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The Good: Judas 2; Siggy (forget last minute); Brockie
That's like saying Moss had a good game except for passing it to Kennedy for their first goal.

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yea the commentators said he played in the states and found out he was a kiwi, nothing about western suburbs or the timbers what�a moose dejong is
yeah and fact is he only just moved over there a year or two ago. NZF have known about him for some time. he's no mcglinchy/smith/reid find.
Reid and Smith were known for years by people who actually bother to take a solid interest in NZ football.
Yeah well Dewhurst is a muppet what do you expect?
We don't have anyone better. This is NZ.
Fuck this stupid game
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The Good: Judas 2; Siggy (forget last minute); Brockie
The Bad: Brown, Killen; Fitzgerald (apart from one good lunging block)
The Ugly: Smeltz;
The Bad: Brown, Killen; Fitzgerald (apart from one good lunging block)
The Ugly: Smeltz;
I'd put Brown under The Ugly. Absolutely woeful. Apart from that I agree.
Three for me, and two for them.
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yea the commentators said he played in the states and found out he was a kiwi, nothing about western suburbs or the timbers what�a moose dejong is
yeah and fact is he only just moved over there a year or two ago. NZF have known about him for some time. he's no mcglinchy/smith/reid find.
Reid and Smith were known for years by people who actually bother to take a solid interest in NZ football.
Yeah well Dewhurst is a muppet what do you expect?
We don't have anyone better. This is NZ.
Would they be good as TV commentators though?
Three for me, and two for them.
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In terms of positives. We didnt look out of depth for most of the game. Two 3 - 0 losses against top 30 ranked opponents is far, far better than no games at all.
Also I'd wager a significant amount of $$ on our first choice team beating Australia's first choice team at this point in time (including injured and unavailable players).
Also I'd wager a significant amount of $$ on our first choice team beating Australia's first choice team at this point in time (including injured and unavailable players).
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Got to be realistic.
This is where we are and to move forward we need to play players like;
Boxall (Nelsen and Viscelich not around much longer)
McGlinchy/Kosta/ROJAS (we need technical players who can pass, dribble etc. NOT just kick people - Sigmund/Brown)
Wood (Killen and Smeltz not really good enough..)
This is where we are and to move forward we need to play players like;
Boxall (Nelsen and Viscelich not around much longer)
McGlinchy/Kosta/ROJAS (we need technical players who can pass, dribble etc. NOT just kick people - Sigmund/Brown)
Wood (Killen and Smeltz not really good enough..)
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The Good: Judas 2; Siggy (forget last minute); Brockie
That's like saying Moss had a good game except for passing it to Kennedy for their first goal.
I think the jet lag factor might have had a much greater impact on Siggy than Moss' incompetence
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The Good: Judas 2; Siggy (forget last minute); Brockie
The Bad: Killen; Fitzgerald (apart from one good lunging block)
The Ugly: Smeltz;
The Absent; Brown
The Bad: Killen; Fitzgerald (apart from one good lunging block)
The Ugly: Smeltz;
The Absent; Brown
I'd put Brown under The Ugly. Absolutely woeful. Apart from that I agree.
Fuck this stupid game
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In terms of positives. We didnt look out of depth for most of the game. Two 3 - 0 losses against top 30 ranked opponents is far, far better than no games at all. Also I'd wager a significant amount of $$ on our first choice team beating Australia's first choice team at this point in time (including injured and unavailable players).
You're having a giraffe, right?
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yea the commentators said he played in the states and found out he was a kiwi, nothing about western suburbs or the timbers what�a moose dejong is
yeah and fact is he only just moved over there a year or two ago. NZF have known about him for some time. he's no mcglinchy/smith/reid find.
Reid and Smith were known for years by people who actually bother to take a solid interest in NZ football.
Yeah well Dewhurst is a muppet what do you expect?
We don't have anyone better. This is NZ.
Would they be good as TV commentators though?
Fuck this stupid game
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Aaahhh, I love the smell of angst on the Forum!
Way better when it's football angst!
Normal Service resumed!
