Let's have it, your memories of everything from thumping Mexico 4-0
in 1980 to being at the World Cup in 1982 with our very own All
Whites.
So was Ricki Herbert in the game against Mexico?
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Must say 30,000 All Whites fans at Mount Smart created an atmosphere. The Navy lads turned up with song sheets, so there were a core of 200 singing. But 30,000 expectant fans cheering the All Whites along was great.
Having half the country stay up to 4 in the morning to watch
the All Whites play Saudi Arabia, was special, they had to win by
five goals to keep their dreams alive. Massive ratings for
the final play off against China in Singapore too.
It was big, just very big.
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My biggest buzz was when a mate and I went up to Singapore for the
ultimate game against China.
We were in a very crowded stadium,with very few Kiwis' around
us.When I waved the supporters scarf I was told that I couldn't as
it was considered a political banner!!! But when the Chinese scored
all of a sudden all theses chinese flags appeared and nothing was
done about it,so much for a neutral venue.
After the game we went ot the team's hotel and got plastered
,the hotel put on a great spread and booze , for those who haven't
been to Singapore drinking is a very expensive hobby.
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4-0 vs mexico 20/08/80
(brian turner 2, grant turner, steve wooddin)
van hattum - hill, r armstrong, bright, HERBERT - sumner,
mackay, g turner - ormond, b turner, wooddin. subs m armstrong,
billett, campbell
what a team! pity ian ormond wasn't still around for the
82 world cup
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The ground was packed. Had an average view at the opposite end to
the clubrooms in the corner. The 3-3 draw versus Australia on Anzac
day 1981 was a highlight. What about canman? He would be about 42.
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My greatest memory is of my uncles telling me everything about our
qualification path and the incredible excitement it created within
this country.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Jeez, I saw Ormonde in a National League match. He was
magic.
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The Saudi game - could well be more remarkable than Liverpool
coming back from 3 - 0, All Whites had to score 5 and did it
by half time.
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Buzzer Mackay = Rubbish One of Fallons Bum Boys
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Grant Turner's headed goal from, christ what was it.. 20 metres out
at least, in the away game against Australia was awesome. Best
headed goal I've seen, and still is.
And that 2-0 result effectively ended Rudi Gutendorf's
career as Socceroos coach too.
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Grant Turner's headed goal from, christ what was it.. 20 metres out
at least, in the away game against Australia was awesome. Best
headed goal I've seen, and still is.
And that 2-0 result effectively ended Rudi Gutendorf's
career as Socceroos coach too.
I think it was 50 metres and the sun was in his eyes . . .
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magic days. was buzzer really that bad? i was about 8 at the
time, so had to take my clues from an old TVNZ video that i found
at the back of a video store in the nineties
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Any advance on 50 metres for GT's headed goal. Wasn't there a 200kph wind blowing his way as well?
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and bricks in his boots that restricted his jump to 2 meters off
the ground
how'd it go? almond intercept, out to woddin, 45 degree
switch ball to cole, cole crosses to turner...
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team that day:
wilson - hill, dodds, almond, HERBERT - cole, mackay, sumner -
g turner, b turner, wooddin
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Has anyone read Sam Malcomson's book? It's not bad. Not enough
scandal though. Goes on about the keeper thing for a bit too long
Founder
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what was the deal behind wilson's dumping?
i was going to buy the book, but he kept shamelessly plugging
it and danny hay in his column
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I got the book (well once I get it back from my mate).
Don't think there was too much in it - just went for FVH's
strengths. Was hoping that the reasons were a bit more
sordid.
Founder
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I got the book (well once I get it back from my mate).
Don't think there was too much in it - just went for FVH's
strengths. Was hoping that the reasons were a bit more
sordid.
I heard that Richard Wilson pissed in Adshead's water bottle
for a gag, which horribably back-fired
All I do is make the stuff I would've liked
Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight
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That was when beating Japan 5-0 was normal and South Korea was a
win or a draw and the toughest thing about Indonesia was chosing
the food.
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I remember watching the All Whites play Watford (I think including
John Branes) at Athletic Park in front of around 25k.
