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US of A up 1-0 early thanks to Weston McKennie.

Mexico v USA qualifier in March should be a cracker. Plenty at stake in that one.

Jamaica v Costa Rica remains 0-0 at H/T. Jamaica all but mathematically gone from the equation, Costa Rica needing a win to narrow up that four point gap between 4th and 5th in CONCACAF WCQ.

Costa Rica sneak it 1-0 over Jamaica to stay just a point below Panama in fourth. They play the Mexicans shortly. 

USMNT currently 3-0 up over Honduras which will put them in a pretty good spot to qualify automatically. 

Big game at the Azteca kicking off shortly.. 
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US of A up 1-0 early thanks to Weston McKennie.

Mexico v USA qualifier in March should be a cracker. Plenty at stake in that one.

Jamaica v Costa Rica remains 0-0 at H/T. Jamaica all but mathematically gone from the equation, Costa Rica needing a win to narrow up that four point gap between 4th and 5th in CONCACAF WCQ.

Costa Rica sneak it 1-0 over Jamaica to stay just a point below Panama in fourth. They play the Mexicans shortly. 

USMNT currently 3-0 up over Honduras which will put them in a pretty good spot to qualify automatically. 

Big game at the Azteca kicking off shortly.. 

Vamos Mexico. Game with big ramifications for who the AWs may play mid June.

Though there is another round of 3 full qualifiers for each team in March.

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It's nil at the Azteca. Consecutive 0-0 draws at their usual home fortress on the cards maybe for Mexico (pts). Playing without hostile home fans absolutely hurting them. Starting to smell a little bit like 2013 again!

Elsewhere
El Salvador  0 - 2  Canada
Jamaica  0 - 1  Costa Rica
United States  3 - 0  Honduras

Canada (1st, 25 pts) and USA (2nd, 21 pts) starting to look locked in for Qatar. Especially our Canadian friends. Three 2-0 wins in this window for them. Last 2 games (USA & El Salvador wins) have scored 2nd goal both times post 90 mins. All this without Alphonso Davies.

If it stays a draw in Mexico City, Canada would be 7 pts ahead of a 4th placed Panama, with 3 games left in March. Surely they can't cruelly blow it from there!!
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50 mins Mexico V Panama, still 0-0

Mexico had the ball in the net but goal correctly overturned by the VAR. From what I saw of the first half the All Whites would really struggle against Panama... and have no show vs Mexico.
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Penalty for Mexico!

...And he scores! Cue the 20 second long 'gooooooooaaaaaaal' from the Spanish commentary.
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It’s weird, cause Mexican commentators tend to favour the “gol gol gol gol gol gol gol gol gol gol gol” more then the “goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooll” which is more Argentinian and Uruguayan commentators (i used to be a football radio commentator in Argentina, my lungs are tough as a rock thanks to this)

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Penalty for Mexico!

...And he scores! Cue the 20 second long 'gooooooooaaaaaaal' from the Spanish commentary.
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50 mins Mexico V Panama, still 0-0

Mexico had the ball in the net but goal correctly overturned by the VAR. From what I saw of the first half the All Whites would really struggle against Panama... and have no show vs Mexico.

they would also be screwed against Costa Rica
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Finishes 1-0 Mexico. They go level with USA (both 21 pts) but sit 3rd on GD behind the Americans. Canada 1st (25 pts).

Panama 4th (17 pts) & Costa Rica 5th (16 pts).

3 games each team in March window. 

Mexico have USA (H), Honduras (A) & El Salvador (H). They shouldn't finish 4th now, especially if the Covid rules are relaxed to have full house crowds come March. Their last 2 opponents have nothing to play for. 
USA have Mexico (A), Panama (H) & Costa Rica (A). 3 tough games. They are probably more likely to strike trouble than Mexico.
Panama have Honduras (H), USA (A) & Canada (H). They could win all 3 especially if the Canadians having already qualified play a 'B' side in Panama.
Costa Rica have Canada (H), El Salvador (A) & USA (H). 2 tough games, but host both.

