callan Elliot, Ronan Wynne, Zac Jones, Liam Moore, Gianni Stensness, Calvin Harris, Willem Ebbinge, Max Batchelor, Stephen Sprowson, Noah Tipene-Clegg, Liberato Cacace, Kieran Richards, Sarpreet Singh, Owen Smith, Ollie Valentine

Tasman United: Ahmed Othman, Keegan Smith, Ronaldo Wilkins*

Canterbury United: Seth Clark, Luke Tongue

Southern United: Ben Deeley

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the observer wrote:

you obviously never read what was written.

Over the course of the season they have more Nz eligible players and have thrown in youth products which is a big change for Acfc than using foreign players so much 

Yipe I read what you wrote. To quote you -

"Both Auckland and Eastern Suburbs dominating the league , should see them in the finals.

Good to see both teams full of Nz youth players,most of whom have came through a non Nz football processed coaching set up (Ole and Suburbs)"

and below (referring to ACFC)

"Thier starting 11’s have had more eligible Nz players and have a squad with a fair few.

Also seen to have more coming in from the youth team now"

Yet when I look at the NZ eligible players they had starting in Handy round January 12-13th, they had the equal lowest with Southern United.

Then Andrew Voerman far out does me with a detailed breakdown of NZ eligible player and NYL stats at the various Handy clubs. To quote him "City's NYL > NL progression remains the worst of any team."

I see ACFC signed a Colombian winger Omar Guardiola (who's already played for Southern & Tasman?), and a Swedish striker earlier this month.

ACFC are getting better, but they are still one of the worst clubs for bringing through young NZ talent. If they seek to use mostly imported overseas talent to win trophies that's their perogative, as long as no one says they are doing the opposite. On the other hand likes of Eastern Suburbs ("Ole's summer academy"), are doing a really good job giving young NZ talent a chance. 

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coochiee wrote:

the observer wrote:

you obviously never read what was written.

Over the course of the season they have more Nz eligible players and have thrown in youth products which is a big change for Acfc than using foreign players so much 

I see ACFC signed a Colombian winger Omar Guardiola (who's already played for Southern & Tasman?), and a Swedish striker earlier this month.

Omar is a Kiwi product, even if he's Colombian by heritage. Grew up in Blenheim.
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A bit late posting with Canterbury United defeating WeeNixs 2 - 1 with a double to Stephen Hoyle, with Team Wellington playing out a scoreless draw with Southern moves the Dragon's back into third place.

Wheels would have to fall off bigh time for us not to make the play off nows.

Do not forgot next game is at home to Auckland City this Saturday at 2pm (was orginally Sunday).

  P W D L F A +/- Pts
Auckland City FC 12 12 0 0 32 11 21 36
Eastern Suburbs 13 9 1 3 36 10 26 28
Canterbury United 13 7 3 3 24 24 0 24
Team Wellington 12 6 4 2 25 15 10 22
Hamilton Wanderers 13 5 2 6 25 25 0 17
Hawke's Bay Utd 13 4 3 6 28 35 -7 15
Southern United 12 4 2 6 15 20 -5 14
Tasman United 13 3 2 8 17 28 -11 11
Waitakere United 13 3 1 9 17 28 -11 10
Wellington Phoenix Reserves 12 1 0 11 12 35 -23 3
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AllWhites82 wrote:

Wheels would have to fall off bigh time for us not to make the play off nows.

Realistically, making the play-offs would involve only one more match- away to either Auckland City or Eastern Suburbs
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Le Mur wrote:

Global Game wrote:

Saw on another thread (affiliation fees) that there is a proposed change of ownership for Canterbury United. Is there any information publicly available on this? If not, what’s the drill?

I'm not aware of any publicity about this (on purpose?), but all Christchurch clubs know of the Special GM to be held on 30 January 2019 to decide this. Summarised details are:

Remit 1 - "In line with the Mainland Football Game Delivery Model that has been developed and in circulation for the last 18 months the Board of Canterbury United and Mainland Football are proposing that Canterbury United is merged into Mainland Football. The Game Delivery Model clearly articulates that a High-Performance arm of Mainland football is set up to manage the operations and delivery of the Canterbury United teams playing in various competitions. The restructure aims to align and simplify the complexities that currently exist."

