So is it Tzanev or N Boxall who is the anti vaxxer? My money on Tzanev.
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So is it Tzanev or N Boxall who is the anti vaxxer? My money on Tzanev.
Would say so too, but then again, that's their choice. Either way, it just means we're unlikely to see them in the national team setup for the foreseeable future.
Dalton Wilkins is a shout as well given he has played since the last internationals. Anyone familiar with Declan Edge's social media output wouldn't be surprised if one of his proteges didn't get vaxxed.
So is it Tzanev or N Boxall who is the anti vaxxer? My money on Tzanev.
Would say so too, but then again, that's their choice. Either way, it just means we're unlikely to see them in the national team setup for the foreseeable future.
To be fair, those two were the only ones in Bahrain not to get any minutes across either game, so they’re probably low down the pecking order anyway, especially considering A League guys aren’t in yet.
Also, does anyone know where Kalua is trialling at?
Dalton Wilkins is a shout as well given he has played since the last internationals. Anyone familiar with Declan Edge's social media output wouldn't be surprised if one of his proteges didn't get vaxxed.
He’s in a low-end Danish third tier team and not starting, its possible, but I reckon its more likely he’s just been dropped for De Vries who’s playing left-back every week for the best team in Sweden’s second tier
NZRU only has about 6 teams to pick from.
Maybe NZF shouldn't employ so many people in areas that don't need them.
Central football have about 4 people doing what only 10 years ago I person was doing.
Maybe NZF shouldn't employ so many people in areas that don't need them.
Central football have about 4 people doing what only 10 years ago I person was doing.
Sorry should have been more specific and said was Administrator and not technical
Hard to figure what is going on his head when he wrote that but I can’t see anything about COVID there. Perhaps he broke up with his girlfriend or is just a very deep thinker?
Hard to figure what is going on his head when he wrote that but I can’t see anything about COVID there. Perhaps he broke up with his girlfriend or is just a very deep thinker?
Seems to be a leader at his club and a popular guy. All this doom and gloom, and uncertainty, and being a long way from family would and should shake anyone up.
If it’s true it’s a pity, cos we need defensive depth!
Hard to figure what is going on his head when he wrote that but I can’t see anything about COVID there. Perhaps he broke up with his girlfriend or is just a very deep thinker?
he's tried to keep it subtle, but couldn't avoid a few buzzwords which are absolute hallmarks of, at the very least, those who belittle the impact of COVID
Hard to figure what is going on his head when he wrote that but I can’t see anything about COVID there. Perhaps he broke up with his girlfriend or is just a very deep thinker?
The Venn diagram of antivaxxers and people who complain about things being too pc is just one circle within another. I’d bet my last $5 that it’s him.
Hard to figure what is going on his head when he wrote that but I can’t see anything about COVID there. Perhaps he broke up with his girlfriend or is just a very deep thinker?
The Venn diagram of antivaxxers and people who complain about things being too pc is just one circle within another. I’d bet my last $5 that it’s him.
While I agree, I'll happily take your $5. And throw in a 'told you so' for free.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/126850237/all-whites-squad-for-november-named-nik-tzanev-cant-travel-for-personal-reasons
Hah, that Boxall post really reeks of young 20's philosophy. Poor lad, you'll get past thinking you've got to the bottom of the world's problems.
Hard to figure what is going on his head when he wrote that but I can’t see anything about COVID there. Perhaps he broke up with his girlfriend or is just a very deep thinker?
The Venn diagram of antivaxxers and people who complain about things being too pc is just one circle within another. I’d bet my last $5 that it’s him.
While I agree, I'll happily take your $5. And throw in a 'told you so' for free.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/126850237/all-whites-squad-for-november-named-nik-tzanev-cant-travel-for-personal-reasons
Ha! Beat me to it. Though this one is a live link!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/126850237/all-whites-squad-for-november-named-nik-tzanev-cant-travel-for-personal-reasons
woah, that's both a massive shock and a massive shame. had been hoping he'd make the #1 jersey his own for a while
I take it all back and I owe someone $5!
Hah, that Boxall post really reeks of young 20's philosophy. Poor lad, you'll get past thinking you've got to the bottom of the world's problems.
You've never heard Newstalk ZB, I take it?