I'd put money on Panama for 4th now and the playoff spot. Costa Rica are a chance, and even the USA with 3 hard games are a slimmer chance to drop down behind Canada, Mexico & Panama

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50 mins Mexico V Panama, still 0-0

Mexico had the ball in the net but goal correctly overturned by the VAR. From what I saw of the first half the All Whites would really struggle against Panama... and have no show vs Mexico.

they would also be screwed against Costa Rica
 
Bit pessimistic, Panama only scraped past Curaçao 2-1 and 0-0, and we beat Curacao with the first match in two years. Also in 2017 at the Confeds a much weaker All Whites team should’ve beaten, and were a post away from drawing, against a much better Mexico team. People said we’d get pumped in Wellington against Peru, yet drew and only lost 2-0 away, and we don’t have an away leg this time.
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Over 90 mins in a one off high stakes game anything can happen. OFC team (hopefully AWs) will be the underdogs, but I'm expecting a tense nail bitter.

Absolutely crucial that if it is the AWs, that they go in on the back of 1-2 tough quality friendlies late May-early June. Jordan game showed you can't expect to do well if half your team haven't played for a month or so. 
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Over 90 mins in a one off high stakes game anything can happen. OFC team (hopefully AWs) will be the underdogs, but I'm expecting a tense nail bitter.

Absolutely crucial that if it is the AWs, that they go in on the back of 1-2 tough quality friendlies late May-early June. Jordan game showed you can't expect to do well if half your team haven't played for a month or so. 

so which countries in europe or Qatar should the All whites schedule friendlies against?. UEFA and CONCACAF teams are busy with their nations league, I think CAF teams have AFCON 2023 qualifiers so that leaves AFC or CONMEBOL teams for a friendly or two.
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Canada have all but qualified now. USA and Mexico should have done enough and probably only need one win more. 

As expected it's between Panama and Costa Rica now for a playoff spot imo.

My money (and preference) is on the Panamanians 
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Agree with the likely outcomes given here ...
1) Canada need 1 pt to guarantee top 3 qualification
2) USA have their 3 games against 3rd,4th&5th place so could finish 1st-5th
3) Mexico host the USA in the 1st March game then vs Honduras & El Salvador, who are out of contention, so fairly likely top 3.
4&5) Panama & Costa Rica both have USA & Canada but as noted Canada likely to be thru by final March game which Panama host.
So guestimate % for 4th spot (& Oceania winner playoff) would be Panama 65%, Costa Rica 25%, USA / Mexico 9% and Canada 1%
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Over 90 mins in a one off high stakes game anything can happen. OFC team (hopefully AWs) will be the underdogs, but I'm expecting a tense nail bitter.

Absolutely crucial that if it is the AWs, that they go in on the back of 1-2 tough quality friendlies late May-early June. Jordan game showed you can't expect to do well if half your team haven't played for a month or so. 

so which countries in europe or Qatar should the All whites schedule friendlies against?. UEFA and CONCACAF teams are busy with their nations league, I think CAF teams have AFCON 2023 qualifiers so that leaves AFC or CONMEBOL teams for a friendly or two.

Warm up game against the Socceroos! At this rate they’ll be heading for the playoffs as well. 

*don’t want to get too ahead of myself so edited to say obviously we still need to get past the OFC qualifiers first. Back the lads to get that job done tho even with the obvious logistical issues. 
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Interesting stat, out of the Panama current squad five players are playing for unattached fc.

When you look at the quality of this qualifying tournament we are in for a tough ride however as I think we would be underdogs against Jamaica and probably even Honduras  
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Yep I agree friendlies before the intercontinental playoff will be crucial. It's a fine balance though because you obviously need opposition that will be well drilled and provide a challenge but you don't want to get walked over and demoralise the boys before the big game. If its only South American teams and Asian teams available would a run of Bolivia and Oman or Vietnam be a good trial run for the lads? Tough enough opposition while still a chance of being able to have the edge over the opposition. Otherwise maybe it would be more feasible in the current climate to organise friendlies against whoever the other nations are in the second intercontinental playoff bracket. Hypothetically  Australia and Peru, and those two sides also have a friendly against Costa Rica/Panama in the same window. 
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Watching earlier, the thing that surprised me the most about Panama is how big/physical they were (unless the Mexicans were just all small in comparison!). By historical All Whites standards our current team is pretty lightweight so we wont even have the typical physical dominance.  