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Coupla things;
1) The Ormond that played vs Mexico was younger brother
Duncan, not the older Ian.
2) Hadn't heard the "piss in bottle" story, but Wilson was a
volatile character whereas van Hattum had a very placid
temperament. van Hattum was also a better allround keeper, who was
offered a contract at Feyenoord after Spain 82 but it was canned
when the club holding his registration in NZ - Manurewa - demanded
a transfer fee of $30,000NZ. That must've hurt.
3) There were two very distinct camps in that AWs squad; the
Gisborne and Manurewa camps. The two coaches clashed quite a bit
over the merits of their own players vs the merits of the other's.
With hindsight, it's quite amazing that the squad did actually get
on as well as they did.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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This won't happen again either i mean in the future we may qualify
for World Cups but i can't see it being this exciting or dramatic
or having this much of an impact on the entire country.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Buffon II, you may be right but just looking at the recent cricket
world cup where we qualified for the finals that didn't catch the
nations attention at all. No excitement, no drama...nothing like
the 1982 All Whites campaign. Pretty hard to replicate these
things. I mean I attended the 1999 Confederations Cup in Mexico and
that was just the best time. The supporters and fans we went with
had the time of our lives, interacting with players and their
families and the team played some great football against USA,
German and Brasil - but we tried to replicate all that at the
France 2003 Confed Cup and it was an unmitigated disaster.
It's nice to look back and reflect on the good times but we've
got to look forward and move with the times. I'm sure if the All
Whites can win the OFC WCQ's, interest will build. Its who we play
after that that becomes the vital thing. Win the next group and who
know show the country will react. Australia went off when they made
the last World Cup. Never say never dude:-)
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Fantastic memories of the 82 team. Watched every game.
My folks took me up to watch China in Auckland, 1-0 to NZ
Herbert scored that day. Have a copy of the book Road to
Spain and have read it a number of times, never get sick of
it. Wish there was a hi-lights package on DVD
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It could easily be arranged. I have the 1 hour video at home, and
also a 1 hour cassette from Replay Radio of commentary highlights
of the campaign. I should sort out transfering them both to modern
mediums.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Was at school when this happened and remember learnig we had scored
to make it 2-3 to scotland then crumbled to lose 2-5. enjoyed
watching Brazil toy with us.
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It could easily be arranged. I have the 1 hour video at home, and
also a 1 hour cassette from Replay Radio of commentary highlights
of the campaign. I should sort out transfering them both to modern
mediums.
Yes that would be a great idea, id certainly be keen on
a copy to re-live those glory days
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I was lucky to go to almost every game , the only games I missed
were the 13 nil drubbing of the Fijians I was in Bermuda at the
time ,the local paper had an article about it and the the
games in Kuwait and Saudi Arabria , I was too chicken to go there
after the incident at Mt Smart.
The most enjoyable game in the first round was the leason the
All Whites gave to the Australians, the Sydney Morning Herald had a
full pages spread on the "mighty Socceroos " and all they had about
the Al Whites was the team list, well say no more except that the
natives were not that friendly after the game.
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Any advance on 50 metres for GT's headed goal. Wasn't there a 200kph wind blowing his way as well?
What's sight without sound? Love without peace? Copulation without conception?
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BT's goal against Aussie was simply magic.
I remember Herberts headed goal, accidently punching the beam
in the lounge (ouch!) when Rufer scored the winner against China
from what seemed like halfway, Woodin and Sumners' goals against
Scotland (that eliminated the Scots as they missed out on GD),
losing count of the number of times the commentator exclaimed
"ZICO" against Brasil, that Wilson set a record for the number of
minutes without conceeding a goal and NZ a record for the number of
games played to qualify for a WC. Oh, and feeling sorry that the
cops had caught the guy that threw the can at the ref in the Kuwait
game.
Apparently, the Kuwaiti's arrived in NZ with a briefcase full
of cash and didn't leave with it so the story is they bought the
ref.
Also, I saw an interview with Adshead where he said Wilson got
dropped on performance for a couple of bad games and soft goals
toward the end of the campaign.
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BT's goal against Aussie was simply magic.
