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5th Placed Asian nation, Who will it be?

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TBdFSOE wrote:
Bahrain:
 They will be a different proposition v Saudi, and the AWs will need to play the game of their lives to beat either of these sides... Saudi have a proud WC history, having qualified for the last four in a row, while Bahrain are desperate to get there after going so close last time - 2 very fired up, motivated teams.
 
Be interesting to see how the All Whites do against Jordan, as Bahrain wacked them 4-0 in a friendly on June 3rd.
Bahrain haven't played an international since their last World Cup qualifier on 17/6/09( a 1-0 win against Uzbekistan), only club sides.
Australia beat them 2-0 in Aussie on 10/6/09.
Their next friendlies are against Kenya on 26/8/09 and Iran on 31/8/09.
They've won 10 of their last 19 games- not outstanding form... 
Details on Bahrain team, results, players etc. at FIFA.com: www.fifa.com/associations/association=bhr/index.html
 
 

 
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Checking Saudi Arabia's record of the last few years on FIFA.com:
shows they simply don't get to play sides outside of the Asia/Middle East zone much any more:(probably European or South American sides don't want to venture there because of security concerns). In the past, pre- September 11, they used to gain experience by playing more friendlies against top European or South American opposition. All of their last 19 internationals have been against Asian Confederation teams.
 You have to go back to 9/11/07 before they last played a European side (Estonia is all they could manage- the same kind of weaker European team NZ has played in friendlies).
The last time they played a South American country was Paraguay in a friendly on 20/08/08.
 
And how many of their team survive from the last World Cup Finals in 2006?  The only tournament they've played outside the Arabian Peninsula (where they failed in the Gulf Cup this year) since then, was the last Asian Cup  where they did not do well.
They failed to win a game in the 2006 World Cup Finals- the last Saudi win in a World Cup Finals was in their first appearance in 1994. Since then their record reads: 1998:2L 1D; 2002: 3L (including a caning of  8-0 by Germany).
 
At least the All Whites have played a variety of opposition over the last couple of years , including the useful experience of the Confederations Cup in June and friendlies against vastly varied opposition.
 
Saudi Arabia's record over the last year is not impressive: of their last 19 internationals (all against teams from the Asian Confed.), they've only won nine.
This includes losses to Oman in their most recent game ( a friendly last week 12/8/09), an earlier loss to Oman in the Gulf Cup Final, a loss to Qatar in May, a loss to North Korea in a World Cup tie in Feb., and 0-0 draws with both North and South Korea in World Cup qualifiers.
They only managed to win two of their last five World Cup qualifiers this year.
 
Saudi are ranked #64 by FIFA and our other possible opponent, Bahrain #65.
In their
 
 
Big Pete 652009-08-20 09:16:26

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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I wonder if the Saudi Arabia vs Bahrain games will be on Iraqgoals...it would be interesting to watch them.

VUW AFC - Victoria University Football for life

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Check myp2p.eu on the day of the games and you'll see a list of all the channels to watch through, not just Iraqgoals.
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Bahrain 2-1 Kenya

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=258407
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I wonder if the Saudi Arabia vs Bahrain games will be on Iraqgoals...it would be interesting to watch them.
 
Sky should show it.

Salmon swim upstream

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Salmon07 wrote:
I wonder if the Saudi Arabia vs Bahrain games will be on Iraqgoals...it would be interesting to watch them.

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Sky should show it.


Why? They haven't shown any other Asian WC qualifying games.
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el grapadura wrote:
Salmon07 wrote:
I wonder if the Saudi Arabia vs Bahrain games will be on Iraqgoals...it would be interesting to watch them.

 

Sky should show it.


Why? They haven't shown any other Asian WC qualifying games.
 
Maybe because it involves us and affects us and there would be a fair bit of interest from us.
 
Maybe.

Three for me, and two for them.

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I can't see them showing it. Have they shown any World Cup Qualifiers at all? From memory, any coverage has been ESPN relayed coverage hasn't it?
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Buffon II wrote:
el grapadura wrote:
Salmon07 wrote:
I wonder if the Saudi Arabia vs Bahrain games will be on Iraqgoals...it would be interesting to watch them.

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Sky should show it.
Why? They haven't shown any other Asian WC qualifying games.

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Maybe because it involves us and affects us and there would be a fair bit of interest from us.

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Maybe.


You could make the same argument for showing the final group matches from Asia - yet they did not. Hard to see them rushing to show these games now.el grapadura2009-08-28 12:04:28
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There is a much stronger case to show this game than any of the others in the Asian qualifers to date.
 