Utterly stupid from Hay. Out someone as anti-vaxxed and they don't pick three players so all are under the spotlight. I got no time for anti-vaxers, but if Hay didn't say anything initially and then just said Tzanev wasn't available for personal reason then noone would be the wiser and Boxall and Wilkins would have had their name in the mud.
Oh, did Hay openly say it was an anti-vaxxer? Or did he say that the certain player wasn’t vaccinated at this point in time?
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
he said that one play wasn't fully vaxxed, no comment about being anti vax or not.
So Hay hasn’t outed anyone as Anti-Vax?
Maybe the player in question might be in the process of getting their vaccination and could’ve been single doses, but fully yet. Or just hadn’t got it yet.
Why are there assumptions about them being anti-vaxx? Again just asking a question here
Maybe the player in question might be in the process of getting their vaccination and could’ve been single doses, but fully yet. Or just hadn’t got it yet.
Why are there assumptions about them being anti-vaxx? Again just asking a question here
think just some assumptions being made based on limited information being provided.
So we don’t actually know much at all and we’re just throwing accusations that the coach has said the player is anti-vaxx?
That’s poor form.
Just being honest here, being anti-vaxx is currently seen as a negative connotation in today’s society.
I’m not saying they’re bad people, people are allowed to decide whether they can be vaccinated or not.
In this current situation what we know:
- The player in question just wasn’t selected as UAE’s rules require you to be fully vaccinated.
- The player in question was either one of three players
What we DON’T KNOW:
- If the player is in the process of getting vaccinated
- If the player is Anti-vaxx
Take it as you will, but it’s piss poor to throw accusations that Hay outed the player as Anti-Vaxx.
This is most likely the reason why NZF decided not to name the player as it is a privacy breach and let’s say it is Boxall or Tzanev, how much criticism would that player receive if they were named?
All that’ll do is deter the player from ever representing the All Whites again.
And the only place once again throw the blame on is NZF, which it shouldn’t be.
NZF have done the right thing here.
That’s poor form.
Just being honest here, being anti-vaxx is currently seen as a negative connotation in today’s society.
I’m not saying they’re bad people, people are allowed to decide whether they can be vaccinated or not.
In this current situation what we know:
- The player in question just wasn’t selected as UAE’s rules require you to be fully vaccinated.
- The player in question was either one of three players
What we DON’T KNOW:
- If the player is in the process of getting vaccinated
- If the player is Anti-vaxx
Take it as you will, but it’s piss poor to throw accusations that Hay outed the player as Anti-Vaxx.
This is most likely the reason why NZF decided not to name the player as it is a privacy breach and let’s say it is Boxall or Tzanev, how much criticism would that player receive if they were named?
All that’ll do is deter the player from ever representing the All Whites again.
And the only place once again throw the blame on is NZF, which it shouldn’t be.
NZF have done the right thing here.
Oh, did Hay openly say it was an anti-vaxxer? Or did he say that the certain player wasn’t vaccinated at this point in time?
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
He said "Over here they are really quite strict on vaccinations and getting into the country and needing to be double-vaxxed and at this stage there is a player that hasn't had that, and so we won't be able to select them at this point in time,"
Didn't say anti-vax. Just said what was happening
Hay's comment seems fine.
I'm sure the players who are vaccinated are probably glad Tzanev isn't sharing a plane/accommodation, etc, with them in close proximity, so unless he gets Vaccinated who cares if he makes himself available again.
He can go hang out with Stensness for all I care.
I'm sure the players who are vaccinated are probably glad Tzanev isn't sharing a plane/accommodation, etc, with them in close proximity, so unless he gets Vaccinated who cares if he makes himself available again.
He can go hang out with Stensness for all I care.
So we don’t actually know much at all and we’re just throwing accusations that the coach has said the player is anti-vaxx?
That’s poor form.
Just being honest here, being anti-vaxx is currently seen as a negative connotation in today’s society.
I’m not saying they’re bad people, people are allowed to decide whether they can be vaccinated or not.
In this current situation what we know:
- The player in question just wasn’t selected as UAE’s rules require you to be fully vaccinated.
- The player in question was either one of three players
What we DON’T KNOW:
- If the player is in the process of getting vaccinated
- If the player is Anti-vaxx
Take it as you will, but it’s piss poor to throw accusations that Hay outed the player as Anti-Vaxx.
