Bazil v NZ u17

Bazil v NZ u17

3 goals now.

:(

Wish he at least got the penalty. O well.
valeo2007-08-18 20:37:51

Costa is trying to do to much. dummies through his legs to no one etc. They are eating him up.

Our guys just don't seem able to compete physically, no pace. no strength  or balance, it makes me wonder what sort of fitness training our teams engage in. 

the brazil keeper must be there weekness. He will get found out in this tournemnt for sure. he gave away a sensless penalty, he was lucky costa managed to hit it straight at him. the keeper has looked a bit suspect on even some weak kiwi shooting.

Brazil gets another.

Very poor, we have some reasonable players but tacticaly we had no idea of what to do. There was far to much ball watching, no movement or anticipation from our players. Teza2007-08-18 22:02:43

7-0..jesus christ. Guess it shows how bad our age group system is :/
valeo2007-08-18 22:25:17

Those that can, do. Those that can't become critics!  

7-0, the tuaa man wont be happy, did moses petelo get on?

I'm just annoyed that we failed to even put away the penalty. Chris Wood should have taken it - he won it and since he's been banging them away in the Northern Premier League for Hamilton Wanderers, he should have been the penalty taker. Costa is a pro now, so time to step up and show it boy! You shouldn't miss penalties at any level. How many times do we keep on having to watch golden opportunities to score go up in smoke? It was a poorly taken attempt and the rebound fluff just highlighted a continuing New Zealand trait of poor finishing. We had other chances to score and yet again, classic kiwi barndoor finishing. It seems to me that when we get an opprtunity to score we seem to think about celebrating the goal before we've done the business and actually scored it!

Teza2007-08-18 22:36:33

I turned the channel over at half time and watched the league!! I can handle New Zealand losing to oppositon that have adavantages over us that we can't compete with. Obviously alot of these other teams have resources, both financial and player wise that New Zealand simply cannot match, and although NZ always have the outside chance to pick up an upset victory we support New Zealand because they are our country and they work hard to represent it as well as they can...Well not tonight in my opinion!! I had the impression that too many of our players felt the game was lost before they went out on the park. There was no desperation or commitment, which is something we have come to value in New Zealand teams because we are normally the underdogs. The under 20's team may not have set the world on fire but at least they gave 100% and fought for the cause. I believe this squad can turn it around, Tuaa is probably New Zealands most under rated coach, hopefully he can lift them up and they can put on some good performances for the rest of the tournament. Players to impress for me...Gleeson, Wood and the chap that takes the free kicks and corners...Hicks?? Costa looked like a man with the world on his shoulders. He seems to have a presence about him...how about giving him a break from the captaincy and let him be our star player, I hope that poor penalty doesn't harm his confidence too much. There looks to be plenty for them to work with skills wise...I just think the attitude could be the final piece of the puzzle.

Pretty shocking. I hope we can beat North Korea!

If only that shot late in the second half went in! It hit the post, but had it gone in it would surely be a contender for goal of the tournament.

Ouch!

Lets not be all misery guts about this game eh?

Despite the terrible scoreline, we did play good possession football against a very good Brazilian side (sorry Teza, I just don't agree with you - I think the Brazilians looked very polished).  We created some good chances and even though we were outclassed, we have to take some positives away from this game. 

If we are looking to win the World Cup every time we compete, then we are going to be disappointed for a very long time.  The defending was pretty poor, partly because they were pushing too far up and didn't account for the Brazilian's explosive pace.  I thought Wood was very  sound and Gleeson played well, despite letting in so many.  The other one I liked was Jacob Mathews - he looked creative and confident and didn't look fazed by playing against the big boys.

Definitely disappointing in terms of the scoreline, and some sub-par performances, but lets not forget what these age-based tournaments are for - to find good talent that we can develop for the future.

Ye Costa had too much pressure and ye he should be out and out striker but then again he needs to get the ball so thats probably why they dropped him behind the striker. Owell he missed a peno trust me everyone is pretty upset but everyone misses them in one point of there life.

Im actually happy with how we played with the ball in possession, and the stats are actually quite even, we had 47 % possession, more corners, 13 shots etc etc. We did well on the ball.

Long name? Would that be Cory Chettleburgh?

