All Whites, Ferns, and other international teams
Ridenton perhaps working on some senior NZ team stuff?
Boyd and Thomas are too old correct (albeit by a week or so)?
Good result, can't remember the last time we beat an Island side so convincingly. Perhaps having the u20 team is now paying dividends.
Isnt tuiloma still eligible next year?
Scoop - NZ u-20 to play in a four nation tournament in China June 1 - 10 and Jesse Edge called up.
Jesse Edge has been playing regularly in the Vicenza youth/ reserve team in Serie C in Italy since January.
From the Vicenza club website:
"JESSE EDGE CALLED UP FOR NEW ZEALAND UNDER-TWENTY TEAM"
Friday, April 11, 2014. Posted in News
"Vicenza Calcio announced that the player Jesse Edge, defender of the training class 1995 red and white hats coached by Mr. Massimo Beghetto, was summoned to the national team for the New Zealand Under 20 "4 Nation Tournament" to be held in China next June 1 to 10."
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________UPDATE: CHINESE FA MEDIA RELEASE - TOURNAMENT TO INCLUDE NZ, CHINA, CROATIA AND BRAZIL !!!
http://www.fa.org.cn/bulletin/media/2014-05-04/435634.html
2014 "PANDA CUP" INTERNATIONAL YOUTH (U19) FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT 2014 JUNE 4 - 8 IN CHENGDU
Schedule as follows:
June 4, 2014: China VS New Zealand 15:00 (tentative) Dujiangyan Phoenix Sports Center
Brazil VS Croatia 19:00 (tentative) Chengdu Shuangliu Sports Center
June 6, 2014: Croatia VS China 19:00 (tentative) Chengdu Shuangliu Sports Center
Brazil VS New Zealand 15:00 (tentative) Chengdu Shuangliu Sports Center
June 8, 2014: China VS Brazil 19:00 (tentative) Chengdu Shuangliu Sports Center
New Zealand VS Croatia 15:00 (tentative) Chengdu Shuangliu Sports Center
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Good news. In come the overseas-based players. Now we'll get a better picture of what the Under-20's of 2015 might look like.
And hey! We've got our hands on the Cup already! (see www.stuff.co.nz latest) courtesy of Wynton at Waitangi.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
One team we won't be facing next year - and neither will anyone else - is Gambia. Following admission that their Under-20 team fielded 5 over-age players in last year's African Nations comp, they've been excluded from internationals at all levels for the next 2 years.
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
Isnt tuiloma still eligible next year?
Yes, I am pretty sure he is eligible....
Isnt tuiloma still eligible next year?
Yes, I am pretty sure he is eligible....
Can anyone tell us what the age elegibility cut off dates are?
Same it has been forever and a day. 1 Jan of the relevant year, so for 2015 U20WC must be born on or after 1 Jan 1995.
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
Well from the squad tonight these players weren't in the U17s Hirst, Messenger, Wynn, Trbuhovic, Stevens, Bowkett. At least two of those don't live in Auckland
Fuck this stupid game
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
Well from the squad tonight these players weren't in the U17s Hirst, Messenger, Wynn, Trbuhovic, Stevens, Bowkett. At least two of those don't live in Auckland
I think TopLeft was referring to a scandal from a few years ago...
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
Well from the squad tonight these players weren't in the U17s Hirst, Messenger, Wynn, Trbuhovic, Stevens, Bowkett. At least two of those don't live in Auckland
(topleft) Sexist comment! If I were female I may have been offended.(even if you are just trying to poke). Kick Racism and now Sexisim out of football?
(2nd Best). I believe the 2 that were on the field 'not from Auckland' were from the 17's. The rest probably back up my words about Auckland/blinkers and maybe I should added 'short sightness'
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
Well from the squad tonight these players weren't in the U17s Hirst, Messenger, Wynn, Trbuhovic, Stevens, Bowkett. At least two of those don't live in Auckland
Grumpy old bastard alert
JV, think you should delete the name. It was a long time ago and unless you were the other party not really your business.
"Who ate all the pies"
Thomas and Boyd too old by a month i think
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Isnt tuiloma still eligible next year?
Yes, I am pretty sure he is eligible....