I remember Herberts headed goal, accidently punching the beam
in the lounge (ouch!) when Rufer scored the winner against China
from what seemed like halfway, Woodin and Sumners' goals against
Scotland (that eliminated the Scots as they missed out on GD),
losing count of the number of times the commentator exclaimed
"ZICO" against Brasil, that Wilson set a record for the number of
minutes without conceeding a goal and NZ a record for the number of
games played to qualify for a WC. Oh, and feeling sorry that the
cops had caught the guy that threw the can at the ref in the Kuwait
game.
Apparently, the Kuwaiti's arrived in NZ with a briefcase full
of cash and didn't leave with it so the story is they bought the
ref.
Also, I saw an interview with Adshead where he said Wilson got
dropped on performance for a couple of bad games and soft goals
toward the end of the campaign.
Hard to see what he did wrong against Saudi
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G'olé! : OFFICIAL FIFA FILM OF THE 1982 WORLD CUP SCREENING ON ESPN TUESDAY
"FIFA Official Film of the 1982 World Cup" - ESPN Tuesday 6 am
(Narrated by Sean Connery! Music by Rick Wakeman!)
Worth copying to DVD !!!
Relive those great memories of '82 (or experience them for the first time if you're a young 'un) with ESPN's "FIFA Official Films" series screening the feature documentary of the 1982 Finals. Story of and review of the tournament with highlights (101 minutes).
Yes, there was a time when the official film of the World Cup was a big event and it screened in cinemas around the world as well as on TV (except not in the backwater of NZ of course).
These films are great - last week was "Argentina 1978" - you get match highlights and stories from the tournament.
I think the 1982 film has "behind-the-scenes" with the All Whites in their dressing room - they were the only team to grant access if my memory serves me correctly.
"G'olé! is the official documentary film of the 1982 FIFA World Cup held in Spain.
The film is narrated by Sean Connery and the score was written by Rick Wakeman. It tells the story of the 1982 FIFA World Cupwhich was won by Italy who beat West Germany in the final. It also highlights New Zealand - who played the most games in order to qualify - and Cameroon - a rising African force."
Amazingly, Rick Wakeman's soundtrack was even released as an album. Listen to it here:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/gole%21-mw0000453063
Yes, there was a time when the All Whites were sound-tracked by Rick Wakeman!!!
If you don't have Sky TV the series of films is currently daily on the BBC and a new film is available every day on "BBC iPlayer" on demand for a week after broadcast (currently up to "England '66"):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qq861/episodes/player
Install the necessary free software on your computer to access the territorially-restricted BBC iPlayer:
(You turn it on with a click whenever you want to access a territorially-restricted site and choose which country the site is located - it fools the restricted site into thinking you are in that country)
Reviews:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084011/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
"Highlights? Well, we get to see the New Zealand coach swear at his players for five minutes (apparently it was a half-time pep talk)."
"You see it all! Two very different, and yet ironic, beginnings of young careers: Maradona's first World Cup for Argentina and the young Norman Whiteside of Northern Ireland. The perennial greats: Italy, West Germany, Brazil and not to mention the great Michel Platini of France. The wacky and weird: Kuwait, and how the Sheikh stops a match! The long-shots: Cameroon and their musical culture, as well as New Zealand and their desire simply to stay alive.
The commentary by Sean Connery is brilliant and poetic once intermingled with the action and scenic views of the host country, Spain..."
Info on the 1982 film:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%27ol%C3%A9!
http://www.infrontsports.com/uploads/media/FIFA-Archive-film_collection_01.pdf
http://www.fifafilms.com/faqs/
List of all FIFA Official Films 1954 - 2002:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_FIFA_World_Cup_films
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
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My memory was being at the Singapore National Stadium, when the ref blew the final whistle.
Prior to the game I was waving my NZ scarf and was told by security that it was a political Banner and I would be kicked out if I carried on, but when the Chinese scored al of a sudden all these red flags appeared all around me, I gestured to thse security monkeys and thay did nothing about it!! I got the last laugh, when we won and I told the monkies what I thought of them.