Colin Tuaa (NZL), New Zealand coach
It was very disappointing and not the way we wanted to start the tournament. We can play better than that. After we conceded the first goal, I knew that we had a real mountain to climb. There were some positives: we did some good things on the ball going forward, but we defended poorly. After 20 months of hard work that wasn't what I wanted to see, but after a couple of days I am sure we can put things right.  Source: www.fifa.com
dairyflat2007-08-19 12:08:53

There will have to be a major improvement against England, for sure. We not just fighting for some pride here but also the validity of having OFC as a confederation. The U20's did themselves no favours wasting far too many scoring chances and yesterday provided more of the same. I don't mind losing to quality opponents but if we get a chance to score we got to take it.

If we can avoid shipping a goal in the first min, and two in 6 mins, we might be in a position to take something from the next game.

How did North Korea go against England? Do you guys think we can beat N. Korea?

Was a 1-1 draw. Sure we can beat North Korea but everyone has to be at the top of their game, no 8 second goals conceded etc. The Korean's will be good. Last year the South Korean side beat Auckland City 3-0 in the World Club Cup so if you draw a parallel at a lower level, we will still be up against it.

England will be fired up after only managing a draw against Korea, hopefully it won't be another massacre but it will be hard to get up from this.

3-0 England. 4-0 Korea. Whens the England game?

8pm Tuesday.

Costa shouldnt have hit that the way he did, but i understand he was under massive pressure.

That Alex kid is at Vasco da Gama. Thought also there captain and number 6 Fabio was class. The worrying thing to me about the result was how defensively naive we were! We had a flat back 4 that was so wide apart leaving massive gaps and it made it easy for Brazil to tear us to shreds. I dont know if this was an error on the coaching behalf or the players didnt do as they were told but we should have played alot more compact and narrow and forced them out wide more and have to deliver balls in where we can organize ourselves well and win the headers. Also we looked so slow, weak and unfit compared to even our Under 20s who couldn't match there opponents technically but at least were physically able to compete with there fitness etc. Also we struggled mightily till the last 10 to create anything at all. To be fair we were lucky it was 10 or 11 - 2 as we obviously should have scored the pen and then Jacob matthews missed that open goal. Gleeson in goal was outstanding made a few world class saves! Others who did ok were Matthews who was at least positive needs to work on his touch etc but good attitude, Woods caused some problems in the air and Chettleburgh at times looked ok and was unlucky not to score a screamer! other than that the rest were poor including Costa who was poor, so much expectation on him for someone who hasnt really done much to be honest he has scored a few goals in the Central league and a couple in the NZFC! Dont get me wrong a fantastic talent and a good signing for the Phoenix for the future but for people to be saying things like he should be in the all whites etc you have to be kidding! Admittedly he had a off day but I dont think he kept the ball once, missed a pen (one of the worst pens you will see without missing target) and the rebound and mentally just wasnt there!Hopefully we can see a better showing from him on Tuesday! They need a good result and showing as 7-0 does not look good for NZ soccer or Oceania keeping there direct entry for world cups!
uptheeverton2007-08-20 00:01:03

I must admit, I was one of those people that put Costa name mixed in with the All Whites. In my defence that is the first time I have seen Costa play. I had only read about him previously. Guess I was dreaming of that super star NZ striker to be born and save NZ soccer. I will have to wait a bit longer I guess. Just hope it happens in my lifetime.

I was told so many times that this NZ side would be easier to watch than the u20's well im sorry but unless i see a vast improvement in performance from that shambles on saturday i will have to disagree.

When the chant at the Backbencher got to "We're gonna win 8-7" it got a little ridiculous..

I thought Costa looked poor - I'd heard a lot about him, but this was the first time I was getting to see him play (aside from when I played against him last season, and didn't notice he was on the field).  I understand that players get nervous, but he was terrible, even aside from the penalty miss.  Expecting better tomorrow, or I will start partitioning for Costa to get dropped and someone else (anyone) to take his place in the Nix squad.

I was really impressed by Chettleburgh the little midfielder who nearly scored a screamer. Consdering he is only 15. He was solid on the ball, worked hard all day and was in the middle of most that was good about the Kiwis. I thought Hicks, Gleeson and Mathews were also solid and I really liked the look of the striker Woods.

Ye ok get over Costa hell play well against England trust me he has the potential but jst give him time. This was one game and he was playing out of position!

stop bagging costa what do you expect for him to score a hatrick v brazil or something hed prob be better wider i think the backline was terrible and that needs to be sorted mars and fraser were very poor but see how they go next couple games

he wasnt even that bad just cz he had so much hype about him its all eyes on him hes on the field with 10 other players look how bad they were aswell