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FIFA Meltdown - All Whites for WC 2026

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almost 9 years ago

Interesting article from Newsroom. A NZer has been added as a judge to the FIFA Players’ Status Committee which if he was on it when the U-23 got in trouble, he would have had to rule on it. Also makes mention that NZ could be a target for match fixing, we have both TAB and Bet 365 have odds on our local leagues now.

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/04/23/19754/nzs-ne...

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 
I'm positive things will go wrong.
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almost 9 years ago

FIFA doing a survey to gauge public opinion of them. It's quite long but you do get the chance to answer things like how trustworthy they are, or how transparent they are.....

https://confirmit.ssisurveys.com/wix9/p67373229.as...

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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almost 2 years ago
Doing some early planning, how will ticketing work for NZ fans assuming we qualify? I presume that we will know which group we are in and the locations before our allocation of tickets is distributed. 

Does anyone remember how it was done for 2010? Of course it was a less desirable tournament to attend but I'm sure that there were similar processes
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almost 2 years ago
lukemstanton
Doing some early planning, how will ticketing work for NZ fans assuming we qualify? I presume that we will know which group we are in and the locations before our allocation of tickets is distributed. 

Does anyone remember how it was done for 2010? Of course it was a less desirable tournament to attend but I'm sure that there were similar processes

FIFA site will have tickets, released in phases.
You will be able to buy a “team follow” ticket, where you say follow nz, and if they go to knockouts you keep following nz, otherwise your ticket is valid for group winner. When nz gets knocked out you follow whoever knocked them out. Something like that…and it won’t matter what group we are in as you follow the team.
Or you can just buy individual tickets as they are released.
Need to buy “named tickets” and a maxi(might be 4 or 6) for each game.
You are never guaranteed tickets; normally you apply for an allocation and if a release set is oversubscribed you get drawn for tickets.

FIFA+ app has a link on front page where you can register already and you’ll be kept up to date on ticketing process.

Alternatively, marry a quality footballer, or get your son/daughter to marry one, and you might get a free ticket as a VIP family member.

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over 1 year ago
ClubOranje
lukemstanton
Doing some early planning, how will ticketing work for NZ fans assuming we qualify? I presume that we will know which group we are in and the locations before our allocation of tickets is distributed. 

Does anyone remember how it was done for 2010? Of course it was a less desirable tournament to attend but I'm sure that there were similar processes

FIFA site will have tickets, released in phases.
You will be able to buy a “team follow” ticket, where you say follow nz, and if they go to knockouts you keep following nz, otherwise your ticket is valid for group winner. When nz gets knocked out you follow whoever knocked them out. Something like that…and it won’t matter what group we are in as you follow the team.
Or you can just buy individual tickets as they are released.
Need to buy “named tickets” and a maxi(might be 4 or 6) for each game.
You are never guaranteed tickets; normally you apply for an allocation and if a release set is oversubscribed you get drawn for tickets.

FIFA+ app has a link on front page where you can register already and you’ll be kept up to date on ticketing process.

Alternatively, marry a quality footballer, or get your son/daughter to marry one, and you might get a free ticket as a VIP family member.


For Russia it was order each round with a lottery assigning tickets. Got most games I wanted and at a good price.
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over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago · History
So a thought bubble after today's 1-1 draw against the US. And yeah I realise the limitations of the FIFA rankings.

In 2026 we will be in Pot D (likely the lowest ranked team in North America). 
12 pools of 4 teams. Drawn from

Pot A will be teams roughly 1st-12th
Pot B teams roughly 13th-24th
Pot C teams roughly 25th-36th
Pot D (including us)

First knock out round will be a R32, with the top 2 teams from each pool, plus 8 best 3rd placed teams. To grab one of those 3rd placed spots, 1 win (3 pts) could well be enough. 4 pts should definitely be enough.

So our obvious target will be 4 points from pool games against the Pot B & C teams. So roughly teams 13th-36th in the world rankings. 

Teams in that ranking range we have played the last few years include, USA (16th), Mexico (17th), Australia (24th), Sweden (29th), Qatar (34th) & Egypt (36th).

Others we have played in recent times not so far off 36th spot, that they could still land in Pot C if they qualified - include Tunisia (41st), Peru (42nd), Costa Rica (49th), Greece (54th), Ireland (58th) & Congo (60th)

Mexico, Australia, Sweden & even Greece were too good for us on the day.
But the others we pushed. Losing by 1 goal, or getting a draw (USA, Tunisia, Ireland & Congo. Apart from Aussie once at Eden Park, all the matches away or at neutral venues.

So in rough summary we have some chance I reckon to make R32 in 2026, ie get out of our pool. Will be tough, need some luck, need a healthy squad, with a good run of tough friendlies leading in, and a well set game plan plus stable side. Could happen.

Beating a team(s) ranked 25th-50th in the world at some point, is obviously the next goal, between now and 2026.

And re Bazeley. Niche Cache made a recent statement, that sometimes with international sides and their limited preparation gatherings, you almost want a coach who 'doesn't get in the way'. That is not having someone who's looking to bring in a whole different game plan they are set on, that risks bringing instability etc. National teams are always handicapped by their limited time together to bed in structures etc, none more so than NZ with players coming in from all over.

Likes of a Hiddink, Pochettino, Gareca are clearly outside of NZF's pay bracket. Perhaps the best we can hope for is someone that yes 'doesn't get in the way'.
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