Remit 2 - "That a Canterbury United Membership card is developed that will provide benefits to the 10000 members/supporters. This is seen as an exciting opportunity to provide something back to our members in recognition of their ongoing support."

Membership card offers Free entry to all Dragons, Pride and Youth home games; Ultra-Sport offer of 10% off on-line purchases; Hanmer Springs agreed, offer will be confirmed in February;  Fuel offer with BP - “Club Car Offer” 20c/litre and Individual offer of at least 10c per litre; Shoe Clinic offer to be confirmed in February.

Increased Canterbury United fees:

2019 Fees - Senior $17.00 (Ages 19+), Youth $12.00 (Ages 13-18), Junior $7.00 (Ages 12 and Under).

2020 Fees - Senior $20.00 (Ages 19+), Youth $15.00 (Ages 13-18), Junior $10.00 (Ages 12 and Under).

Contact your club for more details.

Righto team, the meeting was tonight, what's the goss? 

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VimFuego wrote:

Le Mur wrote:

Global Game wrote:

Saw on another thread (affiliation fees) that there is a proposed change of ownership for Canterbury United. Is there any information publicly available on this? If not, what’s the drill?

I'm not aware of any publicity about this (on purpose?), but all Christchurch clubs know of the Special GM to be held on 30 January 2019 to decide this. Summarised details are:

Remit 1 - "In line with the Mainland Football Game Delivery Model that has been developed and in circulation for the last 18 months the Board of Canterbury United and Mainland Football are proposing that Canterbury United is merged into Mainland Football. The Game Delivery Model clearly articulates that a High-Performance arm of Mainland football is set up to manage the operations and delivery of the Canterbury United teams playing in various competitions. The restructure aims to align and simplify the complexities that currently exist."

Remit 2 - "That a Canterbury United Membership card is developed that will provide benefits to the 10000 members/supporters. This is seen as an exciting opportunity to provide something back to our members in recognition of their ongoing support."

Membership card offers Free entry to all Dragons, Pride and Youth home games; Ultra-Sport offer of 10% off on-line purchases; Hanmer Springs agreed, offer will be confirmed in February;  Fuel offer with BP - “Club Car Offer” 20c/litre and Individual offer of at least 10c per litre; Shoe Clinic offer to be confirmed in February.

Increased Canterbury United fees:

2019 Fees - Senior $17.00 (Ages 19+), Youth $12.00 (Ages 13-18), Junior $7.00 (Ages 12 and Under).

2020 Fees - Senior $20.00 (Ages 19+), Youth $15.00 (Ages 13-18), Junior $10.00 (Ages 12 and Under).

Contact your club for more details.

Righto team, the meeting was tonight, what's the goss? 

Yes - done deal as above. Majority votes. Communication to come out of Mainland soon.

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VimFuego wrote:

Le Mur wrote:

Global Game wrote:

Saw on another thread (affiliation fees) that there is a proposed change of ownership for Canterbury United. Is there any information publicly available on this? If not, what’s the drill?

I'm not aware of any publicity about this (on purpose?), but all Christchurch clubs know of the Special GM to be held on 30 January 2019 to decide this. Summarised details are:

Remit 1 - "In line with the Mainland Football Game Delivery Model that has been developed and in circulation for the last 18 months the Board of Canterbury United and Mainland Football are proposing that Canterbury United is merged into Mainland Football. The Game Delivery Model clearly articulates that a High-Performance arm of Mainland football is set up to manage the operations and delivery of the Canterbury United teams playing in various competitions. The restructure aims to align and simplify the complexities that currently exist."

Remit 2 - "That a Canterbury United Membership card is developed that will provide benefits to the 10000 members/supporters. This is seen as an exciting opportunity to provide something back to our members in recognition of their ongoing support."

Membership card offers Free entry to all Dragons, Pride and Youth home games; Ultra-Sport offer of 10% off on-line purchases; Hanmer Springs agreed, offer will be confirmed in February;  Fuel offer with BP - “Club Car Offer” 20c/litre and Individual offer of at least 10c per litre; Shoe Clinic offer to be confirmed in February.

