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New Zealand Men's U-17s

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
NZ U17 should go through to next 16.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
Looks like a very exciting game between Ivory Coast and Denmark, 3-2 at HT.

Ivorians - 21 shots, 12 on target just in the first half!

Denmark scored two goals from their only two shots on target.
 
It finished 4-2.  Souleymane Coulibaly got all 4 of them.  Come on Carmichael, you've got some work to do.
 
Players - Top goals
Player GF PEN MP Souleymane COULIBALY 5 1 2 Stephen CARMICHAEL 3 0 2 Samed YESIL 2 0 2 Levent AYCICEK 2 1 2 ADEMILSON 2 0 2
 
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
AngusBeef wrote:
NZ U17 should go through to next 16.


Nice jinx there.

Three for me, and two for them.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
We need either Czech or Ubek to win can not afford a draw in case we lose otherwise we finish fourth in the group and are out.
 
With 3 points and a positive goal difference (at this stage) i'd expect us to go through, so long as we stay in 3rd spot and dont get the before mentioned draw.
 
Still would just rather beat U.S.A and forget about all the other equations.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Harshae Raniga the LB is right footed and his natural position is at RB, that' maybe one of the reason why he struggled last game. But actually the guy is going after the tournament to England at west bromwich albion for a second trial
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.

Three for me, and two for them.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.


You might have something there, although putting all the credit in the hands of one guy is probably unfair to a bunch of others.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.


Umm there is another man.Wynton, who has 7 students here and they scored all the goals so far and defended well.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.


You might have something there, although putting all the credit in the hands of one guy is probably unfair to a bunch of others.


Yep that is true Smithy, lots of others behind the scenes have worked hard to prepare this team as well. But personally i think what Ramon brings in terms of added knowledge and experience is invaluable to the lads.

Three for me, and two for them.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.


There were lots of others-coming thru the grades, Ramon is at the finish line,no disrespect but thats the truth of it and if he has influenced them in the last 7 days I will personally hunt him down and shake his hand with a beer
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Smithy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.


You might have something there, although putting all the credit in the hands of one guy is probably unfair to a bunch of others.


And don't forget Steve Cain who has worked with the majority of these players 4 or 5 times a week for the last year...
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
MrWaikato wrote:

Smithy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.


You might have something there, although putting all the credit in the hands of one guy is probably unfair to a bunch of others.
And don't forget Steve Cain who has worked with the majority of these players 4 or 5 times a week for the last year...


I agree.

If you are old and wise you were probably young and stupid

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Cain may have worked with them plenty, but ultimately set them up to play negative football. What Ramon (and Aaron too to an extent) has brought to the table is a completely different approach and trust in the players to foot it with their opponents, rather than park the bus hoping for a draw.

Three for me, and two for them.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago

So long as this style is continued with and not lsot as they progress - u20's for example can be a bit negative.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
Smithy wrote:
I just watched at replay of the last game (at Four Kings), and I reckon this is the most entertaining New Zealand team I've ever watched play. Possibly even the BEST New Zealand team I've ever seen play.


I put it down to one man. Ramon.


You might have something there, although putting all the credit in the hands of one guy is probably unfair to a bunch of others.


Yep that is true Smithy, lots of others behind the scenes have worked hard to prepare this team as well. But personally i think what Ramon brings in terms of added knowledge and experience is invaluable to the lads.


I watched the game again after reading these comments and have to agree, this team has real promise. The second half was a transformation, ball control on attack was impressive overall, with more purpose and commitment clearly there. Whoever contributes to enable these young lads, keep it going!!

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
TouchMe wrote:
We need either Czech or Ubek to win can not afford a draw in case we lose otherwise we finish fourth in the group and are out.
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With 3 points and a positive goal difference (at this stage) i'd expect us to go through, so long as we stay in 3rd spot and dont get the before mentioned draw.

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Still would just rather beat U.S.A and forget about all the other equations.


Exactly right - if we secure the third, even with a loss to the US, we will get through.

The danger is if we find ourselves behind in the US game, the Czechs and Uzbeks just take it easy and settle for the draw which would put them both through.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
TouchMe wrote:
We need either Czech or Ubek to win can not afford a draw in case we lose otherwise we finish fourth in the group and are out.
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With 3 points and a positive goal difference (at this stage) i'd expect us to go through, so long as we stay in 3rd spot and dont get the before mentioned draw.

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Still would just rather beat U.S.A and forget about all the other equations.


Exactly right - if we secure the third, even with a loss to the US, we will get through.