Then having a big piss up at the Sherton hotel, Charlie Dempsey pulled his wallet out and I got absolutely plastered, got my scarf signed by the team, still have the scarf.
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"G'olé! : FIFA Official Film of the 1982 World Cup" -
Which screened on ESPN Tuesday 6 am was great stuff.
Amazing to see Frank van Hattum feature in the opening credits (footage of him vs. USSR in 3-0 defeat berating his defence etc. and contrasting with the ice cold Schoemacher ,the German goalie in another match)
Good seven minute sequence of behind-the-scenes with the All Whites vs. USSR and match footage. Nice to relive the chances we created in that match - had a few shots on target and the USSR goalie had to deal with the odd attempt. Unfortunately, as Sean Connery narrates, he was the best Soviet goalkeeper since the legendary Yashin.
Nice as a tribute to Duncan Cole too who can be seen a lot in the NZ footage.
Respectful commentary by Sean Connery on the All Whites giving them credit for their 70,000 mile trip in qualifying games and giving it all in the Finals.
Love the comment about the Scotland v Brazil game - "The team who thought they were the best in the world playing the team who knew they were the best." What a great Scotland side that was though - so many of the biggest names in the English top flight a the time (Dalglish, Souness, Archibald, Wark, Strachan, Hansen, Brazil, Robertson, Hartford, Jordan).
And Brazil weren't bad either!
Loved the slowed-down match footage with Rick Wakeman's ("Yes" group) prog rock soundtrack.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
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KICKSTARTER CAMPAIGN TO HELP FINISH 1982 ALL WHITES DOCUMENTARY
I'm posting an email I received from NZ football fan and film-maker Sa'id Milton who needs a couple of dollars from everyone to help finish his documentary about the 1982 All Whites.
I know he has tracked down lots of rare and interesting footage and has completed many interesting interviews.
I can vouch for Mr Milton's honesty and integrity and have been happy in my dealings with him in the past.
He's done a lot of film work for football in NZ over the years.
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Hi there :)
Tonight the Kickstarter fundraising campaign was launched in order to try and raise what I need to finish '82 And All That and get it to screen.
The key now is to spread the word! the campaign is calling for $2 contributions from as many people as possible (larger contributions also welcomed!) so for that to be effective, lots of people need to hear the call!!
Can you please forward these links to as many people as you possibly can:
Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945504849/82-and-all-that
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/82-And-All-That/737423653008523
Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxcREHIXJxM17TLS_W8Fysg
Each of these has a space for people to ask me questions about any aspect of the project too. If you've got any questions for me, just fire them through.
So yeh, please spread the word - I want to make this film happen, and I can't do it on my own!
If this isn't your kind of thing, please just ignore, I won't be offended :)
Thanks
SM
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
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"82 AND ALL THAT" FEATURE DOCUMENTARY IN PRODUCTION
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1945504849/82...
With NZ facing tough times in 1981, the All Whites became unlikely heroes, uniting the country on a rollercoaster World Cup campaign
82 And All That is a documentary feature film about the All Whites (New Zealand's national football team) and their quest to qualify for the 1982 World Cup. It brings to life their incredible story by mixing original interviews with match action, archive footage, and an awesome era soundtrack!
It's more than a sports story - it's a slice of social history that shines a light on an incredible chapter in New Zealand's story.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/82-And-All-That/737...
Preview Clip #1:
This film is a labour of love that I've been working on for over a decade. Completely independent and self-funded to this point, I'm now asking for help to raise the money needed to finish the film's post production and pay the clearance fees for the footage, images and music we're using. It's great to have gathered clips from around the globe, but they don't come cheap - and I didn't want to cut corners with this story!
I want the football community in New Zealand, and sports fans in general, to feel as though they have a stake in this story. I'd like to think that dads and mums, who remember this campaign from when they were kids, would take their own kids along to the cinema to watch the story unfold again and relive the memories.
I'm an All Whites fan, an historian, and a total doco junkie - so I'm combining my passions in this project! There haven't been enough feature length films about great NZ sports stories, and this is one step to filling that void.
Please help me bring this awesome story to life!
"You have achieved something I thought I would never see and that is the real story of 82" John Adshead
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
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