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Not often you see a different player take the 'retake' penalty is it? I may have seen it before, but I can't recall.

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It's not the first time Boyd has had a penalty saved and then missed the follow up as well.

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To me twhe fact that you step up and take it shows confidence. Obviously he needs to practice more but when the likes of Krishna or Dzeko miss about 50 percent of their pens it shows that not everyone is a specialist 9l

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90 mins and a yellow in 2-2 draw verus Rizespor.

Ankara still not 100% safe from relegation with 3 games left. Unfortunately conceded equaliser late at 91 mins.

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84 mins and a goal in a 2-1 loss at Istanbul Basaksehir (2nd on the table).

Ankaragucu are 4 pts above the drop zone with 2 games left, so relegation is still possible.

Host Sivasspor this weekend who are only just above them on the table. So hopefully get some points from that.

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Thats a cracking goal...as good an individual piece of skill you would see in any league.

Boyds loan spell in Turkey has turned out really well for him. Its not easy changing clubs in mid season...let alone going right across Europe from Portugal to Turkey, to a completely different culture/language etc. Yet he has performed consistently with goals and assists.

The European transfer windows start to open within the next month. Boyd has truly put himself in the shop window with his performances in Turkey. He would have been scouted for sure. I would expect he will be moving to somewhere higher up the food chain. IMO opinion Boyd could play for a midtable German or French club, no problem.Last season Marseille paid 13 million euros for a winger from Red Star Belgrade. Boyd is 10 times better than this guy.

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austin11 wrote:

Thats a cracking goal...as good an individual piece of skill you would see in any league.

Boyds loan spell in Turkey has turned out really well for him. Its not easy changing clubs in mid season...let alone going right across Europe from Portugal to Turkey, to a completely different culture/language etc. Yet he has performed consistently with goals and assists.

The European transfer windows start to open within the next month. Boyd has truly put himself in the shop window with his performances in Turkey. He would have been scouted for sure. I would expect he will be moving to somewhere higher up the food chain. IMO opinion Boyd could play for a midtable German or French club, no problem.Last season Marseille paid 13 million euros for a winger from Red Star Belgrade. Boyd is 10 times better than this guy.

Happy for Boyd. Obviously worked hard and been driven for his success.

However if above happens he will surely get closer to a Team USA callup. That would be huge pity from a future AWs perspective.

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Just read this weeks Flying Kiwis!

“By the way, the USA name their squad for the Gold Cup in a couple weeks, with that tournament a month away. Here’s hoping that nobody involved in selecting that lot watches Turkish football and they can keep on picking mud MLS veterans instead.”

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With Oceania getting guaranteed entry into WC - surely we are more attractive now... especially since they might open up the next WC to more teams early!

Good goal - glad to see another kiwi going well overseas.

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

With Oceania getting guaranteed entry into WC - surely we are more attractive now... especially since they might open up the next WC to more teams early!

Good goal - glad to see another kiwi going well overseas.

An expanded world cup means CONCACAF get six spots (up from 3.5), which means the US are a shoe-in. I don't think there's any scenario where NZ are more likely to qualify for the world cup than the US.  

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

With Oceania getting guaranteed entry into WC - surely we are more attractive now... especially since they might open up the next WC to more teams early!

Good goal - glad to see another kiwi going well overseas.

Oceania has no guaranteed spot for the 2022 WC tournament at this stage. For 2026, Boyd will be 31 going on 32, so not sure that it would look like that much of a drawcard at this point in time.

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Portuguese league concludes this weekend. Like England, Germany & Netherlands it will come down to the last round. Benfica 2 points ahead of Porto, are strong favourites to win the title as they finish at home against mid table Santa Clara. 

Porto have a much tougher fixture, hosting 3rd placed Sporting CP.

Boyd's parent club Vitoria G, will finish 5th or 6th. They play 5th placed Moreirense in their last game. Only the top four qualify for Europe. I think this is the last year of Boyd's contract with Vitoria??

Boyd's old loan club from the last Portuguese season Tondela (15th) - could still be relegated going into the last round. Have a do or die tie against Chaves (15th & last relegation spot).

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he can fudge off

He always has been a arrogant, pretentious, materialistic, unloyal shark whom even as a teenager has always been looking after number 1

Actually rereading the above he is a perfect American. 

Please don't visit our country again Tyler

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Who else is going to look after number one?

The all whites never play, and even a few usnmt appearances will probably eclipse his all whites earnings.

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gutted, but NZF is a shambles with no game for over 500 days etc which would have hardly helped our cause.

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Have to wholeheartedly agree with that AP

Good riddance Tyler. Your greatest legacy is showing you are a shark team mate and would rather be at the movies instead of with the team.

