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I dont think De Vries cares about playing for NZ.
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Hes been playing Waitak 1st team since what 09/10? I dont know his stats for the VPL but im pretty sure hes a regular starting player and goal scorer in oz too. He wasnt in U20s and hes not in the U23s. Neil emblem is coaching the side so he would of surely told Ryan to come and have a run around with the squad. You cant tell that Ethan Gabrelle or Sean Lovemore is a better striker than he is. Could be that he doesnt want to represent NZ because he wants to represent South Africa when hes older. (assuming that he goes pro)

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a: Does Olympics qualify as tying him to NZ? I don't think it does. He would be in the same boat as Marco in that he would not be tied to NZ until he represented NZ in an A international.
b: If he was going to be playing for SA, considering where they sit in world football as opposed to us, he wont be getting there any time soon based on where he is playing now, how he performs and that he's not even on their age group radar. Good footballer but not good enough for SA.
c: Is he a striker or a wide man?
d: It was rumoured that at the time of U20s he was not a holder of an NZ passport and there was a rush to get it but not done in time. This would explain that.
e: He may not want to play for NZ knowing that with Marco and Kosta most certainly to come into the squad for the Olympics and playing a similar role, he would likely be dropped.
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Hard News wrote:
New Zealand Men's Olympic camp squad
February 7-10, Auckland

Goalkeepers
Scott BASALAJ (Team Wellington)
Rhyss KEANE (Green Gully, AUS)
Matt UPTON (Waitakere United)

Defenders
Sam CAMPBELL (Auckland City)
Michael EAGER (Team Wellington)
Ross HAVILAND (Waitakere United)
Mikey KRAMER (Waikato FC)
Andrew MILNE (Auckland City)
James MUSA (Team Wellington)
Tim MYERS (Waitakere United)
Tristan PRATTLEY (Otago United)
Jonathan RAJ (Team Wellington)
Luke ROWE (Team Wellington)

Midfielders
Alex FENERIDIS (Auckland City)
Jason HICKS (Waikato FC)
Cameron LINDSAY (Wellington Phoenix)
Adam MCGEORGE (Auckland City)
Daniel SARIC (Unattached)
Adam THOMAS (Waikato FC)

Forwards
Andy BEVIN (Waitakere United)
Louis FENTON (Team Wellington)
Ethan GALBRAITH (Team Wellington)
Sean LOVEMORE (Waitakere United)
Dakota LUCAS (Team Wellington)

Standby
Tyler LISSETTE (Waikato FC)
Tyler BOYD (Waikato FC)


I think our midfield could be a huge weakness here. What overseas players will be eligible if we qualify?
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Jeff Vader wrote:
a: Does Olympics qualify as tying him to NZ? I don't think it does. He would be in the same boat as Marco in that he would not be tied to NZ until he represented NZ in an A international.
b: If he was going to be playing for SA, considering where they sit in world football as opposed to us, he wont be getting there any time soon based on where he is playing now, how he performs and that he's not even on their age group radar. Good footballer but not good enough for SA.
c: Is he a striker or a wide man?
d: It was rumoured that at the time of U20s he was not a holder of an NZ passport and there was a rush to get it but not done in time. This would explain that.
e: He may not want to play for NZ knowing that with Marco and Kosta most certainly to come into the squad for the Olympics and playing a similar role, he would likely be dropped.
 
a: Not sure but im just assuming it counts as tying him to NZ. Suppose thats for FIFA to decide though.
b: Yes well that exactly it. I was speaking in hyperthetical terms assuming he went pro and SA apporached him. Obviously this situation is highly unlikely.
c: Id say Both. Mainly striker but cant play as a winger.
d: Im not sure about the U20s situation at all tbh. There probably is an explanation. Just the fact that he wasnt in the squad was kind of strange.
e: You wouldnt drop Ryan for Kosta or Marco. Id drop Hicks for Marco and Fenton for Kosta if i was Emblem as well as Ethan for De Vries.
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I wish it was the AWs playing this game as it's a decent national team and I'm sure Darren (Paul) White already has kiwi citizenship.
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Luis Garcia wrote:
Hard News wrote:
New Zealand Men's Olympic camp squad
February 7-10, Auckland

Goalkeepers
Scott BASALAJ (Team Wellington)
Rhyss KEANE (Green Gully, AUS)
Matt UPTON (Waitakere United)

