AW v Serbia Match Thread 3am Sun SS3
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AW v Serbia Match Thread 3am Sun SS3
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On May 29th at 3:15 am in Klagenfurt, Austria.
Can't see there being any TV coverage,but hope there is at least a internet feed.
Can't see there being any TV coverage,but hope there is at least a internet feed.
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There's TV Coverage, an ad was on sky last night. Live from 3am.
Edit: Just checked the internet guide and perhaps I'm mistaken. Swear I saw an add last night though.
Mr_Incredible2010-05-26 09:45:54
Edit: Just checked the internet guide and perhaps I'm mistaken. Swear I saw an add last night though.
Mr_Incredible2010-05-26 09:45:54
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Online guide has game at 4am on SS3.
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can we please pull out of all but perhaps 1 warm up game? worried about injuries now.
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At least our other oppositions will probably understand the meaning of the term 'friendly'.
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so, this next game. Here is a possible line up ...
Moss
Reid Vicelich Smith
Brockie Mcglinchey Mulligan Lochead
Clapham
Smeltz Wood
With various subs at half time.
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Don't think we should be changing the starting line-up too much.
We need to work on our best XI, and get them as comfortable playing together as we can in these friendlies for the show time. All the other teams at the WC have much more team cohesion and experience playing together than us, and we need to work as hard in these friendles to catch up as much as we can.
Obviously use the more liberal subs rule to have a look at other guys who may be needed to play a role in the South Africa. But if I was Ricki, I'd look to settle on a starting XI and give them as much time together on the park as possible.
We need to work on our best XI, and get them as comfortable playing together as we can in these friendlies for the show time. All the other teams at the WC have much more team cohesion and experience playing together than us, and we need to work as hard in these friendles to catch up as much as we can.
Obviously use the more liberal subs rule to have a look at other guys who may be needed to play a role in the South Africa. But if I was Ricki, I'd look to settle on a starting XI and give them as much time together on the park as possible.
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cant afford injuries though!!! other teams have more depth. We need to protect some of our players.
Admittedly i am torn as far as our tactical approach to these games. would love to see us get preferred XI on park every game, but if Nelsen or Eillott got injured we would have big problems, esp with Brown now under cloud
Marius Lacatus2010-05-26 13:33:42
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cant afford injuries though!!! other teams have more depth. We need to protect some of our players.
Everytime Nelsen gets the ball we should form a 10 man shield around him.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Don't agree with much of that lineup Marius, but I would like to see Smith in that LCB position.
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cant afford injuries though!!! other teams have more depth. We need to protect some of our players.
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Admittedly i am torn as far as our tactical approach to these games. would love to see us get preferred XI on park every game, but if Nelsen or Eillott got injured we would have big problems, esp with Brown now under cloud
You can't wrap players in cotton wool ML. What we have to do is get them the best preparation we can and give them the best chance of having a decent World Cup, and the best way to do that is to give the best XI as much time together on the field as we can.
Injuries are part and parcel of football, and you never know if and when they are going to strike. You can get injured in a warm-up for a friendly, or slip in the shower, or get bitten by your dog. Thinking and worrying about that kind of stuff makes you a wreck and takes you nowhere.el grapadura2010-05-26 13:47:45
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...or drop a perfume bottle on your toe.
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i wouldn't want too much change, agree that the starting XI needs to be comfortable and cohesive come the WC.
having said that i wouldn't mind seeing smith and/or wood start
having said that i wouldn't mind seeing smith and/or wood start
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...or fall into a vacuum cleaner hose with your penis.
I like tautologies because I like them.
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Santiago Ca�izares?
I lol'd. What a knob.
SkyTV website says kick-off is live at 4am - could have sworn it was 3.15 as well but no matter. Just happy there's coverage.
I lol'd. What a knob.
SkyTV website says kick-off is live at 4am - could have sworn it was 3.15 as well but no matter. Just happy there's coverage.
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we can afford to shuffle 2 of the backline and we can afford to give Leo a game off to recover from his attempted crucifixion. Brockie can cover him, just.
I agree with the lineup apart from Nelsen and Smeltz, Smeltz has been abit piss and should be replaced with Fallon who hasn't really played since before Mexico.
Vicelich can maybe play half but we cannot play without Nelsen.
I agree with the lineup apart from Nelsen and Smeltz, Smeltz has been abit piss and should be replaced with Fallon who hasn't really played since before Mexico.
Vicelich can maybe play half but we cannot play without Nelsen.
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According to this site: http://www.skytv.co.nz/tv-guide.aspx
The game is live at 4am Sunday on SS3 (as said above), then there is a replay at 6am on SS2, and again at 3pm on SS2. I haven't looked any further down the line than that.
