2500, c'mon Welli

2500, c'mon Welli

I've read a few posts since YF started about poor crowd numbers in Auckland but the AWs have never had as few as 2500 at a game.  This is very disappointing, I imagine the NZF will quietly be thinking that it was let down (hang on... it states it was let down on its own website) by the people of the Lower North Island.

True. 2500 is a VERY poor effort. Big ups to those that did attend. Pity on those who did not.

1) tickets were too expensive...I want to know how much they were in Auckland for the fiji game, anyone know? Tegal2007-11-21 23:51:49

Same for the no game v Fiji $27 plus booking fee.
Your other points have some merit. But i think if people really cared they would make the time and the effort to go. It doesn't seem to matter where they play the crowd is considered to be poor. Very frustrating.

Mate the Akl tickets were the same and AW world cup qulifiers are always mid week, don't know why.  Anyway I've always gone to AKLs games no matter when they were and have never seen that bad a crowd.  Maybe Welli is getting fat on footie.

For me this isn't an Auckland v Wellington thing. It's an All Whites apathy thing.

Auckland has much more of a population? I didnt realise ticket prices were the same, but you guys earn more hehe.

But yeah, lets not make this Auckland vs wellington. Im just saying those are the key reasons for the poor turnout. If someone is paying $82 next weekendon footy, then $30 for the next 2 weeks, theyre hardly going to come to a midweek game, that they struggle to get to from work, against a small island nation. If given a choice of games due to budget constraints, almost everyone would choose a phoenix game!

That, and the fact it wasnt advertised at all...most of my mates knew nothing about it

Anyways, i feel ive repeated myself...

I think one reason, its the general opinion that when the All Whites play, it's nothing spectacular, it doesn't matter if it's the national team or not, it's not worth paying the bucks to go (however this doesn't include me, I would happily watch All Whites any time they play if it was possible), and also another reason i think is the 6pm kickoff ... a large number of people would finish work at 5pm, some even later, coupled with the fact that its a game against a lowly opposition ... ticket prices could also be a factor ... and also with the Beckham game coming up, and more home games, money rears its head again, theres a lot of out of town people that come to watch the 'Nix play, and a lot of these would not be at the game last night ... including me. Lysergic_Bliss2007-11-22 06:46:07

I didnt attend as i worked so i can get the Phoenix home games.But having spoken to a number of people price has been a big thing.Really the prices charged are just out of wack especially those for children.

With the Phoenix having 3 consecutive home games after this week maybe some are keeping their money for those.Then you also throw in the Beckham game and maybe you have to ask the question just why it was scheduled forWellington,asking a bit much to expect the same people to  go to their pockects so many times in a short space of time.

Price killed it for me sorry...$27 plus $6 booking fee for adult and then additional for  a child plus food plus....    I chose to spend my dispoable income on the Beckham game supporting Phoenix and new management initiatives...and I would rather see Galaxy than AWs play Vanuatu.  What a mediocre game as a aside..Mulligans free kick apart.  It was a poor spectacle compared to a Phoenix match.

bring some games to QE2 Christchurch! ffs

It's all Vanuatu's fault. If Port Villa was up to scratch originally, the game would of been played when we were supposed to be playing Fiji, and then the closeness to Phoenix games wouldn't of affected the crowd do much.

disappointing but there some factors have been identified which FNZ should look at

particularly - marketing!, 6.00 k.o. and the fact that kids should get in for $5 or free (they are the next generation of fans/players and they often drag their parents along)

to be fair though  -we sounded louder than 2-3k!!

I caught the first 20 mins of the TV replay on 1, you guys sounded awesome! Seriously think the lack of marketing hurt the numbers. There was no noise anywhere about the game that I saw.

Big ups to the guys who flew down from Auckland to support the All Whites

When was the last time that the All Whites played mid week?  That was probably the biggest issue with the crowd I think.  I know people with free tickets who didn't go because it was going to be too difficult.

Marketing of the game was almost non-existent.  NZF should have a talk to the Phoenix management about promotion of games.  Only one other person at my work knew it was on, and he had free tickets.

Very disappointing crowd as already mentioned no marketing etc. midweek it wasn't a cheap night, $29 for the ticket, 7 for the train 11 for a couple of beers and 5.50 for me tucker, $52.50 just for me, lucky for me my daughter has exams and the wife stayed home with her.

8,500 against Malaysia on a Thursday in Auckland early last year.

I blame it on the Media for not promoting the game.

Another thing to note I think is that there are a large number of ex-pats at the Phoenix games, just look at the BB before a match, I'd say 30-40% fall in to this category.  I don't think you can criticise them for not being at such a low profile international.  

Well ok what if they had taken a lead from South African Cricket? During this years world cup for the mid week games when there was no competition they would bus in the school kids to get crowd figures up! Why not look at this in the future? Look into community groups, local sporting clubs, church groups, and get a decent discount going?

And maybe they do need to think about their ticket prices, because honestly I think they would have made more money if they had had the tix at (what its actually worth) at $10 a pop! Maybe their marketing manager didn't do his research to? Actually maybe he just sat in his office on trademe and youtube hmmmm???

That's a good idea.loyalgunner2007-11-22 13:37:28

terminator_x2007-11-22 13:39:42

Say it showed that with a small crowd its still just as effective.

yeh that 6 oclock kick off is a sh*tter for the traffic from kilbirnie into town worse than the morning!!- missed the first goal!!

(btw - good to see you're back SiNz - do you, by chance, have the figure for the number of gigs a streaming 90 min game uses up?? - we were posting about it a few weeks back)

Sooo Auckland got 8500 for the All Whites matches, 2000 for the Knights matches, while Wellington gets 2500 for an All Whites match and 10,000+ for Phoenix matches.

Lucky theres more Phoenix matches than All Whites matches.

And seriously, if the opposition was a little more decent (like Malaysia), and there was any advertising what-so-ever (I certainly saw/heard none and I don't live in a cave) we would get the numbers. It is sad, however, to see more people attending a club match than a national match, and 10x more people attending.. Beckham.

People in Wellington who are thinking of waiting for a better team like Malaysia (FIFA ranking 159) to play in Wellington rather than Vanuatu (FIFA ranking 141) might be waiting a long time. This better opposition will probably never turn up. When the All Whites play in your city (where ever that may be) you need to take that chance as it is a rare occasion.
I agree totally with your point about more people to watch Beckham than the national team. Not that i disagree with the Beckham game.

Sanday is right. If you're in charge of placing the All White games for the the better teams, you're going to give them to the cities that have a good record of bringing out the numbers.

thanks, that's less than i thought and quite doable, cheers SiNZ

yeah chch got over 10000 to the malaysian game and canterbury united get around 1000 to there games,

" yeah chch got over 10000 to the malaysian game and canterbury united get around 1000 to there games"
are these games held on week nights or weekends?????

Reasons I didn't go:

1. A lot of people I know, including myself, have dropped $80+ on beckham weekend. I have also factored in some money for drinking etc, so my budget doesn't stretch to a mid-week game.

2. Advertising was pish. No radio ad's, nothing visible in the paper and a couple of poxy banners on the concourse is rubbish.

3. Midweek. A lot of people with families etc just want to get home after a hard days work and chill out. If it was on a friday night or saturday it would have been a lot better. Midweek games also rule out anyone from palmy etc who want to go.

a bit of a disaster allround.