Increased Canterbury United fees:

2019 Fees - Senior $17.00 (Ages 19+), Youth $12.00 (Ages 13-18), Junior $7.00 (Ages 12 and Under).

2020 Fees - Senior $20.00 (Ages 19+), Youth $15.00 (Ages 13-18), Junior $10.00 (Ages 12 and Under).

Contact your club for more details.

Righto team, the meeting was tonight, what's the goss? 

Coastal not there last night?

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This is the first port of call for all gossip isn't it? Well, it was until the Canterbury Transfer Facebook page came out... 

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Today's result: Canterbury United 0 Auckland City 1 HT 0 - 0

The Dragon's competed well with Auckland and had the better of the scoring chances before the break, with Auckland scoring in the 68th minutes, with Dragon's then having chances to earn at least a share of the points.

First time we have failed to score this season. Away to Hamilton Wanderers next week then (live on Sky) home to Team Wellington on 17 Feb at 2pm before us final two games - both away to Waitakere and then Tasman United.

Will paste updated table after round completed tomorrow.

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Today's results

Hawkes Bay 3 Team Wellington 6 HT 1 - 4

Southern United 2 Waitakere United 1 HT 0 - 1

Wellington Phoenix Reserves 1 Tasman 1 HT 0 - 0

Eastern Suburbs 5 Hamilton Wanderers 1 HT 2 - 1

So with Team Wellington winning today - 2 goals from Claps,  Dragons drop back to fourth place with our closest rivals coming into this weekend, Hamilton Wanderers and Hawkes Bay both losing Southern have now moved into 5th place, seven points behind us.us.

  P W D L F A +/- Pts
Auckland City FC 13 13 0 0 33 11 22 39
Eastern Suburbs 14 10 1 3 43 12 31 31
Team Wellington 13 7 4 2 31 18 13 25
Canterbury United 14 7 3 4 24 25 -1 24
Southern United 13 5 2 6 17 21 -4 17
Hamilton Wanderers 14 5 2 7 26 30 -4 17
Hawke's Bay Utd 14 4 3 7 31 41 -10 15
Tasman United 14 3 3 8 18 29 -11 12
Waitakere United 14 3 1 10 18 30 -12 10
Wellington Phoenix Reserves 13 1 1 11 13 36 -23 4

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Just a bit of train spotting............but your table is different to the official NZF table. Hamilton Wanderers and Eastern Suburbs have different goals for and against and therefore goal difference. This puts Wanderers in 5th place just ahead of Southern on goals scored (26 compared to 17).

                      

               F      A       GD

ES          41    11      30

HW         26    30      -4

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Bystander wrote:

Just a bit of train spotting............but your table is different to the official NZF table. Hamilton Wanderers and Eastern Suburbs have different goals for and against and therefore goal difference. This puts Wanderers in 5th place just ahead of Southern on goals scored (26 compared to 17).

                      

               F      A       GD

ES          41    11      30

HW         26    30      -4

You are correct on the goal different my error

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Result from today's catch-up game:

Team Wellington 3 Wellington Phoenix Reserves 0

Updated table below - have added the possible points for each team in right hand column.

  P W D L F A +/- Pts Poss. Pts
Auckland City FC 13 13 0 0 33 11 22 39 54
Eastern Suburbs 14 10 1 3 41 11 30 31 43
Team Wellington 14 8 4 2 34 18 16 28 40
Canterbury United 14 7 3 4 24 25 -1 24 36
Hamilton Wanderers 14 5 2 7 26 30 -4 17 29
Southern United 13 5 2 6 17 21 -4 17 32
Hawke's Bay Utd 14 4 3 7 31 41 -10 15 27
Tasman United 14 3 3 8 18 29 -11 12 24
Waitakere United 14 3 1 10 18 30 -12 10 22
Wellington Phoenix Reserves 14 1 1 12 13 39 -26 4 16

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Don't forget to to get down to English Park at 2pm on Sunday to watch the Dragon's play their last home league game of the season against Team Wellington.

We need the win if we are to press for a home semi-final in the play-offs.