The game is live at 4am Sunday on SS3 (as said above), then there is a replay at 6am on SS2, and again at 3pm on SS2. I haven't looked any further down the line than that.
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I'll be in Sydney this weekend, does anyone know a good bar there that will be open until 4 (when the game finishes NSW time) and that has Sentana?
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I'll be in Sydney this weekend, does anyone know a good bar there that will be open until 4 (when the game finishes NSW time) and that has Sentana?
Got a Black Magic woman? Oh right..
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Don't think we should be changing the starting line-up too much.
We need to work on our best XI, and get them as comfortable playing together as we can in these friendlies for the show time. All the other teams at the WC have much more team cohesion and experience playing together than us, and we need to work as hard in these friendles to catch up as much as we can.
Obviously use the more liberal subs rule to have a look at other guys who may be needed to play a role in the South Africa. But if I was Ricki, I'd look to settle on a starting XI and give them as much time together on the park as possible.
If Ricki listens to the master...
We need to work on our best XI, and get them as comfortable playing together as we can in these friendlies for the show time. All the other teams at the WC have much more team cohesion and experience playing together than us, and we need to work as hard in these friendles to catch up as much as we can.
Obviously use the more liberal subs rule to have a look at other guys who may be needed to play a role in the South Africa. But if I was Ricki, I'd look to settle on a starting XI and give them as much time together on the park as possible.
Paston
Reid Nelsen Vicelich
Bertos Elliot WeeMac Lochhead
Wood Killen
Fallon
You know we belong together...
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Midfield is rediculously lightweight without Brown, and still no Oughton, Peverly may be 
ed by some on here but...
I guess it was always ging to be route 1 anyway, maybe keep Siggs in there and play 6 at the back.
You know we belong together...
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Midfield is rediculously lightweight without Brown, and still no Oughton, Peverly may be ed by some on here but...
I guess it was always ging to be route 1 anyway, maybe keep Siggs in there and play 6 at the back.
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I think that something like this could be the way to go, give up the midfield in exchange for a brick wall in front of goal and three competent forwards to capitalise on the break.
Paston
Reid Vicelich Nelsen Smith
Bertos Elliott Lochhead
Wood
Killen
Fallon
You know we belong together...
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I think that something like this could be the way to go, give up the midfield in exchange for a brick wall in front of goal and three competent forwards to capitalise on the break.
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Fallon
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Midfield is rediculously lightweight without Brown, and still no Oughton, Peverly may be ed by some on here but...
I guess it was always ging to be route 1 anyway, maybe keep Siggs in there and play 6 at the back.
There was some quality passing and build up play. Crisp 4-5 pass moves or more. Would Barron Elliot be a starting midfield?? Someone needs to be able to play 90minutes in that midfield, defend defend defend and chase. Not sure it's weemac and Elliot looked tired in the second half. Haven't ever really seen Barron play but he wasn't overawed when he came on on the big night.
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Barron's my pick, Peverly as cover because he's the best option for a CM spot as long as Oughton is in Ricki's blind spot.
You know we belong together...
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For the benefit of us worldwide who don't have Sky or Foxtel, if someone spots a web feed on this give us all a shout!
Here's my best tip, I used the firstrow.net site to watch Forest's match against Newcastle last month...and after trying several ''channels'' struck gold...
the game is already listed there, but looks like you gotta sign up to bet365.com.......or you can look for it on the day here...... and avoid the spam hassle....
If someone has a better game-feeds link and it is well known here, apologies.
PS: 4 Socceroos fans were playing a match using a hedgehog outside my house tonight. I was disgusted. I was just about to phone the RSPCA when the hedgehog went 1-0 up!
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Barron's my pick, Peverly as cover because he's the best option for a CM spot as long as Oughton is in Oska's blind spot.
Fixed
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I think that something like this could be the way to go, give up the midfield in exchange for a brick wall in front of goal and three competent forwards to capitalise on the break.
Paston
Reid Vicelich Nelsen Smith
Bertos Elliott Lochhead
Wood
Killen
Fallon
Oska, it's not FM or FIFA. Joke formations don't work.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Agree that our 1st XI needs as much time together as possible, but also worry a little bit about injuries - i guess the time together is worth the risk of injury, but do you not think that maybe Ricki will rest a few of our most key players in the slovenia game?
given that some on here are convinced Paston is going to get injured (referring to the decision to take Moss), do you not think that he'll be rested in either this match or the next? perhaps Moss will be given a start in one of the warm up matches with Ricki saying to him "show me why i should drop Paston for the Paraguay game"
finally, might be nice to see how Wood is when given a full match (although I'm thinking maybe he remains an impact player, then gets given a start in the final group match)
just throwing it out there, don't be too harsh when pulling apart my thoughts 
oh, and game is being streamed on bet356 (but you need to open an account)
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Barron's my pick, Peverly as cover because he's the best option for a CM spot as long as Oughton is in Ricki's blind spot.
wasnt clapham picked ahead of peverley?
rojas, so special
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I think that something like this could be the way to go, give up the midfield in exchange for a brick wall in front of goal and three competent forwards to capitalise on the break.
