All Whites v Socceroos Match Thread

stuff to take out of the game.

Bro, its the internet. LOL is perfectly acceptable. LOL.

Fallon should take chances better. /end

Quote from 442

"Pims on TV saying grella and cahill should of got reds, good on him for honesty"

Sorry - but did anyone think any of the team had a REALLY bad game tonight?

(not in my book)

Those two goals that Oz scored - were there any major defensive stuff ups (other than being beaten by pace)?

Junior822010-05-25 00:21:40

^they were pretty lucky for the first one

great game apart from the obvious. Great to see our composure on the ball for the whole 90. No longer do we belt the ball downfield and chase shadows all day. Every player had a good game. Shame to lose Leo - he was looking sharp. Boyens is a pretty random choice for out there. Good to see Smith have a crack out wide- he did ok overall. i liked Macca when he came on too. We caused them all sorts of problems with our aerial ability up front. Well done Ricki and team

I thought we did really well.

not a bad game, unlucky to lose but we played well. Gota give the AW's credit playing australia first time in 5 yrs.

Was at the fourkings with several mates, 2 of them there first footy match, the loved it! Just got home, and thought we had a brilliant night, apart from leo, but he should be right. Looked bloody awful the injury. Overall, think we did good, but the loss was a bit out of no where, I hope they don't glorify it, I believe aussie should of done far better, but they didn't. Hoping they don't glorify this result, wasn't a good game for them.

We are progressing well enough for the World Cup Tournament. Just need a few more games to gel together and feel out each others strengths and weakness. Thats all I'm going to say on this. Looking forward to the next warm up game.

well said allwhitebelievr. well said.

a good game by the AW's; no cringe-ing moments and some honest shots at goal; plus the added bonus of a Phoenix ending - a winning goal in the dying seconds (you have to larf, don't you?)

Can someone ban this guy? He is obviously just doing it to get a rise out of people. Even a blind man could see that Elliott had a good game.

Australia didn't really turn up tonight, woeful performance.. i was impressed with the all whites, though, they were far less cringeworthy than i expected (no offence intended, sincerely).

as a whole the game was a bit of a let down, i guess you can't really expect more from a friendly..
it would be nice to see a big Australia - NZ game in an asian cup quarter or something similar, where something is at stake etc.

good luck for the WC guys

Grella: 2 footer in a friendly less than 3 weeks from world cup. What a prick.
Cahill: Get away with studs in Brown's back, then only see yellow for a knee-high studs up challenge? Jesus Christ. I guess no match between Aus and NZ can ever be a 'friendly'

Rory: Downwards, Mate! Other than that, good stuff.
Boyens: How you're even in that 23 is beyond me, hope he doesn't get on in SA, remember what happened last time he made an appearance there?

Haha, even FIFA called the victory "undeserved":

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1216845/index.html#aussies+edge+new+zealand

this reeks of sour grapes, and over a friendly nothing game, too. if you want to start whinging about the shocking tackles from cahill and grella then us socceroos fans will simply point out how physically pissweak you were tonight. focus on the positives, man, the all whites were quite impressive all things considered.

If we tackled you like that and f**ked Cahill's leg up there would be about a dozen articles calling us thugs and every aussie on every football forum would be blowing up.

Physically pissweak? We out muscled you for most of the game.

So basically - piss off.valeo2010-05-25 01:22:55

You can hardly call it sour grapes mate.

and if you call two foot challenges physical then you need to have a look at your self. Beacuse the fact of the matter is grella's tackle was a disgrace. And id say that your team was physically pissweak at the back i mean how many headers did they win?

Your going to struggle against serbia if your back four show an aireial peformance like that at the world cup.

did i in any way insinuate that it was grella's and cahill's tackles that made australia physical and NZ pissweak? no, but cheers for assuming that.
i condemned the two challenges in my post if you'd bothered to read it properly. i was referring to the amount of times all whites players seemed to go to ground off 'nudged off the ball' contests.

and believe me, i've already conceded that Australia will struggle in their group at the World Cup, i was extremely disappointed tonight. now after making a well intentioned few posts about the match, i can see that that it's not welcome in here. i won't reply to the other genius that quoted me because frankly i draw the line when it comes to mindless name calling.

what i will say though is that it's amusing that a sh*t performance from Australia and a reasonably decent performance from the All Whites still resulted in a win for Australia, have fun against italy.

I find it quite amusing that Australian fans are now clinging to this "at least we won" line considering that you're also accusing New Zealand fans of sour grapes when we're complaining about 2 awful tackles in a friendly.  If we want to focus on the result how about the fact that Australia should have played the majority of the match with 10 men, and would have if this was anything other than a friendly?

There were more than two awful tackles - there were at least four . Forgotten Cahills studs in Fallons back? Milligans late challenge on Lochy?

Tonight was new low in Australian Sport (if they can actually get any lower) Those tackles didnt belong on any football pitch anywhere, never mind in a friendly 3 weeks before a major tournament.
they can forget about Kindred Anzac spirit in SA. I hope someone does Cahill and Grella.

Absolutely appalling.

When Leo went down after Cahills challenge it actually crossed my mind that Ricki might call the team off.