Arron Clapham has been named in the TW squad.

Justin Lucas Memorial trophy on the line for our player of the day and Dragon's likely to sport black armbands as mark of respect to former board chairman David Cox who passed recently.

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Dragon's into the semi-finals with a good 2 - 1 win over Team Wellington. After a scoreless opening half Gary Ogilvie put Canterbury United infront from the penalty spot in the 51st minutes with TW equalishing soon after. Seth Clark scoring the winner with two minutes of normal time to play. Southern United came from a goal down to edge Tasman United 2 - 1. Once late game completed will post updated table.

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Late game: Auckland City 3 Hamilton Wanderers 2

Updated table

  P W D L F A +/- Pts
Auckland City FC 16 15 1 0 39 15 24 46
Eastern Suburbs 15 10 1 4 42 14 28 31
Team Wellington 16 9 4 3 38 21 17 31
Canterbury United 16 9 3 4 30 28 2 30
Southern United 15 6 3 6 20 23 -3 21
Hamilton Wanderers 16 5 2 9 30 37 -7 17
Hawke's Bay Utd 14 4 3 7 31 41 -10 15
Tasman United 15 3 3 9 19 31 -12 12
Waitakere United 14 3 1 10 18 30 -12 10
Wellington Phoenix Reserves 15 1 1 13 14 41 -27 4

Bit of a break now (due to the OFC) before our final two games - both away: Waitakere 3rd March and then Tasman 10th March

Semi-finals being played in the weekend of 23 / 24 March - 1st vs. 4th on 23rd with 2nd vs. 3rd on the 24th. Final in 31st March. 

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Dragon's into the semi-finals with a good 2 - 1 win over Team Wellington. After a scoreless opening half Gary Ogilvie put Canterbury United infront from the penalty spot in the 51st minutes with TW equalishing soon after. Seth Clark scoring the winner with two minutes of normal time to play. Southern United came from a goal down to edge Tasman United 2 - 1. Once late game completed will post updated table.

 

What a goal by Seth Clark!  He was hungry from the bench.  Great sub!

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onthemoney wrote:

AllWhites82 wrote:

Dragon's into the semi-finals with a good 2 - 1 win over Team Wellington. After a scoreless opening half Gary Ogilvie put Canterbury United infront from the penalty spot in the 51st minutes with TW equalishing soon after. Seth Clark scoring the winner with two minutes of normal time to play. Southern United came from a goal down to edge Tasman United 2 - 1. Once late game completed will post updated table.

 

What a goal by Seth Clark!  He was hungry from the bench.  Great sub!

Hopefully he displayed the same finishing touch at the Under 20 Training Camp during the week.

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canterbury looking good for a home final with that run in. Tasman will arguable be the tougher challenge.

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Late game: Auckland City 3 Hamilton Wanderers 2

Bit of a break now (due to the OFC) before our final two games - both away: Waitakere 3rd March and then Tasman 10th March

Semi-finals being played in the weekend of 23 / 24 March - 1st vs. 4th on 23rd with 2nd vs. 3rd on the 24th. Final in 31st March. 

Hey I thought the Tasman game was the 17th March? 

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Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

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Bystander wrote:

Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

you are taking the p155 with that question aren't you?

with the final placings remember that goal difference doesn't count it comes down to head to head record - so the table is currently wrong and TW should be in second

I don't think that'll matter though as I think all teams will finish on different points like this

ACFC 52

Suburbs 40

Canterbury 36

Team Welly 30

which would give semis's of ACFC v TW & Suburbs v Canterbury

Out of interest this is the head to head record

Eastern Suburbs v Team Wellington - Team Wellington 2 wins to 0

Eastern Suburbs v Canterbury United - Eastern Suburbs 2 wins to 0

Canterbury United v Team Wellington - Canterbury United 1 win & 1 draw

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Bystander wrote:

Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

you are taking the p155 with that question aren't you?

with the final placings remember that goal difference doesn't count it comes down to head to head record - so the table is currently wrong and TW should be in second

I don't think that'll matter though as I think all teams will finish on different points like this