The danger is if we find ourselves behind in the US game, the Czechs and Uzbeks just take it easy and settle for the draw which would put them both through.


dont think the czechs and uzbeks would do that, to much to lose if something goes wrong

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Nothing that hasn't happened before. But it's up to us not to get ourselves into that situation in the first place.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
exactly, the results have played well into our hands so we have a backup option, but i think we can win this game, if the 2nd half against the czechs was anything to go from, our destiny is in our own handsdetoxin2011-06-25 12:50:00

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Korea DPR 1 - 1 Congo
...and the Congo coach probably just said
"Thank Christ for That!!"..... Christ Nkounkou that is, who scored the 75th min equaliser to enable Congo to go through to the final 16 with Mexico from Group A. Netherlands and Korea out.
RedGed2011-06-25 13:03:26

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
is Four kings going to be open for this game tomorow? Junior Warriors game starts 30 mins after ours, kinda sh*t timing.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
RedGed wrote:


Korea DPR 1 - 1 Congo...and the Congo coach probably just said"Thank Christ for That!!"..... Christ Nkounkou that is, who scored the 75th min equaliser to enable Congo to go through to the final 16 with Mexico from Group A. Netherlands and Korea out.


Argentina out after being beaten 3-1 by Japan. Jamaica also out. france and Japan progress.

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Apparently the USA side has been together for two years with a budget of 6 million dollars to prepare for this tournament.
 
Really looking forward to watching our boys take them on tomorrow.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
whats the young all whites budget?
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
George Kostanza wrote:
whats the young all whites budget?
 
Not six million!
 
So, with the results today, it seems that a draw will DEFINITELY get NZ though as one of the four best third-place finishers, given third place in Groups A and B have 2 and 3 points respectively and a draw would take NZ to four.
 
Even a narrow loss might be enough, provided the other game (Uzbekistan v Czech Republic) isn't a draw.  If there's a result in that game and NZ don't lose by too much, NZ will finish on 3 points and in third place (ahead of whoever loses the Uzbek/CR game) and also with a better goal difference than Argentina (-4 GD) from Group B.
 
Have I got that right?
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
^ seems ok to me.

odds are stacked against us

TAB Odds
1          USA U17      $1.57     
2          New Zealand U17      $5.00     
3          Draw     $3.60

No fate but what we make, losing is not an option. COYYAW
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
George Kostanza wrote:
^ seems ok to me.

odds are stacked against us

TAB Odds
1          USA U17       $1.57     
2          New Zealand U17      $5.00     
3          Draw     $3.60

No fate but what we make, losing is not an option. COYYAW


was similar to the ubecks game then

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

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over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Thats good odds right there.COYYAW!

  Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
George Kostanza wrote:
whats the young all whites budget?
Probably a pie and a coke.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
George Kostanza wrote:
RedGed wrote:


Korea DPR 1 - 1 Congo...and the Congo coach probably just said"Thank Christ for That!!"..... Christ Nkounkou that is, who scored the 75th min equaliser to enable Congo to go through to the final 16 with Mexico from Group A. Netherlands and Korea out.


Argentina still has a chance of progressing as one the best 4 3rd-placed teams, dependent on results tomorrow and Monday morning.

Argentina out after being beaten 3-1 by Japan. Jamaica also out. france and Japan progress.



Argentina still has a chance of progressing as one of the best 4 3rd-placed teams, dependent on results tomorrow and Monday morning.

el grapadura2011-06-25 20:01:50
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
And normally consists of "borrowed" clothes that you have to give back after the tournament. 
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Does anyone know if its showing at the 4Kings??  (Live)
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
el grapadura wrote:
George Kostanza wrote:
RedGed wrote:


Korea DPR 1 - 1 Congo...and the Congo coach probably just said"Thank Christ for That!!"..... Christ Nkounkou that is, who scored the 75th min equaliser to enable Congo to go through to the final 16 with Mexico from Group A. Netherlands and Korea out.
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Argentina still has a chance of progressing as one the best 4 3rd-placed teams, dependent on results tomorrow and Monday morning.

Argentina out after being beaten 3-1 by Japan. Jamaica also out. france and Japan progress.



Argentina still has a chance of progressing as one of the best 4 3rd-placed teams, dependent on results tomorrow and Monday morning.



Right you are, I only saw their terrible goal difference (-4) and immediately wrote them off.




[QUOTE=Chelski Liz]

Does anyone know if its showing at the 4Kings??� (Live)


According the the guy I spoke to on the phone downstairs is open from 10am and upstairs 11am. Commentary will be downstairs. Or it could be other other way round. Main point is it's open.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Sweet. Thanks.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
its game day, fire up

Calling all fans in Japan, come down and support the mighty nix in Osaka

http://www.facebook.com/WellingtonPhoenixClubMembersSupportersGroupOsaka

over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Group C matches on at the moment - Uruguay v England and Canada v Rwanda...both goal-less approaching HT.
 
If the Canada v Rwanda match is drawn, the third placed side in NZ's group will be guaranteed a place in the knockout stages, because the third placed team in Group C would only have two points, and the third-placed team in Group A also finished with two points.
 
 
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
brilliant - go both keepers!!

still 0-0 at about 88 mins

update - finished 0-0

so if our supreme stats and media man is right that means we can just win for fun this morning tigers2011-06-26 10:00:20
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
The only way they can miss out now is to finish fourth in the group, which they will if they lose and CR v Uzbek is a draw.
over 14 years ago · edited over 13 years ago
Its about to start!!