1.5m big ones to u17 wimmin WC

1.5m big ones to u17 wimmin WC

what is the money Helen is gifting going towards. The tournament is nearly on us, and I hope they weren't forecasting a $1.5m loss.

It's a seperate organisation, will have gone to them, not NZF.

Publicity before election?

Shouldn't have been hard to guilt them...

"You're spending how much on a Rugby World Cup that will be seen in less countries ?"

its money that the govt has put away in a specific fund for major sporting events......good thing for mine.

I'd rather see money going on the rugby world cup personally.  We can try and dress it up but this is a very minor sporting event that isn't going to do anything for NZ or NZ Football

Its 1.5mill which is a drop in the bucket really. Like said earlier it is all part of major events fund and i think the govt sees hosting events like this as good practice for anything that may come our way in the future, RWC, CWC and other FIFA tournaments hopefully

Problem is with our size there are very few events we are now in line to host...

Well we can use it as practice for the last 2/3 we will get. Rugby and Cricket world cups as well as the Rowing World Champs i guess

Wow, $1.5m to get your face in "NZ Soccer"s illustrious website. http://www.nzsoccer.com/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=25133

From memory someone said it was on tele in over 50 countries? But yeh, putting some money towards us getting a team SAFRICA 2010 would be nice...

Or the new government comes in cancels it and gives it back to the poor average folk in Parnell struggling with the recession.

It may be on TV in 50 countries but that doesn't mean that anyone is going to watch it.  Obviously any money going into the game is a good thing though, would be nice to have it put to use elsewhere but take what we can get

It's all for tourist money rather than being nice to NZF U17 Organizing committee. The country gets massive tourism injection when event like this happens. So they tagged the funding amount as $1.5 million will get about maybe $12 million as the least expected return for the country during the whole event. $12 million that is GSTed at 12.5% will get the Government their $1.5 million back. Plus other spin offs includes the Government and country gets free advertising for tourism etc. With $1.5 million investment into $11.8 million tournament, the Government is already due to have immediate 12.7% investment return on the profits as soon as the tournament finishes.

So really, it all about economy stimulation and encouraging big organisations like FIFA to captalise on quality and cheap NZ venues to host tournament events.AllWhitebelievr2008-10-07 14:03:05

Thats what government funding is always about in these situations though. We just have to get them to see that football is a global sport,and there is huge potential tourism dollars and national exposure at stake

Association Football is a big revenue cash cow and the stupid NZ government have been milking and growing the smaller and wrong cow i.e. Rugby Football. The potential is huge even for a small country such as ours. players can be developed, trained, imported and exported like any other commodity. And it is a larger global market than any other sports. You have to be daft not to recognise it's real value on the global scheme.AllWhitebelievr2008-10-07 23:13:48

james dean2008-10-07 23:32:23

Garry Glitter cares.

The NZ Government has been favouring Rugby for decades over Soccer such that Rugby was able to become Professional with relative ease whereas Soccer has been very limited in NZ and is still amateur in NZ. The education sector has emphasized Rugby over all other sports until the 1990s.

On the global trend in history, Soccer in NZ should have become Professional before Rugby by two or three decades ago. To date there is only one professional club in NZ relying on Australia is embarrassing. Rugby had more leg up from the NZ Government before they became professional and self sufficient. But since the advent of Professional Rugby, many other sports were looking for the government money that was once belong only to Rugby.

The Sport foundation was created to catered the various demands for government funding. New and different sports came along and the money was spread around diluting the amount of funding. The funding criteria task was fawed and so the sport foundation crashed and burned. And later Sparc was created instead as a management agency for sport.

At the end of the day, Rugby had their glory and Soccer didn't despite having more participants in Soccer than Rugby overall.

There was no reason why Soccer couldn't have turn professional with Government helping other than Rugby was more organised in province representatives infrastructure and Soccer was very club-oriented and had worse in-fighting in their structure. The government and regional bodies were more willing to help province representation of the Rugby infrastructure than the club-oriented Soccer infrastructure. So more money at the elite end of Rugby and not in the elite end of Soccer. Only if we had changed the infrastructure after the 1982 World Cup into Province Representation, things could have changed around for Soccer. Rugby would eventually turn Professional after the 1987 World Cup in 1990s and we would have two professional winter domestic sports.

Now we may have to wait much later for Professional Soccer. . . and with the credit crunch coming just crossed our fingers that being an amateur sport has a benefit and a blessing in disguise.

We all know they only fund sports that no one plays. This has been done to death on this forum in the past. We've struggled for funding because we are ranked between 50th and 100th in the world,they only fund sports where there is a realistic chance of winning or doing well in a world cup.

how did govt funding help rugby become professional?  rugby has been more popular as a spectator sport for a long time in nz, soccer has not and is not.  what funding does the govt give to nz rugby?  This again makes no sense...and really is paranoid in the extreme, we have to stop blaming the government for flaws within the organisation. james dean2008-10-09 02:10:41

Government funding/support in the days when Rugby was amateur. There was plenty of support with central and regional governments. They cut corners for Rugby. When Rugby became fully professional, the Funding stopped. This was before the advent of the Sport Foundation that came and crashed.

Yes Rugby has become more popular as a spectator sport significantly because of the semi-professional NPC format that came in 1976, appeal to the polynesians with the NZ Maoris team and TV one Channel.

The politicians had a long relationship with Rugby since a son of the Speaker of the House of Representatives introduced the game to NZ at the very beginning. The government and Rugby are entrenched for an very long time. The state-owned TVNZ stations (previously TV one) had a strong Rugby broadcasting agenda over other sports in those days to make it popular.

Soccer was first to have a national league but had financial instability because of an unsupported club system whereas Rugby in their amateur days had plenty of government support to make it popular. The funding wasn't always been direct.AllWhitebelievr2008-10-09 02:53:45

I'd say that this u17 football world cup will do just as well if not better than an u17 rugby world cup here so i think we are definitely making strides.