ACFC 52

Suburbs 40

Canterbury 36

Team Welly 30

which would give semis's of ACFC v TW & Suburbs v Canterbury

Out of interest this is the head to head record

Eastern Suburbs v Team Wellington - Team Wellington 2 wins to 0

Eastern Suburbs v Canterbury United - Eastern Suburbs 2 wins to 0

Canterbury United v Team Wellington - Canterbury United 1 win & 1 draw

So Team Welly are going to suffer a point deduction between now and the start of the playoffs?    : )

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Bystander wrote:
Bystander wrote:

Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

you are taking the p155 with that question aren't you?

with the final placings remember that goal difference doesn't count it comes down to head to head record - so the table is currently wrong and TW should be in second

I don't think that'll matter though as I think all teams will finish on different points like this

ACFC 52

Suburbs 40

Canterbury 36

Team Welly 30

which would give semis's of ACFC v TW & Suburbs v Canterbury

Out of interest this is the head to head record

Eastern Suburbs v Team Wellington - Team Wellington 2 wins to 0

Eastern Suburbs v Canterbury United - Eastern Suburbs 2 wins to 0

Canterbury United v Team Wellington - Canterbury United 1 win & 1 draw

So Team Welly are going to suffer a point deduction between now and the start of the playoffs?    : )

aye they'll play the defender that Andrew Voerman said they've signed that they claim to know nothing about!!!!

obvs meant 33 (or even if they manage 36 pts will still be in 4th)

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Bystander wrote:

Bystander wrote:

Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

you are taking the p155 with that question aren't you?

with the final placings remember that goal difference doesn't count it comes down to head to head record - so the table is currently wrong and TW should be in second

I don't think that'll matter though as I think all teams will finish on different points like this

ACFC 52

Suburbs 40

Canterbury 36

Team Welly 30

which would give semis's of ACFC v TW & Suburbs v Canterbury

Out of interest this is the head to head record

Eastern Suburbs v Team Wellington - Team Wellington 2 wins to 0

Eastern Suburbs v Canterbury United - Eastern Suburbs 2 wins to 0

Canterbury United v Team Wellington - Canterbury United 1 win & 1 draw

So Team Welly are going to suffer a point deduction between now and the start of the playoffs?    : )

aye they'll play the defender that Andrew Voerman said they've signed that they claim to know nothing about!!!!

obvs meant 33 (or even if they manage 36 pts will still be in 4th)

Of course, TeeDubs can't actually end up on 36 points. 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, or 37, yes, but not 36!

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el grapadura wrote:

Bystander wrote:

Bystander wrote:

Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

you are taking the p155 with that question aren't you?

with the final placings remember that goal difference doesn't count it comes down to head to head record - so the table is currently wrong and TW should be in second

I don't think that'll matter though as I think all teams will finish on different points like this

ACFC 52

Suburbs 40

Canterbury 36

Team Welly 30

which would give semis's of ACFC v TW & Suburbs v Canterbury

Out of interest this is the head to head record

Eastern Suburbs v Team Wellington - Team Wellington 2 wins to 0

Eastern Suburbs v Canterbury United - Eastern Suburbs 2 wins to 0

Canterbury United v Team Wellington - Canterbury United 1 win & 1 draw

So Team Welly are going to suffer a point deduction between now and the start of the playoffs?    : )

aye they'll play the defender that Andrew Voerman said they've signed that they claim to know nothing about!!!!

obvs meant 33 (or even if they manage 36 pts will still be in 4th)

Of course, TeeDubs can't actually end up on 36 points. 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, or 37, yes, but not 36!

aye I realised that late last night and was hoping I'd get to edit it before someone pointed it out!!!!

anyway I reckon TW will end up on 34 (ie win 1 of their last 2 games) and play Auckland in the semi final

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You know this forum lives for pedantry!

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Bystander wrote:

Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

Heard that if Eastern suburbs and TW end up on same points TW would go through as this competition goes on head to head results not goal difference. Could be wrong.

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Mossimo wrote:

Bystander wrote:

Eastern Suburbs play Waitakere & Southern at home and Tasman away.

Canterbury play Tasman and Waitakere both away.

Team Wellington play Auckland at home and Hamilton away.