SA? uhh...

bringing you down was never the intention, but the degree of whinging i read in here about the poor tackles from cahill and grella was just astounding, it's as though it is all the posters in here can focus on.
and davybhoy, if Australia defeating New Zealand is a 'new low' in australian sport, then i'd hate to know what the state of New Zealand sport is.
go on, keep whinging about referee decisions in a FRIENDLY match, i pity you. and don't give us too much sh*t, if it wasn't for australia most of your squad would be playing in the NZ premier league.

Higlights:
http://goaltube.vndv.com/index.php/videos/15-international/419-friendly-australia-v-new-zealand-hq-highlights

Have to say, Sigmund was awful.  It was as though he'd just given birth, not his girlfriend.  He was slow and uninspiring.  Reid was good but lingered on the ball and that made him look bad.  Impressed with Elliot.  Pity he's not got another campaign in him.

Disgraceful from Vince Grella.  Really bad.  Can't believe it wasn't a red card.  Cahill too, didn't look as bad as Grella's tackle but that's takes studs up to a whole new level.  Then Tommy Oar tackling Nelsen round the stomach, I'd have slapped that little toe-rag.

I almost wish Siggy had made himself useful and injured one of them at the end.  Their reactions would have been quality.  (Notice I said almost, unlike some of the Aussies on here and 442 I don't tolerate barbarism).

Lol'd at seeing Daniel on the tele.

Didn't get to see the game unfortunately due to the time difference and no local TV coverage, just watched the highlights though. That first goal they got was lucky as hell. And those "challenges" on my boy Bertos were downright ridiculous. Anyone able to record it or know of a nzb or torrent file of it anywhere? Would like to see the whole game if at all possible..

Same thing for me. I wish i can see the whole game: especially curious how reid played at right back and central back. Apparently, according to the comments, Elliott was the best player on the pitch with Fallon

i hope we've learnt form that:

from the positives from the 1st half

and that Ricki and Ryan will help the team prevent any another last minute sickeners

proud of the boys

Agree with most that has been posted. Cahill's challenges were probably worth a couple of yellows but 'Magilla' Grella's was worth a straight red and a 1 year suspension, the prick.

Gutted not to see Clapham play. But great effort from the guys. Two terrible challenges from Cahill and Grella. Proud of what we did. Of course the Aussies will harp on about how if they'd been trying it would have been 4-0 or something.

Hahaha, same ol' Aussies... If you play like this in SA youre as good as finished. Your game reeked of desperation. You could barely beat a squad of players, a good chunk of who were uncapped or had only 1 or 2 caps under their belt. And you wont be able to score 'nothing goals' against Germany. It must hurt pretending to be good, and disapointing yourself and your fans in the process. I feel for you guys. Good luck!

First half was one of the best I have seen from an All Whites team.

We should be concentrating on the positives and negatives of NZ�s performance but it is too hard not to comment on some of the Australian sanctimoniousness [how�s that for a word?]

 

No doubt, both of those tackles on Leo were of the mongrel variety and had no place in a game of this nature. Nelsen said he sees Grella make tackles like that every week at Blackburn, I�d suggest he doesn�t because even in the EPL they would be met with a red card.

 

Australia must be worried with that performance, even though a number of Aussie retards are shouting out about the victory and how bad we were etc etc, their own coach is obviously worried and has as much as said so in the press conference. It is not unusual for Australians to have an inflated view of how good they are and we [NZ] exploit that in several sports � though not always consistently. We have done them a favour; there is still time for them to pull something out of the bag before the world cup.

 

A lot of positives for us, even conceding that late goal, best it is done here than in SA and that point will have been driven home last night. A couple more games under our belt and we will be at our best at the WC, fingers crossed that our best will be good enough to get us a result or two there.

Napier Phoenix2010-05-25 08:45:28

Herbert in Stuff calling it a 'moral victory'.

The great effort in the first half especially had them well rattled and it showed. Agree with all about the yellow cards that would normally have been red - even the ref said that post-match. Very bizarre Aussie behaviour really.

And the obvious plan by Rikki to try out several new players in the second half probably cost us something, as the Aussies did step it up a fair bit and we had lots of new combinations on trial. But i'm sure that was part of the idea in the warm up context.

Both Aussie goals had a whiff of luck with them as well, the first one from an unfortunate pay back by us (some Aussie fans say that was a deliberately play off our guy by Cahill - thats grasping at straws!!). The second coming in the 4th minute of a 3 minute extra time, also with a big question mind in my mind about what counts as 'off-side' in some refs minds. Is running across the face of the goal directly in view of the goalie in an atacking move isn't part of the play? Some refs and linesmen might think so. I'm pretty sure Ryan was suggesting that to the ref afterwards.

OK - they got two - we got one, but it was really our game and we were unlucky with their goals and to miss a couple of really good chances of our own. I'm pretty encouraged by all that really. Not bad for a side that hasn't played together all that often. Can only improve.

We probably did the Aussies a really big favour as well. They've got some thinking to do if they want to still have 11 on the pitch at the end of games and to have any chance of winning anything.

All good - it just would have been nice to have taken at least a deserved draw.

I have nothing but admiration for Verbeek's admissions.