Still a few games to go so lots can still happen with regards to the opponent... The US still has to play Mexico away,  Panama at home and CR away. If they lose the home match to Panama inparticular I could see them slipping to 4th.
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Did everyone see this goal in the Canada vs El Salvador match today? Skip to 3 mins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awN2ODSim2c&ab_channel=OneSoccer
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Over 90 mins in a one off high stakes game anything can happen. OFC team (hopefully AWs) will be the underdogs, but I'm expecting a tense nail bitter.

Absolutely crucial that if it is the AWs, that they go in on the back of 1-2 tough quality friendlies late May-early June. Jordan game showed you can't expect to do well if half your team haven't played for a month or so. 

so which countries in europe or Qatar should the All whites schedule friendlies against?. UEFA and CONCACAF teams are busy with their nations league, I think CAF teams have AFCON 2023 qualifiers so that leaves AFC or CONMEBOL teams for a friendly or two.

Warm up game against the Socceroos! At this rate they’ll be heading for the playoffs as well. 

*don’t want to get too ahead of myself so edited to say obviously we still need to get past the OFC qualifiers first. Back the lads to get that job done tho even with the obvious logistical issues. 

Unfortunately AFC playoff (two 3rd placed teams against each other) is scheduled I think late May/early June.

So that will rule out Socceroos for a friendly unless they are already Qatar bound having finished top 2 in their pool 
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Watching earlier, the thing that surprised me the most about Panama is how big/physical they were (unless the Mexicans were just all small in comparison!). By historical All Whites standards our current team is pretty lightweight so we wont even have the typical physical dominance.  

Still a few games to go so lots can still happen with regards to the opponent... The US still has to play Mexico away,  Panama at home and CR away. If they lose the home match to Panama inparticular I could see them slipping to 4th.

I watched Panama verus Costa Rica. Yes Panamanians are big boys. They had at least 3 well over 6 ft plus athletic guys. Definite big set piece threat

They should have beaten CR away in San Jose. As others have said an aging CR I think we would prefer to play
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Did everyone see this goal in the Canada vs El Salvador match today? Skip to 3 mins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awN2ODSim2c&ab_channel=OneSoccer

Truly bizarre. Here is the goal in isolation. Scorer 38 yr old Atiba Hutchinson, is at Besiktas (been there 9 seasons) and used to play with Tyler Boyd.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1999158851645

Also little hint if folks want to easy Link an article use the 3rd icon in the Tool Bar (after B & I)



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Yep I agree friendlies before the intercontinental playoff will be crucial. It's a fine balance though because you obviously need opposition that will be well drilled and provide a challenge but you don't want to get walked over and demoralise the boys before the big game. If its only South American teams and Asian teams available would a run of Bolivia and Oman or Vietnam be a good trial run for the lads? Tough enough opposition while still a chance of being able to have the edge over the opposition. Otherwise maybe it would be more feasible in the current climate to organise friendlies against whoever the other nations are in the second intercontinental playoff bracket. Hypothetically  Australia and Peru, and those two sides also have a friendly against Costa Rica/Panama in the same window. 

I think a pre Intercontinental playoff friendly, against the 5th CONEMBOL side would be a great idea.

Tough game, but unlikely to get thrashed against a Colombia, Peru or Uruguay with a full strength AWs side. They are not Brazil or Argentina. Plus AWs will genuinely need a tough game to prepare them for the CONCACAF side, if as expected they win the OFC tourney pretty easily.

Minor thing maybe but they will have simulation of an opponent yabbering in Spanish on the field. That's useful stuff heading into a likely game against Panama or Costa Rica.

Also could market the fixture to the 5th CONEMBOL team, that AWs are a close simulation of the Socceroos. There is I'd say almost a 50% chance now that Australia will be the 5th AFC team, and into the playoff against CONEMBOL side.

Of course Arnold & the FFA may not be best pleased if NZF were seen as helping the 5th Sth American team in any way prepare for that AFC/CONEMBOL playoff scenario. But not sure with international men's football NZF owes the FFA much. After all the FFA haven't found time to play the AWs once in 11 years now. Even with a congested international calendar for AFC teams like Australia, that's pretty criminal.