Considering the above fixtures - Eastern Suburbs currently are equal on points with Team Wellington and 1 point ahead of Canterbury, have a game in hand on the other two and a vastly better goal difference - I would say that Eastern Suburbs are in the best position to join Auckland with a home semifinal. At least it is in their own hands while it is not for Canterbury and Team Wellington.

As an aside would Auckland through using "squad rotation" consider giving 3 points to Team Wellington with the aim of avoiding playing Wellington again in the semifinal?

Heard that if Eastern suburbs and TW end up on same points TW would go through as this competition goes on head to head results not goal difference. Could be wrong.

no you are right - its a typical NZF thing, league is decided by GD, but top 4 decided by Head to Head!!!

So current legue table should really have TW in second place

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  1. 21.6 The results of league matches will be recorded in a league table. The ranking of each Participant shall be determined as follows:
    1. 21.6.1 Greatest number of points obtained in all league matches;
    2. 21.6.2 Goal difference in all league matches;
    3. 21.6.3 Greatest number of goals scored in all league matches.
  2. 21.7 At the conclusion of the league, the top four placed Participants excluding the Wellington Phoenix shall qualify for The Championship. In the event of two or more of the Participants having equal points, their respective placing on the league table shall be determined as follows:
    1. 21.7.1 The head to head results between the teams equal on points.
    2. 21.7.2 The goal difference from the matches played between the teams equal on points.
  3. 21.8 If, after applying the above criteria, any two or more teams are still equal, their respective placing on the league table shall be determined as follows:
    1. 21.8.1 Goal difference in all league matches;
    2. 21.8.2 Greatest number of goals scored in all league matches.
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Canterbury United back in action today with a good 4 - 1 win away to Waitakere United - scorers Adam Thurston 2 incl pen, Tom Schwarz, Maksym Kowa, which moves the Dragons into third place. Auckland and Eastern Suburbs have locked in home semi's.

Other results:

Southern United 2 Hawkes Bay 2

Tasman Utd 1 Eastern Suburbs 3

Team Wellington 1 Auckland City 2

Wellington Phoenix 3 Hamilton Wanderers 2

  P W D L F A +/- Pts
Auckland City FC 17 16 1 0 41 16 25 49
Eastern Suburbs 17 12 1 4 50 16 34 37
Canterbury United 17 10 3 4 34 29 5 33
Team Wellington 17 9 4 4 39 23 16 31
Southern United 17 6 5 6 24 27 -3 23
Hamilton Wanderers 17 5 2 10 32 40 -8 17
Hawke's Bay Utd 17 4 5 8 36 51 -15 17
Waitakere United 17 4 1 12 27 41 -14 13
Tasman United 17 3 4 10 21 35 -14 13
Wellington Phoenix Reserves 17 2 2 13 19 45 -26 8

Our final game is away to Tasman with Team Wellington away to Hamilton Wanderers so a draw will be enough for the Dragons to claim third (as we have the better head to head results agsinst the TW's) meaning we will play Eastern Suburbs on Sunday 24 March at Riverhills Park.

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AllWhites82 wrote:

Canterbury United back in action today with a good 4 - 1 win away to Waitakere United - scorers Adam Thurston 2 incl pen, Tom Schwarz, Maksym Kowa, which moves the Dragons into third place. Auckland and Eastern Suburbs have locked in home semi's.

Our final game is away to Tasman with Team Wellington away to Hamilton Wanderers so a draw will be enough for the Dragons to claim third (as we have the better head to head results agsinst the TW's) meaning we will play Eastern Suburbs on Sunday 24 March at Riverhills Park.

Going to be uphill for you to beat Suburbs from what I saw today. Down 1-0 , a red card penalty got you going and made it easy, but the long ball over the top tactics won't do it in a semi v them. Good luck, I love an upset but might be a bridge to far.

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Media release from NZ Football

Saturday 16 March, 2019

ISPS Handa Premiership – Tasman vs. Canterbury match cancelled

New Zealand Football (NZF) has taken the decision to cancel the match between Tasman United and the Canterbury United Dragons in the ISPS Handa Premiership tomorrow following the act of terrorism which occurred on Friday afternoon in Christchurch.

