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Michael Laws= Fail

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Actually not a bad article from Laws in the end. Maybe he's gone soft.

Three for me, and two for them.

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For a man that obviously hates the sport and everything it stands for - he sure likes writing about it.
 
Micahel Laws = NZ's greatest football baiter. 

 
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Stopped reading at "Football is not my game". makes everything else he writes irrelevant. The guy has to stick his shoes in every bloody doorway, doesn't he?

Nobody gives a toss about his opinions anyway. He baits in an attempt to boost his ego.

If the guy was there on Nov 14, he'd know what football is about. But he wasn't, and he doesn't.
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The challenge we want, and love
 
By Stevo
 
"We entered the World Cup not because it�s easy, but because it�s hard."

 
This Kennedyesque observation defines the reason why the next month and more will grip and captivate New Zealanders across the land, or at least all of those who give a pittance about sport.

It is why football � still soccer to most � is now recognised and embraced as the world�s most important game even by those New Zealanders who don�t much like it.

We all now know that, by that definition, this game�s pinnacle prize, the World Cup, is the hardest in sport to win or even come close to winning.

And we want to compete. We want it bad.

Thanks to some quirky turns in our social history, in the second half of the 19th Century we botched it when we came to some forks in the road and, unlike most other nations, chose to embrace sports which many decades later were found to be internationally irrelevant.

In these sports, primarily the rugby sports and netball, we at various times became unbeatable as a nation.

And we rejoiced in that. But then, relatively recently, the penny suddenly dropped: being an elite nation in these things was a bit too easy. We wanted to win in something harder, something in which the whole planet actually competes, and that �harder� could only be football and its World Cup.

3 days ago, after New Zealand surged and fought its way into the World Cup, our politicians began to talk about ticker-tape parades for our boys in the big cities. The idea was happily shelved after Ricki Herbert reacted with: �You have to be joking. We only remained undefeated. It�s not like we won the bloody thing.�

But the notion that we should so celebrate a New Zealand team for finishing an international tournament undefeated does tell you much about our desperate need to achieve in this race of monumental global relevance.

It�s a challenge we now love more than any other, not because it�s easy but because it�s hard.

Thankfully our players, and their coach, know this. This is not the group that trekked to Spain in 1982 as a brave and heroic bunch, sweetly and correctly buoyed by having made it.

This lot, which makes a living from football at its highest professional levels, and to whom pressures of expectation are an everyday thing, has the belief in its capacity to challenge all comers.

As a national football team, New Zealand shed its complexes a few weeks ago, ever since its best players emerged out of the World Cup undefeated. It now has a faith added to a desire, as its efforts against that mogul nation, Italy, testifies.

We too should share in that faith.

The cynics, pessimists and skeptics among us still abound of course. It�s our nature as football beasts. We have a natural instinct for wanting to cushion the impact of heartbreaks, many of us retaining the lingering supposition that we have no right to expect at this level, only to try.

But this is nonsense. International football is no longer a structure of such clearly defined tiers.

Jean Marc Bosman, by releasing the unlimited flow of players to the top professional leagues from all parts of the planet, has helped create a football world of increasing technical and cultural equity in which many things are now more probable than they were ever possible.

The United States drawing with England was never met with the kind of shock that when the USA won in Belo Horizonte sixty years ago.  The USA, like our lot, also has faith coupled with its ambition.

If New Zealand fails at the next World Cup it will not be for a lack of faith and desire.

Our next opponents should and will be aware.
Stevo2010-06-27 18:01:10
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The SST should be paying you, Stevo, for your opinion, rather than the uninformed git that is Mr Laws.
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As much as most of what he said was moronic, at least it's an improvement on his previous efforts.
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Why does this guy get a new thread every time he writes some rubbish?

Bet he feels very important.

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At least he calls it football?

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I wouldnt expect anyone in wanganui to like football, its the most ghetto place in NZ. Theyre sh*t at sport in general.
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Tegal wrote:

Why does this guy get a new thread every time he writes some rubbish?

Bet he feels very important.
 
^ This

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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I wouldnt expect anyone in wanganui to like football, its the most ghetto place in NZ. Theyre sh*t at sport in general.
Wrong , I have  played in many  Masters tournaments  at Wembley Park Wanganui ,there are several well maintained  pitches and a great little stand on the main ground .
There seems to be reasonably vibrant football community in the city just a pity they have a washed up failed NZ First MP lemon with some kind of attention seeking disorder as mayor !
Kiwi Jambo2010-06-29 15:13:05

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+ a couple of cow paddocks, and the fields are all quite small. We always did love the trips out to Wanganui though, usually managed to come home with points.
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New Zealand football has little to worry about
 
By Stevo
 
I see the anti-soccer mob back home has found a fresh horse to ride on � New Zealand failure to advance to the second phase of the World Cup.
Boy, they are loving this.