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Because we can send voodoo hex vibes down the televesion wire-that's why
 
I, for one, would shlep to a blurry eyed bar to watch the (final) play off between our potential opponents- it'd add hella value to the game here knowing a bit about these boys from the tee-vee
Salmon072009-08-28 15:00:51

Salmon swim upstream

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Saudi Arabia 2-1 Malaysia
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31st August 2009
Bahrain v Iran

1st September 2009
Saudi Arabia v Malaysia

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When does Saudi v Bahrain play? this saturday sunday?

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darkhorse wrote:

When does Saudi v Bahrain play? this saturday sunday?

 4th/5th and the 9th I think

Botafogo - Rio de Janeiro and Wellington Phoenix, my two teams til death do us part.

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
cheers for that. It'll be interesting to see. I think Saudi will beat Bahrain. thats my prediction anyway.
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halu wrote:
31st August 2009
Bahrain v Iran

1st September 2009Saudi Arabia v Malaysia<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"></span>


Thanks halu . . . you don't say much but hell you are useful like Radar O'Reily on M.A.S.H.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
31 August 2009

Bahrain - Iran 4-2 (2-1)

Friendly match, Manama
Goals:
1-0 Abdulrahman (12')
2-0 Abdullatif (30')
2-1 Zandi (37' / Assist by Khalatbari)
3-1 Issa (54')
3-2 Zandi (83' / Penalty / Handball)
4-2 Adnan Mohammed (100' / Penalty)

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
They played a 100 minute match? Or had 10 minutes of injury time?

Btw, think it's the Abdulrahman guy who has a vicious left-footed free kick.
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I wonder if the Saudi Arabia vs Bahrain games will be on Iraqgoals...it would be interesting to watch them.


By my calculations it's about 3am NZT as I write this, but if anyone is up in time for the 7am (NZT) kickoff, both iraqgoals.com and bet365.com are going to show the Bahrain - Saudi game. You'll need to register with bet365 (free)


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Note that Bet365 seems to check whether coverage is allowed in the region. I've never been able to make it get beyond the "not available in your region" message.
 
There are a lot of feeds listed at:
using a mix of players.
 
IraqGoals aren't listed, though they usually have their schedule.
 
Eurosport2 have a high quality feed if your internet connection can take just under 900kbps.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
cool up nice and early to watch the game.  hopefully its worth it


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
ok 25 mins in. Still 0-0. 
Field looks poor and quite small.
Saudi have really great interplay so far


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
number 16 from Bahrain is a real menace. Cuts inside one player and blasts a curling shot from outside the box which the keeper only just saved


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my feed is fairly poor, but from what i've seen i think we can compete.
 
 
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Half time and its still 0-0

both teams are very counter attacking sides but Bahrain have had the most chances. NZ will have to shut them down in the midfield. Both teams are quick with the ball, but let themselves open when opposition starts running at them. All quite small too so hopefully our stronger lads can boss them off the ball.

Half time panel in quite comical too. Looks like they just came from the desert


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
i saw a couple of careless ball handling errors and some wild shots that give me hope!
 
yes, i also thought the pundits were a bit different from what i'm used to on match of the day.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
english commentary would be nice - would be good to learn about their players for a bit of build up to our playoff with them
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
2nd half about to begin.

Half time was really funny. Saudi adds for products and their soaps lol. Also a football add when the whole saudi crowd go crazy in the stadium and all the players on the field get these green wings and then smash their opponents lol.

Saudi Arabia fans give you wings.
Back to the action now


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
lack of finishing..... i like it  (both teams should have just scored, esp Barhrain)
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Both teams seem very cohesive and have good understanding, the AWs have to get more game time together. Neither side can finish to save their lives though.
You know we belong together...

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
20 to go. much more open attacking game. still 0-0 but both teams have created really dangerous chances and both have had crosses roll right in front the face of goal


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

they both seem to be doing a lot of the sort of stuff that makes being an AW fan frustrating.  fair comment?

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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
how did that miss??!!
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
THAT should have gone in!


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
0-0FT.


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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
well, i certainly wouldn't be putting us as favourites by any stretch of the imagination, but provided we don''t concede early, should be a competitive tie - which is all i really want (well, winning would be nice).  given the finishing i just saw, we will hopefully be safe from conceding early.
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
so how are the all whites playing?
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over 16 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Theyre not playing. Was saudi v Bahrain lol


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