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Did everyone see this goal in the Canada vs El Salvador match today? Skip to 3 mins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awN2ODSim2c&ab_channel=OneSoccer

Truly bizarre. Here is the goal in isolation. Scorer 38 yr old Atiba Hutchinson, is at Besiktas (been there 9 seasons) and used to play with Tyler Boyd.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1999158851645

Also little hint if folks want to easy Link an article use the 3rd icon in the Tool Bar (after B & I)




what an odd goal, header to the post, bounces back onto the defender and the onto the back of the prone striker into goal - can see why the El Salvador players wanted a goal kick but the ball clearly doesnt cross the line.
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Just a note that Mexico is playing in front of empty or near-empty stadiums in all but one of their matches because of FIFA sanctions over homophobic chants, not covid. Covid will cap likely capacity at half for the US match (unless there are more sanctions, which is possible, allegedly the chant occurred v Costa Rica even with 1,000 people there, though I didn’t hear it) so there should be 40,000 people there.

Canada is trying to be the second team to go unbeaten in this stage of qualifying and obviously it is going to take an extra four matches to do so. They are also trying to fight their way into Pot 3 of the World Cup draw. So there is still motivation there. It sounds trivial, but Herdman has been really good about getting them to care about little things like that to keep the level up. If they don’t lose in Costa Rica (or at home to Jamaica, to be fair), I think they will still be pretty motivated in Panama even if there is nothing to play for. Canada has had a lot of squad rotation and still aren’t quite over the line, so that last-day team shouldn’t be too experimental, it will be players who have played a role to date and those depth players should be trying to prove they belong in the 23 next November when they get a chance to start against an opponent with a lot to play for.

Panama is a much better team than they were against Curacao. They’ve done a very good job turning the squad over from the old side that went to Russia. They had a little dip in this past window, but I didn't think their play was significantly poorer. They were the better side against Costa Rica and they could have gotten something out of the Azteca. As noted, they’re big and athletic.

If Mexico beats the U.S. and Panama beats Honduras, the pressure is on the Americans to win at home against Panama. A draw leaves the Americans with a lot of work to do heading down to Costa Rica where they have traditionally struggled.
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Yipe is a definitely still a chance that the States could end up 4th, with Mexico, Panama & Costa Rica to play in the March window. 

Certainly more of a chance they could finish there than Mexico, who have Honduras & El Salvador as their last 2 games.

But overall you'd favour it will be Panama or CR in that playoff spot.




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Did everyone see this goal in the Canada vs El Salvador match today? Skip to 3 mins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awN2ODSim2c&ab_channel=OneSoccer

Truly bizarre. Here is the goal in isolation. Scorer 38 yr old Atiba Hutchinson, is at Besiktas (been there 9 seasons) and used to play with Tyler Boyd.

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1999158851645

Also little hint if folks want to easy Link an article use the 3rd icon in the Tool Bar (after B & I)




Thanks for posting that. Crazy goal alright. The poor keeper flapping in vain to keep it out!
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Yipe is a definitely still a chance that the States could end up 4th, with Mexico, Panama & Costa Rica to play in the March window. 

Certainly more of a chance they could finish there than Mexico, who have Honduras & El Salvador as their last 2 games.

But overall you'd favour it will be Panama or CR in that playoff spot.





I haven’t seen too much of the US team play recently but to anyone who watches them do you think we’d have more a chance against them than Panama/Costa Rica?

I feel we tend to struggle a bit more against teams with that “South American” flair ala Mexico\Costa Rica etc whereas we got a good result against the US last time we played them (although very different scenarios vs a winner take all play off).

The biggest challenge I think is the fact these teams have played a large number of high stakes games together over the past 2 years compared to us. Hopefully the OFC qualifiers will give the squad a bit of a taste of that albeit on a much smaller scale. Also the fact Hay is going to have to mix n match the squad for the first 2 games because of that ridiculous scheduling decision won’t help.




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Yipe is a definitely still a chance that the States could end up 4th, with Mexico, Panama & Costa Rica to play in the March window. 

Certainly more of a chance they could finish there than Mexico, who have Honduras & El Salvador as their last 2 games.