"Ive just re-visited this and once again realised that C-Diddy is a genius - a drunk, Newcastle bred disgrace - but a genius." - Hard News, 11:39am 4th June 2009
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gleeson
reid boxall smith
barbarouses rojas mcglinchey brockie
wood ?
the future
the future
reid boxall smith
barbarouses rojas mcglinchey brockie
wood ?
the future
the future
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Siggy had a brilliant game, despite the mistimed tackle. MoM for us imo
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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gleeson
reid boxall smith
barbarouses rojas mcglinchey brockie
wood ?
the future
the future
reid boxall smith
barbarouses rojas mcglinchey brockie
wood ?
the future
the future
I'd take the mumified remains (if the French don't nick them) of Nelsen over Boxall..but apart from that I largely think you might be on to the smallest midfield ever to represent NZ Football
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Positives? Definitely Brockie, Rojas, Sigmund again, a debut for Gleeson and Boxall. Thought Clapham looked reasonable too for the shortish time he was on.
Negatives? Brown, Smeltz effing awful, Killen anonymous again, not convinced about Fitzgerald, Moss.
And why did Wood get hauled off so early?
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Good: Boxall, Rojas, Brockie, Sigmund (bar last minute)
Bad: Boyens, Moss, Killen, Barbarouses
Ugly: Brown, Fitzgerald, Smeltz
Indifferent: Mulligan, Mcglinchey, Wood, Clapham, Gleeson Therk2011-06-05 21:38:17
Bad: Boyens, Moss, Killen, Barbarouses
Ugly: Brown, Fitzgerald, Smeltz
Indifferent: Mulligan, Mcglinchey, Wood, Clapham, Gleeson Therk2011-06-05 21:38:17
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6 Moss - one mere of a mistake otherwise did fine.
6 Siggy - good strength, passing ok, shocking penalty.
6 Boyens - didn't give the ball away as much as usual. Dominated in the air.
7 Boxal - seems more than capable
9 Brockie - played out of position and was solid throughout. Made some good runs and defended well. MOM
6 McG - passing was off, tried hard.
3 Brown - you can't have your captain been invisible.
7 Kosta - worked hard but didn't create too much.
6 Wood - solid work rate (shouldn't be bagged as much, he's still only 20)
4 Smeltz - work hard poor touch throughout.
6 Killen - solid, but did nothing of note.
5 Clapham - passing was off, didn't work hard enough off the ball.
7 Fitzgerald - made a lot of tackles that needed to be made, passing was off though.
8 Rojas -great touches, good passing and running with ball. Would have been a different game had he started.
N/A Mulligan - should have replaced brown earlier.
6 Gleeson - didn't have to do much.
I thought we did ok but lacked someone in the middle to make things happen with McG playing wide. We hav some really talente player coming through who like the ball at their feet and to play quick 1 - 2 stuff but unfortunately we have a couple players not able to do that.
Would like to see Marco, Barbs and McG in the middle together at the same time.
Fitzgerald and Boxall are good additions and can play and Lochead may need to start worrying about his spot with Brockie.
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Mine:
5 Moss
5 Moss
7 Siggy
4 Boyens
7 Boxall
9 Brockie - MOM
6 McG
2 Brown
6 Kosta
7 Wood
3 Smeltz
5 Killen
5 Clapham
4 Fitzgerald
9 Rojas
5 Mulligan
6 Gleeson - Looked confident
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We need to find a more visible holiding midfielder that Brown at international level. I really hope Keat can become that somebody (otherwise someone / anyone please be out there somewhere).
Brown was shocking both games.
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6 Moss - one mere of a mistake otherwise did fine.
6 Siggy - good strength, passing ok, shocking penalty.
6 Boyens - didn't give the ball away as much as usual. Dominated in the air.
7 Boxal - seems more than capable
9 Brockie - played out of position and was solid throughout. Made some good runs and defended well. MOM
6 McG - passing was off, tried hard.
3 Brown - you can't have your captain been invisible.
7 Kosta - worked hard but didn't create too much.
6 Wood - solid work rate (shouldn't be bagged as much, he's still only 20)
4 Smeltz - work hard poor touch throughout.
6 Killen - solid, but did nothing of note.
5 Clapham - passing was off, didn't work hard enough off the ball.
7 Fitzgerald - made a lot of tackles that needed to be made, passing was off though.
8 Rojas -great touches, good passing and running with ball. Would have been a different game had he started.
N/A Mulligan - should have replaced brown earlier.