Paston
Reid Vicelich Nelsen Smith
Bertos Elliott Lochhead
Wood
Killen
Fallon
Oska, it's not FM or FIFA. Joke formations don't work.
I didn't think Oska XI was that bad?
Nothing wrong with a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 formation.
Unlikely Ricki would start Wood with that formation though. Maybe replace Wood with Barron to sit in the middle with Elliott and it an ok starting XI. And go for the 4-4-2 rather than a 4-3-1-1-1 ;)
If we build it, they will come...
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My preference for the XI against Serbia:
Moss/Bannatyne
I think Ricki is more likely to try things with this game, the Aussie game we had more to play for and Rick would have gone with more of his tried and tested players and formations.
Moss needs a game and Ricki needs to test him sooner rather than later, maybe even play half each with Bannatyne who also needs some game time as reserve keeper for the first two WC games.
Nelsen is a must, if he is not there a WC time then we are screwed either way, so lets not even have a back up plan for that scenario, we know what it is. We slot one of the 5 CBs we have in there and cross our fingers.
I think Reid and Smith should be in there somewhere, to get more game time in the team as they are new to the squad, but also because i think they are both good enough to be in our starting XI come the first WC game. Reid looked comfortable on the right against Aussie and SMith looked comfortable on the left.
I would like to start with a different formation. like the 4-4-2. Just because the 3-5-2 can't be relied on for every game.
Boyens/Vicelich/Sigmund are all pretty even. Mulligan played well in the training camp and i think is more suited in a midfield role than wing back. So lets see what he can do on the left midfield, i think he used to play there for sc**thorpe sometimes.
Bertos needs more game time since he only got half a game against Aussie, but if he has any sort of carry on injury i would replace him with Brockie in the starting XI.
Elliott slots into his midfield spot and maybe give Clapham a run to see what he can do at this level. We already know what Barron/Wee Mac etc can do.
Fallon was winning to much ball in the air to drop, and Killen got the goal and hit the post once so still deserves his spot over Smeltz who has been off form.
Someone said we don't have much depth...tbh...I think we have quite a bit of depth in all positions(bar keeper). Nelsen is our star player the rest have decent enough cover. and we have cover at CB if Nelsen wasn't htere, just not a seasoned Premiership player with his leadership, which makes the difference.
Reid Vicelich Nelsen Smith
Bertos(Brockie) Elliott Mulligan
Clapham
Fallon Killen
If we build it, they will come...
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Midfield is rediculously lightweight without Brown, and still no Oughton, Peverly may be ed by some on here but...
I guess it was always ging to be route 1 anyway, maybe keep Siggs in there and play 6 at the back.
i thought we avoided resorting to route 1 pretty well on Monday. the lads tried to retain possession when we broke down their attacks. all the defenders kept their compusure on the ball and tried to�link with the midfield. �i was quite encouraged by that. That's not Brown's role or game either so that part at least shouldnt be affected by his absence.
lie you ML i was impressed by how oftenm we chose to play football
as fro Timmo his closing down of players does force poor release which means we often receive the ball with a bit more time to make a pass, and his runs create space for others -so yeah whilst he isn't our architect he does contribute to creating time and space for the other lads
classic case of a balanced midfield
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I think that something like this could be the way to go, give up the midfield in exchange for a brick wall in front of goal and three competent forwards to capitalise on the break.
Paston
Reid Vicelich Nelsen Smith
Bertos Elliott Lochhead
Wood
Killen
Fallon
Oska, it's not FM or FIFA. Joke formations don't work.
I didn't think Oska XI was that bad?
Nothing wrong with a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 formation.
Except it isn't a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. It's 7-0-3. Look above, he suggests we give up having a midfield.
Three for me, and two for them.
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Moss needs a game and Ricki needs to�test him sooner rather than later, maybe even play half each with Bannatyne who also needs�some game time as reserve keeper for the first two WC games.
Normally I would agree in this situation, but remember Paston has played only 90 minutes this year since breaking his leg. I think its more important to give our no. 1 keeper the time he needs.
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For the benefit of us worldwide who don't have Sky or Foxtel, if someone spots a web feed on this give us all a shout!
There's this website http://www.livefootballtvs.com/friendly-match/serbia-new-zealand-29052010.html that links to several streams but the links won't be up till hours before ko.
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