Defenders
Sam CAMPBELL (Auckland City)
Michael EAGER (Team Wellington)
Ross HAVILAND (Waitakere United)
Mikey KRAMER (Waikato FC)
Andrew MILNE (Auckland City)
James MUSA (Team Wellington)
Tim MYERS (Waitakere United)
Tristan PRATTLEY (Otago United)
Jonathan RAJ (Team Wellington)
Luke ROWE (Team Wellington)

Midfielders
Alex FENERIDIS (Auckland City)
Jason HICKS (Waikato FC)
Cameron LINDSAY (Wellington Phoenix)
Adam MCGEORGE (Auckland City)
Daniel SARIC (Unattached)
Adam THOMAS (Waikato FC)

Forwards
Andy BEVIN (Waitakere United)
Louis FENTON (Team Wellington)
Ethan GALBRAITH (Team Wellington)
Sean LOVEMORE (Waitakere United)
Dakota LUCAS (Team Wellington)

Standby
Tyler LISSETTE (Waikato FC)
Tyler BOYD (Waikato FC)


I think our midfield could be a huge weakness here. What overseas players will be eligible if we qualify?
We don't use out midfield though.
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Fenton > De Vries.
 
I'll give you the Galbraith thing though.
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ASUS wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:
a: Does Olympics qualify as tying him to NZ? I don't think it does. He would be in the same boat as Marco in that he would not be tied to NZ until he represented NZ in an A international.
b: If he was going to be playing for SA, considering where they sit in world football as opposed to us,�he wont be getting there any time soon based on where he is playing now, how he performs�and that he's not even on their age group radar. Good footballer but not good enough for SA.

c: Is he a striker or a wide man?

d: It was rumoured that at the time of U20s he was not a holder of an NZ passport and there was a rush to get it but not done in time. This would explain that.

e: He may not want to play for NZ knowing that with Marco and Kosta most certainly to come into the squad for the Olympics and playing a similar role, he would likely be dropped.

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a: Not sure�but im just assuming it counts as tying him to NZ. Suppose thats for FIFA to decide though.


JV is right, Olympics wouldn't tie him to NZ, at this point only playing in an A international in official competition would do so.
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Fenton over De Vries, no way? Fentons had a sick season at TW dont get me wrong, hes not a better player than Ryan though.
 
Dont understand why wev got 10 defenders too. Is the backline that injury prone?
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2ndBest wrote:
Luis Garcia wrote:
Hard News wrote:
New Zealand Men's Olympic camp squad February 7-10, Auckland Goalkeepers Scott BASALAJ (Team Wellington) Rhyss KEANE (Green Gully, AUS) Matt UPTON (Waitakere United) Defenders Sam CAMPBELL (Auckland City) Michael EAGER (Team Wellington) Ross HAVILAND (Waitakere United) Mikey KRAMER (Waikato FC) Andrew MILNE (Auckland City) James MUSA (Team Wellington) Tim MYERS (Waitakere United) Tristan PRATTLEY (Otago United) Jonathan RAJ (Team Wellington) Luke ROWE (Team Wellington) Midfielders Alex FENERIDIS (Auckland City) Jason HICKS (Waikato FC) Cameron LINDSAY (Wellington Phoenix) Adam MCGEORGE (Auckland City) Daniel SARIC (Unattached) Adam THOMAS (Waikato FC) Forwards Andy BEVIN (Waitakere United) Louis FENTON (Team Wellington) Ethan GALBRAITH (Team Wellington) Sean LOVEMORE (Waitakere United) Dakota LUCAS (Team Wellington) Standby Tyler LISSETTE (Waikato FC) Tyler BOYD (Waikato FC)
I think our midfield could be a huge weakness here. What overseas players will be eligible if we qualify?


We don't use out midfield though.


But in saying that, the addition of Vicelich, Mulligan, Clapham and Peverely immediately makes it look so much better. But there's no way those four will be at the Olympics, even though it is only three players we take. So who will our three overage players be?
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Really?
 
Have you watched Clapham or Pevs this season?
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Really?
 
Have you watched Clapham or Pevs this season?
 
Obviously Ricki hasn`t
 
Surprised the following didn`t the squad to play the Arabs
 
Luke Rowe, Andy Bevin and Andrew Milne
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How is it Ricki's squad?
 
I'd missed Rowe being missing, that's a HUGE call.
 