This is most likely the reason why NZF decided not to name the player as it is a privacy breach and let’s say it is Boxall or Tzanev, how much criticism would that player receive if they were named?
All that’ll do is deter the player from ever representing the All Whites again.
And the only place once again throw the blame on is NZF, which it shouldn’t be.
NZF have done the right thing here.
That’s poor form.
Just being honest here, being anti-vaxx is currently seen as a negative connotation in today’s society.
I’m not saying they’re bad people, people are allowed to decide whether they can be vaccinated or not.
In this current situation what we know:
- The player in question just wasn’t selected as UAE’s rules require you to be fully vaccinated.
- The player in question was either one of three players
What we DON’T KNOW:
- If the player is in the process of getting vaccinated
- If the player is Anti-vaxx
Take it as you will, but it’s piss poor to throw accusations that Hay outed the player as Anti-Vaxx.
This is most likely the reason why NZF decided not to name the player as it is a privacy breach and let’s say it is Boxall or Tzanev, how much criticism would that player receive if they were named?
All that’ll do is deter the player from ever representing the All Whites again.
And the only place once again throw the blame on is NZF, which it shouldn’t be.
NZF have done the right thing here.
NZF and the All Whites haven't done any wrong here and in fact Hay is quite neutral about it and appreciating it's the players' personal decision.
Nobody knows his reasons for not being vaccinated and I'm still in the camp that it's not really of any of our business... let's hope that he can still play a role in our setup for years to come.
Just as well he is probably our number three anyway.
Imagine if it was wood
Imagine if it was wood
Just as well he is probably our number three anyway.
Imagine if it was wood
Imagine if it was wood
Oh, did Hay openly say it was an anti-vaxxer? Or did he say that the certain player wasn’t vaccinated at this point in time?
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
Yeah, I'm really disappointed in Tzanev, who's been in the UK during their COVID nightmare and got to see all the carnage close up. Brits and people living there keep crowing about how "we're going back to normal" but unless "normal" means "mass deaths", it has to mean mass vaccination.
Oh, did Hay openly say it was an anti-vaxxer? Or did he say that the certain player wasn’t vaccinated at this point in time?
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
I wasn’t sure if the word anti vaxxed was used, but I could be wrong here so that’s why I am asking
Only 3 possibilities imo
1. Lazy
2. Medical issues
3. Anti-vaxx
1 and 2 aren’t personal issues.
And now the herald is saying there is another one or didn’t go due to being anti vax
Here I was thinking one in roughly twenty ain’t a bad ratio
Now we are approaching the idiot 10 per cent
Here I was thinking one in roughly twenty ain’t a bad ratio
Now we are approaching the idiot 10 per cent
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/a-league/126860262/all-whites-didnt-pick-goalkeeper-oli-sail-after-request-from-wellington-phoenix?rm=a
Sail had been considered for selection as he is an Australian citizen and would not have to quarantine when he got back.
Sail had been considered for selection as he is an Australian citizen and would not have to quarantine when he got back.
Reading the article, it seems 'Player B' wasn't in the last squad. So, could be any US or European-based player.....your Wynne, Musa, Billingsley, Stevens, Themi, Scimia, Crocombe, Thomas, etc etc. Or even an "eligible to play for New Zealand" player.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/126837949/all-whites-lock-in-november-fixture-against-the-gambia-another-to-be-announced
The Gambia. Proper little despot nation (or they were for a long while). But no time for politics. A neighbour from our farming area in the Rapa, actually weirdly ended up 2IC to the British Ambassador there upon a time. Followed his Czech partner who worked there for an NGO, and just approached the Embassy for a job as bored.
Despite their low ranking have some guys at a useful level. A lot in Italy, incl Serie A. One at Roma. NZP will be pleased. But none that I can see so far playing in the UK, which is interesting for an English speaking African nation.
https://us.soccerway.com/teams/gambia/gambia/946/
https://us.soccerway.com/players/ebrima-darboe/596921/
Another, is a team mate (German born) of Singh's at Jahn Regensburg
https://us.soccerway.com/players/leon-guwara/260550/
2nd planned non cap fixture, some Middle Eastern club team?