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Can we also close this now? We don’t have separate threads for other foreign footballers.

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Fair enough. But as I’ve said before, the All Whites jersey is only for those who actually want it. 

No matter how good his form is, if he’s only 50:50 about playing for this country, he’s not fit to wear the jersey.

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Close and delete.

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

gutted, but NZF is a shambles with no game for over 500 days etc which would have hardly helped our cause.

Would normally be a good  point but bare in mind he has turned down games we have played before

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I don't get the hate talk here. He is a good footballer, who had a choice, he was always open about it. Try a bit of respect.

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He has an opportunity to progress and good on him for taking it. We sure as hell arn't gonna help to progress him, the All Whites are that mythical international team that show up every 4 years and never make it anywhere. 

He's still a Judas though.

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He was hardly open about it. Avoided call ups and didnt explain himself from 2015-2018.

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good luck to him I say, we can claim him if he does well

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is that different to picking up Smith and McGlinchey etc. Yes it was at the junior level but we benefited from their swap.... the biggest difference been, he's taken a step up whereas the others stepped down.

From the outside I know which one is more impressive.

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Article from MLS website.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/05/15/armchair-analyst-predicting-gregg-berhalters-usmnt-gold-cup-roster

WINGERS (3): Paul Arriola (D.C. United), Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders), Corey Baird (Real Salt Lake)

All three of these guys bring energy. Arriola has the most experience and two-way bite, and is probably best at taking defenders 1v1 to create room enough for a pullback or a shot. Morris has the most speed and has scored the biggest goals – remember who got the tournament winner in the 2017 Gold Cup at just 22 years old? Yeah, that was him. Baird's got the most sauce, and is probably the most instinctive set-up man of the three, but struggled to finish plays off for the US in his caps earlier this year.

Given the volume of high-level wingers suddenly coming through the pipeline, all of these guys need to make a big statement in this tournament.

Next in line: Jonathan Lewis (Colorado Rapids), Tim Weah (PSG), Kenny Saief (FC Cincinnati), Duane Holmes (Derby County), Jonathan Amon (Nordsjaelland)

If I were the coach I'd probably pick Lewis over one of the three guys listed above because of his acceleration and ability to finish off plays, as well as his efficacy as a late-game sub. At the moment I actually think it's a coin flip between him and Baird, with Baird getting the edge because of his production and confidence the past few weeks.

Weah would be on this roster if he weren't going to the U-20 World Cup. That team actually didn't need any help on the wing, but he was dying to play in the tournament, so that's that.

Saief has the talent but hasn't produced in a year, and was awful against Colombia. Amon, on the other hand, looked good in his single cap against Peru, and I'm genuinely shocked he's not on the U-20 team.

Holmes had a good all-around season in the Championship and his versatility means we'll probably see him in a future camp or two, though his upside doesn't match that of the kids (and his productivity is lacking).

EDIT: I'm also going to mention Tyler Boyd, a New Zealand-American dual international who's been excellent on the wing on loan in Turkey. He played for New Zealand at the youth levels but has never been officially capped (friendlies only) at the full international level, which means he can file a one-time switch to the US.

Boyd's 24 years old and I've never seen him play. I don't know where or if he factors into the long-term equation, but I imagine he's on Berhalter and Earnie Stewart's radar.

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Yeh between winning in Adelaide and going to the movies I wana know how he's going 

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TV wrote:

He was hardly open about it. Avoided call ups and didnt explain himself from 2015-2018.

I formerly criticised Boyd for being unavailable for the AWs. It was often the lack of news as to why he was unavailable from either NZF or Boyd himself, that was frustrating. Sounds like Hudson basically gave up after he choose to not go to PNG for the last OFC Nations Cup, when Huddo was struggling to put together a squad.

However last year Boyd finally gave some of his reasons, in this article re his AWs non availability.

http://americansoccernow.com/articles/dual-national-tyler-boyd-hopes-success-at-guimaraes-leads-to-international-choice

Basically before going to Portugal, his life had been split between NZ & the States. He felt torn between the 2 countries. Kiwi father, American mother.

To be fair to him it's a pretty reasonable/normal conflict. Winston Reid left NZ for Denmark when he was 10, then left for West Ham when he was 20-21. Most of his serious football development would have happened in Denmark, but luckily for us he choose the AWs. It probably upset a few good folk in the Danish football community. He played for the Danish under-19s and under-21s.

NZ have also benefited from Smith, Weemac & Rory Falloon, switching allegiance. Glenn Moss & Shane Smeltz lets be honest are more Aussies than Kiwis. You win some, you lose some.

