All Whites vs Solomon Islands | Fri 1 Sept | 7:30pm | QBE Stadium

People are entitled to their opinion on Hudson.  I don't hate him, I just think he is not very good. He stands and falls by his record. The Hudson era stats against non Island sides are

Played 15, won 1 draw 2, goals for 9, goals against 26, 0.6 goals per match...can't score, can't defend

0.6 goals per match with a side that has a EPL striker and two wingers currently at Dutch Div 1 clubs is not good enough IMO.

The Roar said today they had recieved zero information from anyone at NZF about the fitness requirements for Ingham and they think that the whole thing was handled poorly....no info from NZF? well knock me down with a feather...LOL

Considering the past AW scores in NZ against the Solomons are 6-1, 5-1, 6-0 ???? then anything less than a 4 goal winning margin will be a disappointment

I'll be at the Four Kings as well

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/96339996/all-white-dane-ingham-arrives-back-at-brisbane-roar-after-being-deemed-unfit

Hudson: jump

Players: how high

Hudson: just jump

Players: *jump*

Hudson: ok, you you and you, you didn't jump high enough, you're cut

The great communicator.

That was EXACTLY what I had in mine Tegal.

Rumour is also that Hudson's rejected a whole heap of interview requests from NZ media, and has cancelled media appearances.

Yet he still has time to do self-fluffing puff pieces with the UK media.

What a guy.

Cordwainer Bull with a brief history of All Whites who Hudson would have definitely sent home here...

https://in-the-back-of-the.net/2017/08/31/guest-post-dane-ingham-chewing-the-fat/

You are SO right - couldn't have said it better myself.

I also want to add - if AH has been talking about fitness levels for so long - why has he not given his players an indication of what level they need to be at when reporting for duty? Moore says NZF didn't tell the Roar - how about the players? You'd think aside from the usual "I need you to run for 90+ minutes and never give up bla bla" - AH could give the players some tangible parameters (body fat not higher than...Beep test minimum acceptable level...100m, 200m, 400m and 800m to be completed in less than...

I was aware of where I needed to be when playing in Cap 1... and the best players in the country don't?

I find it kind of disturbing that 19 of our 20 All Whites squad have scored a combined total of 10 goals in their Entire international careers. Chris Wood has scored 20 which is double the entire All Whites team hahah 

Our second leading goalscorer is Michael Mcglinchy with 4 goals in 48 All White appearances.

Fanciful? Possibly, possibly hyperbole. But we're in a situation where people assume the worst of Hudson from default. We've got people assuming he sent Ingham home to get his excuses in in advance for losing tomorrow; others who assume that NZF "shut down" his interview quickly to shield him from criticism when they in fact did no such thing. Some even hate him for his English accent which he can't help. Give a dog a bad name and you can hang him. Assign a dedicated scapegoat and he'll never shirk the tag.

In case there's any disagreement, I am radically neutral on Hudson. I think he's clearly angling for a big British job and is mainly concerned with making himself look good, but I'll reserve judgement until after the intercontinental playoff to join the hate.

Come on the goddamn Northern Express bus, guys. It's efficient, it's got its own busway AND cool double-deckers so you can watch the sunset from high over the bridge. SOME Aucklanders can't imagine going anywhere on public transport and those are the ones who give the rest of us a bad name.

1. No-one's saying he's creating an excuse for the Solomons game with the Ingham thing - rather that he's been creating a narrative that his far from stellar record here is not his fault, but a result of unprofessional environment and general shamblessness of NZF (some of which, coincidentally, is probably correct). What irks people is that he excels at self-fluffery. If he showed a degree a personal accountability in all this, I suspect most would be a lot more accepting of him.

2. No-one ever said NZF 'shut him down'. In fact it was Hudson who shut down the media appearances, much to NZF's despair (as they're obviously wanting to promote the game on Friday).

Anyway, I suggest we move the Anfony bashing into the thread designed for that, and return to important matters.

Are we at that same fancy pub in the mall pre-game? The one with Rekorderlig on tap?

Mods, take control 

I didn't read anywhere that the players knew any specifics (other than AH saying they needed to be 'fit'). If Craig Moore says NZF didn't give the Roar any direction, I wonder if the players were given some - more detailed - instructions regarding the acceptable level of fitness required.

Also beats me how a kid who is going through pre-season and playing minutes can be fitter than [awesome] old, injured Durante.

90 minutes plus a late, late goal from Tuiloma today.  imagine what he could do if he was fit...

Play for the first team?

USL.  Relevance?

I know there's an election campaign on.......  Lets Go All Whites

Theres a good chance we could lose this match, given all the players that are out. Sol Islands play nice attacking football we are going to have to park the bus and counter.

Anyone that actually coaches more than a pub team agree with that? So when julian Savea was dropped from the All Blacks for not being fit enough it was the All Black and Hurricane management/coaches fault - not Savea himself?

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36036742

http://gadgetsandwearables.com/2017/04/18/top-smar...

http://onlinemasters.ohio.edu/5-sports-technology-...

Nope, Lochhead at the time was our best left back despite being unattached and from memory went on to play in a (admittedly terrible) MLS team afterwards.  Christie was terrible, but our midfield options were (are!) seriously lacking then, with Elliott and Vicelich never being replaced.

Bollocks. We'll run 'em ragged. We're the Super Skinny Trim Whites.

I know you are trying to make a point but can we please leave rugby out of these forums. Rugby dominates just about every aspect of life in NZ...to the point of saturation. Its kind of nice to come somewhere where you can discuss other stuff without rugby. It is a football forum after all.

Anyone want to guess what the Crowd attendance might be at "The Home of NZ Football"?

5000 sold as of a day or two ago. That's pretty impressive so far. 

Not the best example. Julian Savea has been picked for the ABs having been benched by the Hurricanes over fitness & form.