The Gambia. Proper little despot nation (or they were for a long while). But no time for politics. A neighbour from our farming area in the Rapa, actually weirdly ended up 2IC to the British Ambassador there upon a time. Followed his Czech partner who worked there for an NGO, and just approached the Embassy for a job as bored.
Despite their low ranking have some guys at a useful level. A lot in Italy, incl Serie A. One at Roma. NZP will be pleased. But none that I can see so far playing in the UK, which is interesting for an English speaking African nation.
https://us.soccerway.com/teams/gambia/gambia/946/
https://us.soccerway.com/players/ebrima-darboe/596921/
Another, is a team mate (German born) of Singh's at Jahn Regensburg
https://us.soccerway.com/players/leon-guwara/260550/
2nd planned non cap fixture, some Middle Eastern club team?
Darboe has been a bit of a revelation so far. Only played a couple of games for the first team but he's shown great promise. Still quite a raw talent. I'd ve surprised if he featured fur more than 25 min
Including Ebrima Darboe of Roma who played the full 90 against Sierra Leone on October 9. One start in Serie A this season, one in the Europa Conference.
And Bologna's first choice striker Musa Barrow (four goals in ten games in Serie A this season; ex Atalanta)
Gambia's matches 2020-21 (more up-to-date than Soccerway):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambia_national_football_team#Recent_schedule_and_results
2-1 loss to Sierra Leone 9/10/21
2-1 win vs. South Sudan 12/10/21
Line-up and match stats vs. Sierra Leone:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/match/_/gameId/620640
Starting line-up:
Baboucarr Gaye (goal; Koblenz, German 4th tier)
Defenders: Omar Colley (Sampdoria, Serie A)
Ibou Touray (Salford City, English League 2)
Noah Sunberg (Ostersund, Swedish top tier)
Saidy Janko (Real Valladolid; la Liga last season, Segunda currently)
Midfield:
Sulayman Marreh (Gent, Belgium top tier)
Ablie Jallow (Metz, Ligue 1 - on loan at Seraing, Belgian top tier)
Ebrima Darboe (AS Roma, Serie A)
Forwards:
Assan Ceesay (FC Zurich, Switzerland)
Bubacarr Trawally (FC Ajman, UAE - ex Saudi league, Chinese Super League)
Momodou Jallow (Boreham Wood, English National League; ex Bosnian lge)
Subs on:
Yusupha Bobb (DF. Livorno, Italy)
Leon Guwara (DF. Sarpreet's mate from Jahn Regenberg, ex Werder Bremen, Utrecht, Netherlands)
Musa Barrow (FW Bologna, Serie A)
Modou Barrow (FW Jeonbuk, Korea; ex Swansea and Reading)
Dembo Darboe (FW Soligorsk, Belarus)
Bubacarr Jobe (FW Norrby, Swedish second tier)
Gabon's Belgian coach Tom Saintfiet has coached a staggering number of national teams (mostly in Africa)- ten different sides in 12 years!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Saintfiet
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/126837949/all-whites-lock-in-november-fixture-against-the-gambia-another-to-be-announced
The Gambia. Proper little despot nation (or they were for a long while). But no time for politics. A neighbour from our farming area in the Rapa, actually weirdly ended up 2IC to the British Ambassador there upon a time. Followed his Czech partner who worked there for an NGO, and just approached the Embassy for a job as bored.
Despite their low ranking have some guys at a useful level. A lot in Italy, incl Serie A. One at Roma. NZP will be pleased. But none that I can see so far playing in the UK, which is interesting for an English speaking African nation.
https://us.soccerway.com/teams/gambia/gambia/946/
https://us.soccerway.com/players/ebrima-darboe/596921/
Another, is a team mate (German born) of Singh's at Jahn Regensburg
https://us.soccerway.com/players/leon-guwara/260550/
2nd planned non cap fixture, some Middle Eastern club team?
The Gambia. Proper little despot nation (or they were for a long while). But no time for politics. A neighbour from our farming area in the Rapa, actually weirdly ended up 2IC to the British Ambassador there upon a time. Followed his Czech partner who worked there for an NGO, and just approached the Embassy for a job as bored.