"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...
I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...
Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...
Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."
Isnt tuiloma still eligible next year?
Yes, I am pretty sure he is eligible....
People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.
CHINESE FA MEDIA RELEASE - U-20 TOURNAMENT TO INCLUDE NZ, CHINA, CROATIA AND BRAZIL !!!
http://www.fa.org.cn/bulletin/media/2014-05-04/435634.html
2014 "PANDA CUP" INTERNATIONAL YOUTH (U19) FOOTBALL TOURNAMENT 2014 JUNE 4 - 8 IN CHENGDU
NZ Schedule as follows:
June 4, 2014: China VS New Zealand 15:00 (tentative) Dujiangyan Phoenix Sports Center
June 6, 2014: Brazil VS New Zealand 15:00 (tentative) Chengdu Shuangliu Sports Center
June 8, 2014: New Zealand VS Croatia 15:00 (tentative) Chengdu Shuangliu Sports Center
From the Vicenza club website:
"JESSE EDGE CALLED UP FOR NEW ZEALAND UNDER-TWENTY TEAM"
Friday, April 11, 2014. Posted in News
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
Well from the squad tonight these players weren't in the U17s Hirst, Messenger, Wynn, Trbuhovic, Stevens, Bowkett. At least two of those don't live in Auckland
(topleft) Sexist comment! If I were female I may have been offended.(even if you are just trying to poke). Kick Racism and now Sexisim out of football?
(2nd Best). I believe the 2 that were on the field 'not from Auckland' were from the 17's. The rest probably back up my words about Auckland/blinkers and maybe I should added 'short sightness'
Fuck this stupid game
The Panda tournament. I agree with big Pete. Quite odd that BP and an Italian Serie b reserve grade team and the Chinese FA announce this before NZF. What on earth is Andy doing? Then again it could be a calculated plan to feed the media a new news story after the Fiji games.
Kotahitanga. We are one.
The Panda tournament. I agree with big Pete. Quite odd that BP and an Italian Serie b reserve grade team and the Chinese FA announce this before NZF. What on earth is Andy doing? Then again it could be a calculated plan to feed the media a new news story after the Fiji games.
Good news - confirmed to me tonight on "FIFA u-20 World Cup NZ 2015" Facebook that NZ are definitely taking part:
FIFA U-20 World Cup New Zealand 2015 Hey. We were waiting till after the last game tomorrow in NZ before promoting it. But thanks!!!
Wow!!! That's going to be some opposition - Brazil, Croatia and China!!!
These Junior All Whites are going to be so well-prepared for the Finals next year - our best-prepared youth team ever. Previously our best-prepared would have been the 1999 NZ u-17 team when we hosted the Finals, who started their preparation the year before by touring Europe with Wynton Rufer and then had a "mini World Cup" build-up tournament in Christchurch after that also in 1998 against USA, South Africa, Tahiti and the Solomons.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Despite winning the OFC qualifying tournament a few years back Tahiti have not put a team together for the U20's since?. Does anyone know why (Or care?). Seems strange since NZ wont be there and they have had a lot of exposure since then (Confed Cup + Beach football WC) that there failure to put out a team is bizarre.
Mr Positive
Despite winning the OFC qualifying tournament a few years back Tahiti have not put a team together for the U20's since?. Does anyone know why (Or care?). Seems strange since NZ wont be there and they have had a lot of exposure since then (Confed Cup + Beach football WC) that there failure to put out a team is bizarre.
That's a good observation - especially when you consider even the weakest football country in Oceania, American Samoa, population 55,000, are competing in the qualifiers taking place in a few weeks in Fiji.
The problem could lie in players and management not selling enough chickens on the street to finance travel:
I always thought Tahiti received a lot of financial input from France into its economy and so are one of the wealthier Pacific islands. According to Wiki, France donates US$150 million a year under a new agreement from the beginning of 2006. That's the equivalent of US $1000 given to every Tahitian. Imports are subsidized too.
However, it seems little French financial assistance goes to Tahitian football and what little money is available is often squandered by corruption / incompetence.