But overall you'd favour it will be Panama or CR in that playoff spot.





I haven’t seen too much of the US team play recently but to anyone who watches them do you think we’d have more a chance against them than Panama/Costa Rica?

I feel we tend to struggle a bit more against teams with that “South American” flair ala Mexico\Costa Rica etc whereas we got a good result against the US last time we played them (although very different scenarios vs a winner take all play off).

The biggest challenge I think is the fact these teams have played a large number of high stakes games together over the past 2 years compared to us. Hopefully the OFC qualifiers will give the squad a bit of a taste of that albeit on a much smaller scale. Also the fact Hay is going to have to mix n match the squad for the first 2 games because of that ridiculous scheduling decision won’t help.




 
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Yipe is a definitely still a chance that the States could end up 4th, with Mexico, Panama & Costa Rica to play in the March window. 

Certainly more of a chance they could finish there than Mexico, who have Honduras & El Salvador as their last 2 games.

But overall you'd favour it will be Panama or CR in that playoff spot.





I haven’t seen too much of the US team play recently but to anyone who watches them do you think we’d have more a chance against them than Panama/Costa Rica?

I feel we tend to struggle a bit more against teams with that “South American” flair ala Mexico\Costa Rica etc whereas we got a good result against the US last time we played them (although very different scenarios vs a winner take all play off).

The biggest challenge I think is the fact these teams have played a large number of high stakes games together over the past 2 years compared to us. Hopefully the OFC qualifiers will give the squad a bit of a taste of that albeit on a much smaller scale. Also the fact Hay is going to have to mix n match the squad for the first 2 games because of that ridiculous scheduling decision won’t help.





My understanding is the States have a host of young, very talented players. Pulisic (age 23, only a sub in their last game), Weah (21), Pepi (19), McKennie (23), de la Torre (23) etc. Those last 4 guys all started against Honduras (a 3-0 win).
https://us.soccerway.com/matches/2022/02/03/nc-america/wc-qualifying-concacaf/united-states-of-america/honduras/3517526/


Where they may sometimes have come unstuck, is blending in the MLS based crew (mostly a bit older), with the talented young players based in Euro land.

Yeah AWs managed a 1-1 draw in 2016 under Huddo, but from memory that was a pretty 2nd strength US team (all local MLS guys?). And that USA side failed to finish in even the top 4 CONCACAF sides in 2017 (missing out on Russia).

Your point stands though, that the big advantage the CONCACAF playoff team (likely Panama or CR, not the US) will have - is going in off a tough, knife edge qualifying campaign. Friendlies in neutral ME with no crowds, don't go close to simulating that. 

It's where the old Confeds Cup was so handy (2009 & 2017), pre the Intercontinental Playoffs. 3 tough meaningful pool games, in front of crowds. No coincidence perhaps that the AWs worse performance in the Playoffs (Mexico 2013), came in off the back of failing to be at 2013 Confeds in Brazil (ie post Horror in Honiara)
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we also have to be aware that Panama or Costa Rica will play two concacaf nations league games in the first window in June before playing against us. Wonder if that benefits or disadvantages them?
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Who ever will be reping Oceania will need to play better warm up matches then Oman/Vietnam.  In 2010 we played a number of decent teams in Europe including Serbia who we beat (a FIFA top 10 side at the time).  Confeds Cup aside, we've not had many games like those games in Austria/Slovenia since.
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CONCACAF qualifying resumes this week. Final 3 games in this window.
Presumably Hay & Co will leave any viewing until end of the OFC tourney, after which hopefully they will be doing the analysis in earnest.

Current standings
Canada
1st (25 pts)
United States 2nd (21 pts)
Mexico 3rd (21 pts)
Panama 4th (17 pts) - playoff spot
Costa Rica 5th  (16 pts)

Mexico have USA (H), Honduras (A) & El Salvador (H). They shouldn't finish 4th now, especially as I think crowds are now allowed back at the Azteca. Was an empty stadium back in March, because of a ban due to homophobic chanting previously (not Covid related). Azteca is an intimidating place full. Their last 2 opponents have nothing to play for.
USA have Mexico (A), Panama (H) & Costa Rica (A). 3 tough games. They are more likely to strike trouble than Mexico.
Panama have Honduras (H), USA (A) & Canada (H). They could win all 3 especially if the Canadians having already qualified play a 'B' side in Panama. Though think someone said that is unlikely with FIFA ranking spots & therefore WC draw (being done April?) positioning on the line.
Costa Rica have Canada (H), El Salvador (A) & USA (H). 2 tough games, but host both.