6 Gleeson - didn't have to do much.
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I thought we did ok but lacked someone in the middle to make things happen with McG playing wide. We hav some really talente player coming through who like the ball at their feet and to play quick 1 - 2 stuff but unfortunately we have a couple players not able to do that.
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Would like to see Marco, Barbs and McG in the middle together at the same time.
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Fitzgerald and Boxall are good additions and can play and Lochead may need to start worrying about his spot with Brockie.
Didnt have to do much??? Save a penalty maybe???!!! hahaha
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LOL at some people's post on this
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Would like to see Marco, Barbs and McG in the middle together at the same time.
Exactly what I was thinking. I think the future of NZF looks good if management get it right.

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THERK
How does Boyens do so badly compared to the rest of the backline???
And Fitzgerald made a huge number of tackles and intercepts that saved a lot of potentially dangerous situations. He also looks to play it out of the back which is a huge positive.
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LOL at some people's post on this
What's "LOL" about it? We were dreadful.
Three for me, and two for them.
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LOL at some people's post on this
What's "LOL" about it? We were dreadful.
I am not saying that, Just the different opinions make me laugh
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fuk that was sh1t. 3 goals in 7 games. we are truly clueless ad woeful
rojas, so special
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While the scoreline makes everyone a bit angsty - I thought it was a decent enough effort, considering.
Marco looked gr8.
Our deficiencies tonight were obvious and to be expected (i.e., I don't know what Smeltz sniffed at halftime), but other than that - I'm OK.
Stevo2011-06-05 21:52:37
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you have to attribute blame for the first goal to moss for not clearing it first time, but he seemed surprised to have received the passback in the first place, which i thought is not the type of passback you would have expected to see from a defender. just an indication that, although brockie settled a bit later into the position, he was a fish out of water in the back four early in the game.
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That 3-0 loss was a much better one than the 3-0 against Mexico. We actually looked dangerous at several parts of that game, and if our finishing had been up to scratch we could have pulled a goal back and make it 1-1 just after halftime. Would have been a very different game if that happened.
Yellow Fever - Misery loves company
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you have to attribute blame for the first goal to moss for not clearing it first time, but he seemed surprised to have received the passback in the first place, which i thought is not the type of passback you would have expected to see from a defender. just an indication that, although brockie settled a bit later into the position, he was a fish out of water in the back four early in the game.
You have to be able to trust your Goal keeper though. Moss had a easy
chance to clear it first time and all would have been fine
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true, and the goal was his fault because he didn't do that. no keeper in their right mind should have expected to have enough time to take a touch in that situation.
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Highlight for me was Siggy's hit on Kruse. Clearly he knows how much we hate him.
you Siggy
you SiggyFuck this stupid game
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The only thing I saw to be mildly happy about was how well Rojas played when he came on. With all of these highly touted strikers we can't score, a CB who would struggle in the NZFC and a captain that is invisible. We need to get some wins with this team before losing becomes a habit. There needs to be a realisation that we can't foot it against these higher ranked teams without Nelsen and start again with some lesser opposition.
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A bit of perspective is needed - how many players do we have out at the moment?? How many players are in their off season and have been for a while??
Games like this looked in isolation do not tell a huge amount.
Look at the positives, our best players on the pitch tonight are all under 24 and moving forward thats a great thing especially when you factor Smith and Reid to come back into the mix aswell.
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i was disappointed to see how pedestrian and lacking in skill we really looked. it was frustrating to see lazy, naive passes where a bit more speed and quality of the first touch, and some vision, would have seen better options in passing and going forward - actually doing something with the ball. and the complete lack of central midfield leadership was again a big undoing of the all whites.
we didn't play like a team ranked 60 in the world, more like 160.
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Highlight for me was Siggy's hit on Kruse. Clearly he knows how much we hate him.
you Siggy
Yeah, nice hit but needed more GBH. Unfortunately Pigboy had the last laugh.
you Siggy
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pao1908
Did the game just top off a really bad day for you??
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