Reports and what I've seen suggest Milne hasn't been convincing in his return but Rowe has been superb.  As for Bevan, Emblen sees him more than most and he's left him out.
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How is it Ricki's squad?

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I'd missed Rowe being missing, that's a HUGE call.

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Reports and what I've seen suggest Milne hasn't been convincing in his return but Rowe has been superb.� As for Bevan, Emblen sees him more than most and he's left him out.


Well I've heard Clapham has been doing well lately for a on form Canterbury side. Andy Bevin is a huge call. He is a class player. Luke Rowe's twitter update from last night makes a lot more sense after seeing the squad today. Have to remember Luke Rowe was named in a wider All Whites training squad not too long ago ..maybe that was before anyone had seen him play though.
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Does anyone know much about this Rhyss Keane guy?
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There was a front page article a few weeks back where he was in Aus 442 talking up a professionaly gig if they qualify.  He's been around for years, selected in an U-17 side at about 14.  Like Moss and O'Brien is an Aussie with kiwi heritage.
 
Rowe has been excellent for Team Wellington.  Significantly better than at least two of the other Team Wellington players named (albeit in different roles).  Meanwhile Pevs had to come of the bench for Canterbury at the weekend.
 
We've seen Clapham in Wellington twice this season and he has not looked like the best person in the Canterbury side, let alone one of the 4 best in the league.
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Hard News wrote:
How is it Ricki's squad?
 
I'd missed Rowe being missing, that's a HUGE call.
 
Reports and what I've seen suggest Milne hasn't been convincing in his return but Rowe has been superb.  As for Bevan, Emblen sees him more than most and he's left him out.
 
I meant Neil`s squad 
 
Article states:
New Zealand "A" side bolstered by four members of Ricki Herberts extended squad
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I agree on the Clapham and Peverley thing. Haven't been setting the league alight this year and Peverly has been rank awful.
 
It would look like Tristan Prattly has been picked over Rowe. Prattley's had a good season this year and while I've seen Rowe only once, Prattley at least deserves a crack in that environment. At the least, Rowe is somewhat of a known quantity so they can afford to give him a games break to see how Prattley goes. This is not he final squad remember
 
Bevin played 1 game at Waitak and hasn't been seen since (could be injury but no one has said - I just do not rate him) and Milne has suffered from bouncing around positions. Last year he was a striker, this year he is a defender...
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in regards to who's squad this is, emblen and herbert should be collaborating to a degree. it can be emblen's squad, but there needs to be co-ordination.

on that note, if rowe is good enough for all whites stand by, then returns to play well in the nzfc, how can he be excluded from this squad?

it means that he's gone from backup to lochhead, to backup to lochhead, hogg and milne.

i could understand this demotion if he'd been awful, but he's clearly a standout.

little evidence of collaboration or co-ordination herereg222012-02-15 17:51:05
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yeah rowe and bevin is strange.

but how often does a junior NZ team get named and your like WTF?
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Bevins class. Quality diving head at the U20s.
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Bevins class. Quality diving header at the U20s world cup
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I must admit I am shocked that Galbraith is there over Bevin. Different players I know but staggering decision. Bevin has looked a quality player for the under 20s, Galbraith without being to harsh a large donkey
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i'm guessing from the make up of that squad it's gonna be 4-4-2
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reg22 wrote:
i'm guessing from the make up of that squad it's gonna be 4-4-2

With Galbraith playing it will turn into 9-0-1
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Really?
 
Have you watched Clapham or Pevs this season?
Well, we've not had much chance to watch Clapham yet this year so far, considering he only returned to the Canty Utd line-up on Jan 22 after a five week injury lay-off.
He's scored 7 goals in 9 games so far this season- not a bad return for a midfielder.
He was named ASB Premiership "Player of the Month" for January and made the ASB "Team of the Month" for Dec.- Jan. despite only playing three games in this period (two in January)
 
Could be he's been better in home games so far this season. He's certainly been running hot at English Park, along with Darren White:
Canterbury United run riot against Manawatu
23.01.12
All White Aaron Clapham and midfielder Darren White turned on a sublime skills clinic and Russell Kamo was denied a dinkum hat-trick as Canterbury United ran riot with a record-equalling nine-goal haul.

Tony Smith - The Press

All White Aaron Clapham and midfielder Darren White turned on a sublime skills clinic and Russell Kamo was denied a dinkum hat-trick as Canterbury United ran riot with a record-equalling nine-goal haul.