I'd put money on Panama for 4th now and the playoff spot. Costa Rica are a chance, and even the USA with 3 hard games are a lower chance to drop down behind Canada, Mexico & Panama

24th March 2022
Panama vs. Honduras
Jamaica vs. El Salvador
Mexico vs. USA  - one to watch
Costa Rica vs. Canada

27th March 2022
El Salvador vs. Costa Rica
Canada vs. Jamaica
USA vs. Panama
Honduras vs. Mexico

30th March 2022
Panama vs. Canada
Costa Rica vs. USA
Mexico vs. El Salvador
Jamaica vs. Honduras

Tyler Boyd missed selection for USMNT, who will be a bit nervous heading into their last 3 games. They have never won a WC qualifying game in either Mexico or Costa Rica. They of course chocked in Trinidad 4 years ago in a huge shock, missing out on Russia.
https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2022/3/17/22983852/usa-usmnt-world-cup-qualifying-roster-march-window-gregg-berhalter-mexico-panama-costa-rica-azteca

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Today's games, in kickoff order. 3 games in this last qualifying window.
https://us.soccerway.com/international/nc-america/wc-qualifying-concacaf/2022-qatar/2nd-round/r44081/

24th March 2022
Jamaica vs. El Salvador
Panama vs. Honduras
Mexico vs. USA  - one to watch
Costa Rica vs. Canada - another to keep an eye on
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If Costa Rica manage to pip one over a 10 man Canada is that more advantageous to us or are we wanting Canada to be well clear at the top and not  have to worry about them sliding down?
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Looks likely we'll play Costa Rica even if they don't beat Canada. Panama's next two games against Canada and USA not sure they'll get any points out of those games. Costa Rica has El Salvador and USA so will probs get at least 1 point.
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With Panama drawing, Canada have all but qualified if my math's are any good. Only team outside top 3 that can catch them now are Costa Rica and they'd have to hold on today, win their next 2 and have a massive goal differential swing to catch the Canadians. 
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Fulltime in Concacaf: 3 draws (Jam v El Sal, Pan v Hon & Mex v US) and Costa Rica win 1-0 v Canada. (Despite this their 1st loss Canada are 99% qualified)

Points: Canada 25 (GD+13), US 22 (+9), Mexico 22 (+6), Costa Rica (now in playoff spot) 19 (+2) & Panama 18 (+1). El Salvador cannot make 4th place now along with Jamaica and Honduras.
Two games to go & playoff spot almost certainly for Costa Rica or Panama now.
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Costa Rica must be odds-on now? Bit of a shame for us, as they appear much stronger on paper than Panama. 
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Costa Rica must be odds-on now? Bit of a shame for us, as they appear much stronger on paper than Panama. 
 
Of the 16 players Costa Rica used today featured 14 guys are playing in CONCACAF (2 in MLS, 1 in Mexico and 12 in Costa Rica). The other two are at Millionarios in Colombia and PSG (Navas). They have a few residuals from their quarterfinal team in Brazil in Bryan Ruiz (36), Keylor Navas (35), Bryan Oviedo (32) and Joel Campbell (29) (probably more though).

Worth noting today’s win was at home, and Canada were down to 10 men from the 34th minute, at 0-0. They also have the advantage of playing El Salvador next and if they win that, and Panama fail to beat a yet-to-qualify US in Florida, then Costa Rica will have secured 4th with one game to go. 

Panama has a few players in Chile, MLS, Spain, Germany, so they might possibly be better on paper, but I haven’t watched either.

Whichever team finishes in 4th, they’ll be in 4th because they were better than the other though, but worse than the top 3. Seems pretty self-explanatory but it is what it is.
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New Zealand should definitely schedule a friendly against the fifth place conmebol team before June 13th

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