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Rank Change* Team Points 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25

Top 25 Rankings as 2 June 2014[1]
	New Zealand	93.81
	South Africa	89.34
	Australia	86.88
	England	85.68
	Ireland	82.13
	Wales	80.70
	France	80.07
1	Argentina	76.44
1	Samoa	75.49
	Scotland	75.16
	Fiji	74.21
1	Japan	73.90
1	Tonga	73.21
	Italy	72.05
	Canada	70.75
	Georgia	70.46
	Romania	68.08
	United States	67.21
	Russia	63.43
	Uruguay	61.86
	Spain	60.65
	Namibia	58.79
	Hong Kong	58.47
	Portugal	57.73
1	South Korea	57.22

And if you say South Korea or Portugal don't count then you could argue that NZ in football, don't either.

New Zealand (ranked 1) would put 100 points on anyone from Canada (ranked 15) down.

I doubt you can say the same would happen in football. Nice try, but come back with a different angle.

NZ as a rank outsider and either worst or second worst ranked team at the 2010 WC (I can't remember which) managed a draw against the defending champions. What's the closest a country like Romania, Russia, Georgia, etc has got to beating one of the big boys at the RWC?

 

Sorry I don't see what your argument is? So by your logic with 207 teams ranked in Football, Spain wouldn't comfortably put away Burkina Faso at rank 61? A similar comparison to NZ and Canada in Rugby world rankings.

Who outside of the top twenty of Football would at a tournament put away Spain, Germany or Brazil?

Football is bigger we are all agreed. But Rugby Union for a world sport is hardly a poor one and 4 and a half million people estimated to play club rugby is hardly shabby.

You could have said that about Italy a few years ago or Argentina - OK not there yet but certainly getting there.

Or Wales 15 years ago - rubbish. They can compete with most teams these days.

So we complain about NZ Football not getting enough media attention......

Open this thread and see the last  3 pages are mainly about Rugby.

Mods take control.

So Rugby Union shouldn't bother having a world tournament then because there are only 5 teams in it? 

Since 1987 the Rugby world cup has been won by 4 teams.

Since 1986 the Football world cup has been won by 6 teams.

Hardly a gulf between the codes. 

Christ If I never had to watch Rugby again it would be no loss but I don't have an issue with other people watching it. 

You never hear of cricket or that god awful Formula 1 being compared to football so whats the problem?

No one's got an issue with anyone watching eggball.

The issue is that either code struggle to get meaningful world-scale competitions.  13-man egg ball is a farce. 15-man egg ball is so lopsided.

The reason there isn't so much skewness at FIFA WC is that the likes of American Samoa and Myanmar get eliminated in the regional qualifiers early on.

15-man egg ball doesn't have the depth and breadth to do this does it?

There's basically a rivalry between football and rugby in NZ and that's where these squabbles come from. Cricket and F1 fans don't see football as a threat. Football fans don't get harassed by cricket and F1 fans for the sport they follow.

 

edit: not that I really care. It is fun to have a silly pointless rivalry sometimes - kinda like the Nix and ACFC

 

"No soccer fags gonna kick their pill on our footie paddock!"

Pretty much and the reason being is because they don't like that no one gives a shit about rugby anywhere else in the world and that 'soccer' is played by fairy boy poofs.

We have a rivalry between us and ACFC?? That's like Peterboro United being the Rivals of Man City.

Wow with those last few posts you could feel the resentment of the bullied draining away....

More like between Man U and FC Utd of Manchester.

But its practically a matter of what 20 years, which is no time in sport, for at least another 4 or 5 teams to become competitive. Also football success is far from Global with it being divvied up between South America and Europe. I think it's still really sad that we've not to seen an African nation lifting the world cup yet.

And you could promote football in say the middle east, somewhere sensible like Qatar maybe.

in 1981 the All Blacks beat Romania 14-6 and the Romanians had 2 tries disallowed. They have competed in all 7 world cups, won their group at one.

However this now difressed from the original thread but then if someone hadn't questioned me, perhaps it would not have been sidetracked. Job well done by one person.

Interesting, I had no idea about that! Well-played sir

 

Thanks. Someone else suggested earlier about having a triangular tournament like the rugby every season. Us, Aussie and SA. I myself would like to see this. It would help with our gloabl rankings and give our players regular international level football. Other thsn the travel, what other obsticles would there be? Using the international windows would make it feasable surely?

Biggest obstacle is there isn't really much benefit to Australia, they are better off playing games against other Asian opponents or against teams ranked higher than them. 

Arnt SA ranked up there with them though? Also it gives them game time too.

SA are 50-something iirc and from what I've read many people seem to consider that a bit flattering.

 

If you did it every year you would get even less than 6,000 people turning up in Auckland. 

Sorry, was reading the european nations cup stuff. Nice of you to constantly go after me. Makes me wonder if you are stalking me or not. Still I am sure the big green bunny will tell you to carry on. 

But just to help your general knowledge, did you know that Romania have won 218 of their 377 test played? They have beaten France, Wales and Scotland. Now come on Buffon, come back with another smart remark. I know you actually like me. I find you kind of amusing too. ;) I am sorry I am only human, I know you know everything but one day I may catch you out too.

Guys its really important that I am right on the internet.

Cheers Tegal. We know France can blow hot and cold but any result against them is surely notable? They also beat Wales.

Just when did this become a rugby forum?

Since someone called me up on a point I had made. Sorry about that, I tried to get it back on track until said person started to digress again. 

I agree, so e of the so called lesser count ries have really come on in leaps and bounds. I wonder if any of this is through players running various clinics during their season breaks.

I think it is because football is better than egg ball.

Sorry, I wws referring soley to the improvements within football. 

I'm just baiting.

#offseason

#sigh

So much dumb

Enjoyed the last couple of pages, smurf mirth.

Watched most of the Internet coverage of last week's game & I agree with Smithy's appraisl.

Has Emblen got the job?