Following extensive discussions with both teams today, it has been decided to not proceed with Match 89, which was scheduled to be played at Trafalgar Park with kick off at 2pm.

Daniel Farrow, the Competitions and Events Director of NZ Football, said it was a unanimous decision and it was the right move for the people of Christchurch.

“With the support of both teams and stakeholders in Nelson, NZF has made the decision to cancel the match as a mark of respect for the events that have occurred in Christchurch,” he said. “This will allow staff, players and fans to remain in their community and with their family and friends in Christchurch during this difficult time.”

The match shall be deemed a 0 - 0 draw with points shared in accordance with the ISPS Handa Premiership Regulations.

All of the other matches in the final Match Week of the ISPS Handa Premiership will proceed as scheduled with both teams observing a minutes’ silence before kick-off to honour the lives lost in the attack.

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So that secures the 3rd spot for Canterbury. 

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el grapadura wrote:

So that secures the 3rd spot for Canterbury. 

Yes but Canterbury was always going to be in 3rd as had the better head to head with Team Wellington, if both teams finished the league level on points.

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AllWhites82 wrote:

el grapadura wrote:

So that secures the 3rd spot for Canterbury. 

Yes but Canterbury was always going to be in 3rd as had the better head to head with Team Wellington, if both teams finished the league level on points.

That's assuming that Tasman wouldn't have beaten them

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Atta Elayyan who was a Canterbury and NZ futsal representative died in the recent mosque shootings. There was another young Dragons player who survived but lost both his cousin and his uncle. There's Other local footballers are also believed to have died. Tragic stuff!

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Round 18 Results and Final Table

Auckland City 5 Waitakere United 2

Eastern Suburbs 3 Southern United 0

Hamilton Wanderers 2 Team Wellington 4

Tasman United 0 Canterbury United (awarded result)

Wellington Phoenix Reserves 3 Hawkes Bays 1

Dragon's finished third under the league rules when teams are level on points due to have the better head to head results with TW - a win and a draw.

AMMENDED: Both semi-final kicking off at 2:35 on on Sky TV, will be Eastern Suburbs vs Canterbury United

on 23rd March and Auckland vs. Team Wellington on 24th with the winner's to play final on 31st. 

  P W D L F A +/- Pts Poss. Pts
Auckland City FC 18 17 1 0 46 18 28 52 52
Eastern Suburbs 18 13 1 4 53 16 37 40 40
Canterbury United 18 10 4 4 34 29 5 34 34
Team Wellington 18 10 4 4 43 25 18 34 34
Southern United 18 6 5 7 24 30 -6 23 23
Hamilton Wanderers 18 5 2 11 34 44 -10 17 17
Hawke's Bay Utd 18 4 5 9 38 55 -17 17 17
Waitakere United 18 4 1 13 29 46 -17 13 13
Tasman United 18 3 5 10 22 36 -14 14 14
Wellington Phoenix Reserves 18 3 2 13 22 46 -24 11 11
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one_eyed_nik wrote:


Atta Elayyan who was a Canterbury and NZ futsal representative died in the recent mosque shootings. There was another young Dragons player who survived but lost both his cousin and his uncle. There's Other local footballers are also believed to have died. Tragic stuff!

Seems four local footballers and coaches died, two senior, two junior:

https://www.facebook.com/MainlandFootball/posts/14...

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/football-soccer/news/ar...

http://cufc.co.nz/tariq-omar/

ATTA ELAYYAN (33), TARIQ OMAR (24, Christchurch United and Christchurch Football Academy junior coach)

SAYYAD MILNE (14, Cashmere High School goalie)Q and an unidentified 16 year-old goalie (junior)

"Atta Elayyan...The 33-year-old tackled him to the ground while being shot at twice.

....The football community had also lost three other players including a 16-year-old goal keeper who tackled the gunman to the ground before he was punched in the face and shot and they were remembered too, he said.

Police had also told him Elayyan was also one of three people who tried to stop the gunman.

"He got shot and then got back up again and got shot again and then got finished off. And that's the kind of guy he was... When he was playing for his country, he was the guy that when we were losing he just would never give up - that was the kind of guy he was."

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