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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Dave57 wrote:
smithy246 wrote:
Dave57 wrote:
Its more anyone with any sence choses to go there. There is no arguement that the kids there get the best coaching and oppertunity. I advise kids that i coach and ref that Wgtn Coll is the best option.
 
That's a big call.  For the last few years I think St Pat's Stream has had the better football programme.  St Pat's Town and Rongotai have also come a long way in recent years.
 
Only St Pat's Stream, HIBS and Scot's College that I'm aware of provide a dedicated, qualified, football coach to take the 1st XI (McIntyre, Harrahap and Quijada respectively).  Other schools, including Wellington College, rely on having a keen teacher.
 
Whether anyone can claim that Wellington College has a "football programme" is extremely debatable for mine, and I'm a Coll old boy!
 
Schools in Wellington aren't better or worse than clubs.  Players have to play for them and I think there is little or no difference for players between staying with a club and playing for their College.  Elite development gets done at rep and Fed level anyway. 
 
What is disappointing is the dire state of the 1st XI league and the JPL at 15/16s.  Football in Wellington needs a unified competition accessible to all players between the ages of 15 and 17.  At the moment they are split between Schools, Clubs and sitting on the bench for their club's Reserve teams.  It's a massive developmental hole that kids fall into and is the single biggest f**k up for junior football in this City.
 
 
 
It is a big call but i think its accurate.
 
Firstly Rongotai are crap at the moment with their 1st team not even in the Premier league and playing against WC 2nds.
 
Also Wgtn College are coached by are teacher tho he is NZSS coach and is decent enought to recieve calls from the german FA during class. Not to mention Ross Durant (wgtn Utd 1st team coach) coaching 2nds and Charlie Howe (team wgtn assistant coach) coaching U15s. Anyway a record of 7 U15 NZ reps, a NZ SS rep and an U20s rep speaks for itself.
 
I remember watching anAll Whites match a few yrs ago where at least 5 of the starting players were old boys.
 
I agree with the last paragrapgh. Particulaly with smaller schools. Paraparaumu and Tawa are hit pretty badly and it also stops Hutt Vally High playing Premier youth as all their good players play club.
 
 
Wgtn College are not as good as they were anymore,the team that used to feature the likes of Bertos,Patrick,Borwn etc were above anything they have now.
 
Only in the last ten years have Wgtn College become the number one school-St Pats Town,Rongotai have previously held this position and is a reflection in the better players that have come out of theses schools and the fact the better All Whites players have come from these schools. 
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
schools dont make football players. they just claim them as their own.
 
anyhow in my age group anyone who was a serious football player played for both club and school. guys like dan keat (NZ U20) and richie mclay (NZSS) played for club, school and country.


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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
club gets all the credit from me, dident play school for the last two years at school i was there. went to club instead and made cap1 in my 2nd year of senior football and i think i made the right choice im alot better then i ever was at school, dont get me wrong school teams have some good coaches but once you hit seniors at club its a totaly different game to school stuff alot more physical ect and faster pace so better touch is required ect. college grade have some good players but the play can be scrappy at times and you only realise club/seniors is alot better when you go back and play college players in under 19s and realise there vision is a little week, i would rather schools let there players make seniors and learn more about the game eairler playing a better standard imo rather then playing other players your skill and age its better to play in a higher standard and learn from the better players. all the good players in school grade the top ones like blackburn ect all play club stuff and i dont think he gets better from his school stuff where he probley dosent try to hard riise2008-01-21 23:15:11
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
riise wrote:
club gets all the credit from me, dident play school for the last two years at school i was there. went to club instead and made cap1 in my 2nd year of senior football and i think i made the right choice im alot better then i ever was at school, dont get me wrong school teams have some good coaches but once you hit seniors at club its a totaly different game to school stuff alot more physical ect and faster pace so better touch is required ect. college grade have some good players but the play can be scrappy at times and you only realise club/seniors is alot better when you go back and play college players in under 19s and realise there vision is a little week, i would rather schools let there players make seniors and learn more about the game eairler playing a better standard imo rather then playing other players your skill and age its better to play in a higher standard and learn from the better players. all the good players in school grade the top ones like blackburn ect all play club stuff and i dont think he gets better from his school stuff where he probley dosent try to hard 
 
I'd agree with that. In college teams there are no older/experienced players to learn off.
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
exactly you learn alot more from experienced players with solid play then the little flash tricks in the college grades
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
riise, i applaud you. for a kid born in 1989 (as per ya profile) you sure have a good understanding of the "experience vs flashy tricks" theory.

i had the fortune to learn from guys like Martin Disley, Terry Boylan etc......

more young footballers like this please
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
well alot of my mates think there college grade is better then the senior stuff and even though they may play agasint some good players they dont have experience, i train with ex central league players and learn alot more just training with them than i can in a college grade which has very good players but not so much an understanding of the game, i wish some of the better players in college like one of my mates played club instead they would progress alot faster and learn more about the game, if all the good college players did this they would still play the players the think are better then senrior guys but in a grade that has some vison tactics ect
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about 18 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
riise wrote:
well alot of my mates think there college grade is better then the senior stuff and even though they may play agasint some good players they dont have experience, i train with ex central league players and learn alot more just training with them than i can in a college grade which has very good players but not so much an understanding of the game, i wish some of the better players in college like one of my mates played club instead they would progress alot faster and learn more about the game, if all the good college players did this they would still play the players the think are better then senrior guys but in a grade that has some vison tactics ect
 
can i ask did u try get into your cellege 1st x1 first? and fail?
and what division do you play in senior? seeming your playing with "ex central league players" whats their names?
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