An article last year in leading French paper "Le Monde" revealed national u-20 players and their families had to sell chickens on the street to finance their travel to the 2009 u-20 World Cup in Egypt:
Interview with former Tahiti senior and u-20 manager Lionel Charbonnier:
"FOOTBALL: IN TAHITI THEY SOLD CHICKENS TO FINANCE THE NATIONAL TEAM'S TRAVEL"
Le Monde.fr | 22/06/2013 at 6:52 p.m. • Updated 22/06/2013 at 7:08 p.m. |Interview with Adrien Pécout
For these cash flow issues, you did not have the support of your president, the inescapable Temarii ?
"We were incompatibile and it was not going too well. Everyone knows what happened to him a few months later [in 2010, FIFA suspended him for suspected corruption in the vote for the host country of 2018 World Cup]. I remember when we had qualified for the FIFA 2009 World Cup Under 20 years, he stopped paying my technical staff. To finance part of the trip, he then made the players and the staff, including my wife and children, to go cook and sell chickens in the street ...."
Chickens?
"There is a tradition, often when an association or club need money to take the plane. The ticket price is very expensive. If I remember correctly, a roundtrip to the metropolis is 1 500 euros minimum in low season. So the families concerned work at night to cook chicken, and in the morning, everyone went door to door to sell his chickens everywhere. To help out, some buyers sometimes pay ten times more than the regular price. This extraordinary Tahitian solidarity has allowed us to bring a lot of money."
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Maybe NZ U17 kids can sell chickens to help fund there trips to the WC (Fred de Jong take note).
As for Tahiti's U20 maybe they ran out of chickens, A trip to Fiji to qlfy then to NZ (If they won) wouldn't cost as many chickens as there 2009 trip did.
Mr Positive
Someone was compiling a list of U20 World Cup possibles. Can't remember if he was mentioned of not, but probably should add Nick Delmoro. Has just signed with Spanish 2nd div Hercules.
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Big Pete 65, Christchurch
'Junior All Whites coach Darren Bazeley has cast his selection net wide in naming 28 players for three U-20 internationals against Fiji and Papua New Guinea in Auckland from this Sunday'
This may have been true for 17's. But from what I hear Bazeley and NZ Football have had blinkers on since then.They have not considered looking at any players other than those chosen for 17's or Aucklanders who are under there noses!!!.
What about the players who were the nearly but not quite there for 17's from around the rest of the country.Have they even bothered looking at them, to see where they are at development wise. A lot of development happens in these years. I have seen some players who have grown and developed allot in this time, and some others who have stagnated at the level they were at in 17's.
It's seems like it was a closed book on the 20's team as soon as the 17's were named.
Well from the squad tonight these players weren't in the U17s Hirst, Messenger, Wynn, Trbuhovic, Stevens, Bowkett. At least two of those don't live in Auckland
(topleft) Sexist comment! If I were female I may have been offended.(even if you are just trying to poke). Kick Racism and now Sexisim out of football?
(2nd Best). I believe the 2 that were on the field 'not from Auckland' were from the 17's. The rest probably back up my words about Auckland/blinkers and maybe I should added 'short sightness'
Junior All Whites – Panda Cup International Tournament, China
June 2014
Goalkeepers
Damian Hirst (Birkenhead Utd AFC)
Oliver Sail (Central Utd FC)
Defenders Cory Brown (Western Suburbs)
Jesse Edge (Vicenza Calcio, ITA)
Brock Messenger (Sunshine Coast Fire, AUS)
Adam Mitchell (Central Utd FC)
Te Atawhai Wihongi Hudson (Real Salt Lake, USA)
Midfielders Daniel Bowkett (Miramar Rangers)
Andre de Jong (East Coast Bays AFC)
Michael den Heijer (Kashiwa Reysol, JPN)
Monty Patterson (Ipswich Town FC, ENG)
Matthew Ridenton (Wellington Phoenix)
Alex Rufer (Wellington Phoenix)
Birhanu Taye (Braga FC, POR)
Bill Tuiloma (L’Olympique Marseille, FRA)
Forwards Judd Baker (East Coast Bays AFC)
Stuart Holthusen (Onehunga Sports)
Joel Stevens (Miramar Rangers)
Tomislav Trbuhovic (Whittlesea Rangers FC, AUS)
Management staff
Coach: Darren Bazeley
Assistant coach: Will Gerdsen
Goalkeeper coach: Jonathan Gould
Manager: Rod Grove
Physio: Allan Pearce
Match schedule
New Zealand v China
Phoenix Sports Centre Stadium
Dujiangyan City, China
Wednesday 4 June, 3pm (7pm NZ time)
New Zealand v Brazil
Shuangliu Stadium
Chengdu City, China
Friday 6 June, 3pm (7pm NZ time)
New Zealand v Croatia
Shuangliu Stadium
Chengdu City, China
Sunday 8 June, 3pm (7pm NZ time)
Wow that's a lot of overseas players! ..sign of the times huh? Very strong looking squad. Five defenders might mean Bill Tuiloma features at the back though..