Whew, it was close though.  Smeltz converting his sitter against Slovakia and our boys would have been in the last 16 and may now be preparing to face Brazil in the quarter-finals.

That�s where Slovakia is now, the team which till it met the Italy managed to score just one goal, one lousy and lucky goal, in its two previous group games.

That�s the fine line between success and failure in a football World Cup, the wondrous fickleness of the game that these miserable Neanderthals do not understand, or refuse to see.

It�s the theatre of it which makes the World Cup so appealing, even in New Zealand where so far 2 million people have watched it and where it brings hundreds out into the city to watch and celebrate in the dead of winter.

And the pointy end is still to come.

The anti-soccer resistance movement continues to shrink and has become totally irrelevant, its members cutting lonely figures stumbling about in the dark.

They huddle in desperate fear that New Zealand will get to qualify for the cup in 4 years time. What that might do to demonstrate how important football is to New Zealanders terrifies them.

Most of them are so old they�ll hopefully be smelling violets from underneath by the time that happens.

The few younger ones will of course jump on the bandwagon and cash in as cheap media tarts. Some of them are here in South Africa doing it now.

Of course they could be right in their argument that �the round ball game� is less than entertaining.

To quote a colleague with us here in Cape Town: �The other codes are never dull. Salary cap rorts. Defecating in hotel corridors. Slavery.  Wife beating.  Pack rape. Drugs. Racism. That's what football needs. More meatheads. Spice it up a bit.�

Football and its broad appeal in New Zealand has gone so far in the past 8 months that I have long ago ceased to be concerned by these cave dwellers.

But I do wish they�d shut up.

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Excellent Stevo! My subscription payment is in the mail.
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Sorry Michael.
 
"the media stopped being reporters and simply became fans". You put yourself in this category (albeit as an anti-fan) when you wrote that NZ lost to Vanuatu before beating Bahrain. We lost to Fiji, and the context  was that we had already won the group, and were giving some second-stringers a hit-out. ( A bit like Mr. Henry's rotation policy). A reporter without an axe to grind might have done their research. The Vanuatu loss was in 2004, and ensured we didn't qualify for the 2006 World Cup.
 
It should also be remembered that if we hadn't beaten Bahrain, they may well have gone straight to the Cup after beating Saudi Arabia. Given some of the results of the top 4 Asian teams, it might not have been pretty. Then again, they may have done well. That's the beauty of football -it's unpredictability.
 
I'm not advocating that football supplant rugby, but simply that media coverage of the game in New Zealand, and of it's players abroad reflects the standing of the game internationally, and the level of public interest (and there is more than domestic coverage allows for) in New Zealand. 
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I sent him an email when I was in Sth Africa saying this about his Nov 09 article
 
"I'm not in NZ to gauge the response to the WC so far - but it looks like
you might have some egg on your face Michael"
 
to which he replied
"Doubt it. Incrediblt fortunate that class doesn't matter in the game of
soccer."
 
I asked him if it was a bit like politics then

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Tegal wrote:
At least he calls it football?
 
 
 
Don't you mean Whootball?

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Kiwi Jambo wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I wouldnt expect anyone in wanganui to like football, its the most ghetto place in NZ. Theyre sh*t at sport in general.
Wrong , I have  played in many  Masters tournaments  at Wembley Park Wanganui ,there are several well maintained  pitches and a great little stand on the main ground .
There seems to be reasonably vibrant football community in the city just a pity they have a washed up failed NZ First MP lemon with some kind of attention seeking disorder as mayor !

Was always a slaughter fest whenever we went to Wanganui, or whenever they came down here
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AJ13 wrote:
Kiwi Jambo wrote:
AJ13 wrote:
I wouldnt expect anyone in wanganui to like football, its the most ghetto place in NZ. Theyre sh*t at sport in general.
Wrong , I have  played in many  Masters tournaments  at Wembley Park Wanganui ,there are several well maintained  pitches and a great little stand on the main ground .
There seems to be reasonably vibrant football community in the city just a pity they have a washed up failed NZ First MP lemon with some kind of attention seeking disorder as mayor !

Was always a slaughter fest whenever we went to Wanganui, or whenever they came down here


True The Masters did have their stranger moments in Wanganui like the whole Brooklyn team sharing the one room at the hotel ,now thats bonding for you!

The answer to life's problems are rarely found at the bottom of a beer glass - but it's always worth a look.

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While not football related, well... soccer related, heres the latest from Michael Lawls

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/3943266/Laws-Wanganui-will-win-Shield-off-poofy-Stags

"The Wanganui rugby team are how the Southland Stags used to be "before they got all poofy", Whanganui Mayor Michael Laws said yesterday."