Despite their low ranking have some guys at a useful level. A lot in Italy, incl Serie A. One at Roma. NZP will be pleased. But none that I can see so far playing in the UK, which is interesting for an English speaking African nation.
https://us.soccerway.com/teams/gambia/gambia/946/
https://us.soccerway.com/players/ebrima-darboe/596921/
Another, is a team mate (German born) of Singh's at Jahn Regensburg
https://us.soccerway.com/players/leon-guwara/260550/
2nd planned non cap fixture, some Middle Eastern club team?
Darboe has been a bit of a revelation so far. Only played a couple of games for the first team but he's shown great promise. Still quite a raw talent. I'd ve surprised if he featured fur more than 25 min
Including Ebrima Darboe of Roma who played the full 90 against Sierra Leone on October 9. One start in Serie A this season, one in the Europa Conference.
And Bologna's first choice striker Musa Barrow (four goals in ten games in Serie A this season; ex Atalanta)
Gambia's matches 2020-21 (more up-to-date than Soccerway):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambia_national_football_team#Recent_schedule_and_results
2-1 loss to Sierra Leone 9/10/21
2-1 win vs. South Sudan 12/10/21
Line-up and match stats vs. Sierra Leone:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/match/_/gameId/620640
Starting line-up:
Baboucarr Gaye (goal; Koblenz, German 4th tier)
Defenders: Omar Colley (Sampdoria, Serie A)
Ibou Touray (Salford City, English League 2)
Noah Sunberg (Ostersund, Swedish top tier)
Saidy Janko (Real Valladolid; la Liga last season, Segunda currently)
Midfield:
Sulayman Marreh (Gent, Belgium top tier)
Ablie Jallow (Metz, Ligue 1 - on loan at Seraing, Belgian top tier)
Ebrima Darboe (AS Roma, Serie A)
Forwards:
Assan Ceesay (FC Zurich, Switzerland)
Bubacarr Trawally (FC Ajman, UAE - ex Saudi league, Chinese Super League)
Momodou Jallow (Boreham Wood, English National League; ex Bosnian lge)
Subs on:
Yusupha Bobb (DF. Livorno, Italy)
Leon Guwara (DF. Sarpreet's mate from Jahn Regenberg, ex Werder Bremen, Utrecht, Netherlands)
Musa Barrow (FW Bologna, Serie A)
Modou Barrow (FW Jeonbuk, Korea; ex Swansea and Reading)
Dembo Darboe (FW Soligorsk, Belarus)
Bubacarr Jobe (FW Norrby, Swedish second tier)
Gabon's Belgian coach Tom Saintfiet has coached a staggering number of national teams (mostly in Africa)- ten different sides in 12 years!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Saintfiet
yeh, I was thinking if our squad lined up for this selection of clubs we'd be feeling pretty happy - agree it could be a decent contest!
Barrow will probably be the best player on the field (maybe bar Wood) if he plays. He's fast, good on the ball. 25 goals in 100 Serie A appearances at 22 is nothing to scoff at. Colley (Sampdoria) will be the best defender on the field since Reid isn't playing and they have a couple of very pacey wingers that can cause problems. Other than that they're pretty light.
Our lack of depth at RB could be a big problem, I can picture whoever ends up there just getting rinsed for pace. Overall a pretty even matchup, maybe Gambia slight favourites?
Our lack of depth at RB could be a big problem, I can picture whoever ends up there just getting rinsed for pace. Overall a pretty even matchup, maybe Gambia slight favourites?
Would not surprise me in slightest if most of the squad have unvaccinated the mates. Uptake by pro sports people has been poor in many places.
Barrow will probably be the best player on the field (maybe bar Wood) if he plays. He's fast, good on the ball. 25 goals in 100 Serie A appearances at 22 is nothing to scoff at. Colley (Sampdoria) will be the best defender on the field since Reid isn't playing and they have a couple of very pacey wingers that can cause problems. Other than that they're pretty light.
Our lack of depth at RB could be a big problem, I can picture whoever ends up there just getting rinsed for pace. Overall a pretty even matchup, maybe Gambia slight favourites?
Our lack of depth at RB could be a big problem, I can picture whoever ends up there just getting rinsed for pace. Overall a pretty even matchup, maybe Gambia slight favourites?
I see people worried about our RB depth a lot, but it isn't a problem at all imo
Barrow's gonna be a massive challenge for our CB pairing though, definitely a contender for best player on the pitch.