CAN CHECK OUT TWO OF NZ'S OPPONENTS NEXT MONTH AT THE PANDA CUP, CHINA (BRAZIL, CHINA) AT THE
TOULON U-20 TOURNAMENT ON ESPN3 FOR SKY SPORT SUBSCRIBERS:
Can check out prospective qualifying sides for the u-20 World Cup on iSky (or "Sky Go" or whatever they call it now) on ESPN3.com if you're a Sky Sport subscriber.
Thay are showing games from the current Toulon Tournament - Europe's biggest friendly international u-20 tournament held every year in Toulon, France.
This year's participating teams: France, Brazil, England, Portugal, Chile, China, Colombia, Mexico, South Korea, Qatar
Runs May 22 - June 2 NZT
To watch online on Sky Go ("iSky") via ESPN3:
http://www.skygo.co.nz/catchup/channels/espn3com
After you've signed in and gone to ESPN3, find the live schedule here:
http://espni.go.com/player/video/sky/index.htm
Next live matches in Toulon Tournament: Sunday May 25: South Korea v. Qatar 1.30 am; Brazil v. Colombia 3.45 am
Full match schedule and result updates here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Toulon_Tournament
Tournament website (in French - use Google Translate):
http://www.festival-foot-espoirs.com/
Full squads, match reports etc. here.
BRAZIL U-20 SQUAD:
Naturally looks pretty awesome - I guess they'll take the same team to China to play our Junior All Whites, Croatia and China in the Panda Cup next month. China will be pretty busy too.
Brazil squad for the Toulon Tournament includes (on top of their Brazil-based talent) the European-based trio:
http://www.festival-foot-espoirs.com/festival-foot-espoirs/list-festival-foot.php?ID_nation=2
| Lucas Domingues Piazon | Lucas Piazon | 20.01.1994 | Chelsea (Eng) |
| Marcos Correa Aoas | Marquinhos | 14/05/1994 | SG Paris (France) |
| Douglas dos Santos Justino de Melo | DOUGLAS SANTOS | 03/22/1994 | Udinese (Ita) |
CHINA:
China u-20 Squad at the Toulon Tournament (probably the same will face NZ in June):
http://www.festival-foot-espoirs.com/festival-foot-espoirs/list-festival-foot.php?ID_nation=4
Overseas-based players:
| LIU | Yiming | 28.02.1995 | Sporting Portugal (Por) |
| XU | Xin | 19.04.1994 | Atletico Madrid (Esp) |
| WANG | Shangyuan | 02.06.1993 | Bruges (Bel) |
| YEERJIETI | Yeerzhati | 04.01.1993 | Gondomar (Por) |
| JIA | Tianzi | 28.02.1994 | SC Covilha (Por) |
| GUO | YI | 29.01.1993 | Tondela (Por) |
| LI | Yuanyi | 28.08.1993 | Boavista (Por) |
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Strong looking squad of 16. Great to see Tuiloma named as a midfielder. Anyone know of any coverage here for this? NZ friendly viewing times.
Big Pete 65, Christchurch
Did anybody get along to Shepherds Park to watch the U20's play a Birko selection. Just interested to see what anyone thought now the overseas players are back.
Did anybody get along to Shepherds Park to watch the U20's play a Birko selection. Just interested to see what anyone thought now the overseas players are back.
Doesn't seem like many of these guys are at the Wanderers
Normo's coming home