Oh and you can post comments as well, so make hate!
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"The Wanganui rugby team are how the Southland Stags used to be "before
they got all poofy", Whanganui Mayor Michael Laws said yesterday."




"For one man to love another, Vyvyan, is not 'poofy'. It's actually very beautiful. It's only when they start touching each others' bottoms that it becomes poofy."

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While not football related, well... soccer related, heres the latest from Michael Lawlshttp://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/3943266/Laws-Wanganui-will-win-Shield-off-poofy-Stags"The Wanganui rugby team are how the Southland Stags used to be "before
they got all poofy", Whanganui Mayor Michael Laws said yesterday."Oh and you can post comments as well, so make hate!


Endless source of amusement. Well done Laws.
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Anything to pick a fight

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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And yet his team will likely lose to "poofy" Southland. Twat.
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Yup, we'll likely get our arses handed to us on a poofy platter :)

Yellow Whever Whanganui

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for me,thats as bad as paul holmes and haden calling people "darkies".

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Given that Laws isn't exactly from the Chopper Reid School of Masculinity himself, I find his choice of words quite amusing.
 
Jag2010-07-22 12:25:53

Apparently I'm apathetic, but I couldn't care less.

"Being a Partick Thistle fan sets you apart. It means youre a free thinker. It also means your team has no money." Tim Luckhurst, The Independent, 4th December 2003

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Apart from the 'poofy' comment, i'm with Laws on this one - he is doing what any good provincial mayor should, stirring up parochialism, supporting his team, and generating publicity for his town.
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Is that meant to be good for the town or good for the mayor???
I suppose it might bring a few more people into the game, but not convinced Law's controversial posturing is generating jobs or wealth in Wangas.
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the poofy comment is pretty much his main point though. and the fact he said something so homophobic kind of negates any other point he made tbh.

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Lets play the caption game!
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Tegal wrote:
the poofy comment is pretty much his main point though. and the fact he said something so homophobic kind of negates any other point he made tbh.
 
poofy is  a way of acting and one of the poofiest/ mincing guys i ever met was hetro all the way (tho cd never understand what woman saw in him). I highly doubt Laws is homophobic as takes a man happy with his own masculinity to be wed to a female bodybuilder and to promote his town as the glass blowing capital of the sthrn hemisphere
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stealthkiwi wrote:
Tegal wrote:
the poofy comment is pretty much his main point though. and the fact he said something so homophobic kind of negates any other point he made tbh.
 
poofy is  a way of acting and one of the poofiest/ mincing guys i ever met was hetro all the way (tho cd never understand what woman saw in him). I highly doubt Laws is homophobic as takes a man happy with his own masculinity to be wed to a female bodybuilder and to promote his town as the glass blowing capital of the sthrn hemisphere
 
Whether he is homophobic or not it is still a derogatory term for homosexuals.
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I have loads of gay mates and they use the term poofy to describe a certain type of guy the same way me and all my so called liberal mates do
 
poofy is a subset to gay the same way macho is to hetro. both interchange. neither have anything to do with where your instrument goes. its purely about behaviour
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stealthkiwi wrote:
I have loads of gay mates


... yeah, starting a sentence like that is pretty much guaranteed instant fail. In the same way that you can't use the word "n*gger*", even if you have lots of African friends.

And you're pretty much arguing that a word doesn't mean what virtually everyone else on this thread thinks it means. That's pretty much a guaranteed fail as well.Doloras2010-07-22 13:48:42

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Doloras wrote:
stealthkiwi wrote:
I have loads of gay mates


... yeah, starting a sentence like that is pretty much guaranteed instant fail. In the same way that you can't use the word "n*gger*", even if you have lots of African friends.

And you're pretty much arguing that a word doesn't mean what virtually everyone else on this thread thinks it means. That's pretty much a guaranteed fail as well.
 
Well firstly you are assuming I'm not gay myself - tho I'm fairly sure that if I was and just not wanting to advertise it here you'd still think I don't have the right to use this word
 
Secondly a guaranteed fail doesn't mean one shouldn't argue ones point or that everyone else is right - particularly when we're talking about an audience high in young males talking about other's sexuality
 
To me and those I know (no matter what their sexual orientation) poofy doesn't mean gay. It means a type of behaviour - someone who is effete. And only a moron seriously believes all homosexuals behave in one way - the same way not everyone thinks all lesbians are dykes tho I'm sure I'm about to get a lecture about usage of that word too where the truth is that most people do think of a certain flavour of lesbian that way not necessarily using the word or thought as  a bad thing just a way of describing them
 
Why give a word such power
 
and truthfully I think comparing the word 'poofy' usually used in the context meaning someone is soft (an adjective) and the word 'nigger' usually used in the context meaning someone is african american (a noun) is fairly defensive
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