It's hugely disappointing for the AWs as Boyd's career is really starting to take off. Him upfront with Wood, could have been a great partnership by the standards of NZ. Sadly it won't happen, but he don't deserve the hate.

Just wonder what Declan thinks about this. Disappointed that one of his proteges has left NZ football, or proud that he's likely to be picked up by a 'bigger' football nation?

No doubt one attraction for Boyd in attempting to make Team USA, will be potentially playing with wonder kid Christian Pulisic. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CphvE4UWTQ

Plus WC 2026 will be in USA/Canada/Mexico. 

Boyd would be age 31 then, so if good enough - that would be a massive event to be part of, playing for the hosts.

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Guess that is what happens when the national team doesn't play in nearly 2 years. Can't really complain about a player not committing to us when we never play. GL to him but time to delete this thread and forget about him. 

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Move to ex-Nix players thread?

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

is that different to picking up Smith and McGlinchey etc. Yes it was at the junior level but we benefited from their swap.... the biggest difference been, he's taken a step up whereas the others stepped down.

From the outside I know which one is more impressive.

Reid is probably the better example you were looking for...played for Denmark at age group and switched to NZ (for a trip to WC in 2010) 

I was actually always surprised he opted for NZ, given he could have been playing regularly in Euros as well as having probably equal or better chance of going to WCs with Denmark.

Boyd is entitled to do what he thinks is best for him. He doesn't owe me anything. 

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Jeff Vader wrote:

Can we also close this now? We don’t have separate threads for other foreign footballers.

We do, actually. We have plenty that have dual citizenship who would play for their 'other' county in a heartbeat if they were called up.

Boyd is no different... except he has a higher chance of being called up.

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TV wrote:

He was hardly open about it. Avoided call ups and didnt explain himself from 2015-2018.

He doesn't have to explain himself to us. I think we can all agree that the All Whites under Hudson are a far less attractive option than USA.

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Real shame, yet i think we will have more talent coming through. This should set an example for NZF, we can't afford to be doing nothing and letting talent go. If Boyd does do well and gets picked regularly for the USA it could potentially alienate other players to do the same in the future.

I wish i had a gig at NZF, get payed a bucket load and produce nothing? seriously, do people work full-time at NZF or is it all casual contracts.

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Reasons like this are why I wish we'd join the Asian Confederation.

Even if we end up playing games against Nepal, Bangladesh and the like, the potential to play more often and in bigger continental tournaments would surely inspire more Kiwi talent to stick with us, rather than NZF squatting in Oceania, taking a guaranteed WC spot and getting bundled out quick-smart every four years because we don't play any matches in between World Cups!

Is there any potential for Sarpreet Singh, for example, to switch allegiance to India? Once he inevitably moves to a bigger league overseas, why would he want to drag his feet with us?? We all saw how he was received in India the other year. He'd be a god over there!

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Its not clear to me that NZF has the funds to pay more often. 

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dunnix wrote:

Reasons like this are why I wish we'd join the Asian Confederation.

Even if we end up playing games against Nepal, Bangladesh and the like, the potential to play more often and in bigger continental tournaments would surely inspire more Kiwi talent to stick with us, rather than NZF squatting in Oceania, taking a guaranteed WC spot and getting bundled out quick-smart every four years because we don't play any matches in between World Cups!

Is there any potential for Sarpreet Singh, for example, to switch allegiance to India? Once he inevitably moves to a bigger league overseas, why would he want to drag his feet with us?? We all saw how he was received in India the other year. He'd be a god over there!

I'd assume, because he's a Kiwi, and  he's been here his whole life - he would stick with NZ.

Boyd's move isn't surprising considering he spends and has spent so much time in the US.

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valeo wrote:

dunnix wrote:

Reasons like this are why I wish we'd join the Asian Confederation.

Even if we end up playing games against Nepal, Bangladesh and the like, the potential to play more often and in bigger continental tournaments would surely inspire more Kiwi talent to stick with us, rather than NZF squatting in Oceania, taking a guaranteed WC spot and getting bundled out quick-smart every four years because we don't play any matches in between World Cups!

Is there any potential for Sarpreet Singh, for example, to switch allegiance to India? Once he inevitably moves to a bigger league overseas, why would he want to drag his feet with us?? We all saw how he was received in India the other year. He'd be a god over there!

I'd assume, because he's a Kiwi, and  he's been here his whole life - he would stick with NZ.

Boyd's move isn't surprising considering he spends and has spent so much time in the US.

I'd assume he plays for the team that play better, bigger and more games.

Plus the exposure to a bigger market.

I think it is good decision.

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