The Canterbury Dragons demolished a demoralised Youngheart Manawatu 9-1 � the same scoreline Canterbury were crushed by in the 2007-08 national football premiership season by Waitakere United...

...He was left flapping at thin air as comeback king Clapham bent two Brazilian-style freekicks beyond the defensive wall, White opened his Canterbury goals account with two sizzling strikes, Kamo and Tom Schwarz nodded in free headers and defender Julyan Collett stabbed home his first national league goal.

Canterbury coach Keith Braithwaite wasn't joking when he said the Dragons had scored "some quality goals but could have had a few more".

Manawatu � who have now conceded 16 goals in two games � were poor beyond belief. But there was much to admire in Canterbury's all-out attacking display as the Dragons almost doubled their goals account from 12 to 21 and moved into third place on goal difference.

Captain Clapham was rapt with the rout and his own successful return from five weeks on the sideline with a foot injury.

http://www.nzfc.co.nz/index.php?id=1671

Braithwaite: Waikato win better than record

 

 

 

 

by Bruce Holloway at Porritt Stadium

Canterbury United�s 3-0 win over Waikato FC represented a better team performance than their ASB Premiership record-equalling 9-1 thumping of Manawatu a week earlier.

That�s the view of Dragons coach Keith Braithwaite after a convincing victory at Porritt Stadium, where his team was always in command following an early goal to Russell Kamo.

By contrast it was a lacklustre, disjointed showing by Waikato, in which they failed to reproduce the form of a week earlier.

Braithwaite was delighted.

"It was a performance we could be proud of, with three very, very good goals," he said. "I thought our lads were on their game today from start to finish.

"We pressured the Waikato boys and punished them when we got the chances."

Kamo potted two goal in the first 25 minutes, with a lively front-running performance.

Darren White supplied a pinpoint cross for the first from which he was able to steer the ball home from about six metres.

The second came from the other flank and was better. Kamo received a square ball outside the area, turned through 180 degrees and slid it into the far corner.

And the win was sealed in the 79th minute with a stunner from Canterbury skipper Aaron Clapham. The ball fell to him from a defensive clearance marginally to the left of goal and outside the area, and he executed a brutal volley which flew over Waikato keeper Mark Fulcher and into the net.

"You would go a long way to see a better goal," Braithwaite said.

Waikato coach Declan Edge gave an alternate perspective.

"I thought we were just starting to claw our way back into the game and some guy has popped up and hit something out of the sky."

But Edge has more fundamental worries than the odd thunderbolt goal.

Overall this was a poor Waikato showing which only served to underline that for all the feelgood factor of their previous 3-match unbeaten run, they have still only scored seven goals this season.

There was no flow to their play, and they were unable to impose themselves in the attacking third, where too often they were muscled off the ball or lost possession before mustering a shot.

While Canterbury carved a host of openings, a desperate first half diving header from Ryan Thomas was the closest thing to a genuine scoring opportunity for Waikato...

Tom Schwartz was strong at the back for Canterbury, while Braithwaite also rated highly the efforts of new English signing Daniel Glozier, who was on debut in taking time out from a world trip.

"He did exceptionally well, as did Russell Kamo and Aaron Clapham."

Play by Play

5 min

Canterbury dominating. Clapham , Slefendorfas prominent.

7 min

GOAL. Darren White crosses from right and Russell Kamo gets on the end of it to slide the ball home from about 6 metres.

Half time. A solid half from Canterbury, who have looked very dangerous going forward. Impressed with Kamo and White for the visitors.
 

79 min

GOAL. Out of nothing the ball falls to CLAPHAM and he spectacularly volleys with his right foot over Fulcher and into the net from outside the area.

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reg22 wrote:
what did rowe tweet?


@luke_rowe16
always hear about people geting told their not good enough and then going on and making a name for them self hope im one of them #selfbelief
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Big Pete 65 wrote:


Hard News wrote:
Really?
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Have you watched Clapham or Pevs this season?
Well, we've not had much chance to watch Clapham yet this year so far, considering he only returned to the Canty Utd line-up on Jan 22 after a five week injury lay-off.
He's scored 7 goals in 9 games so far this season- not a bad return for a midfielder.
He was named ASB Premiership "Player of the Month" for January and made the ASB "Team of the Month" for Dec.- Jan. despite only playing three games in this period (two in January)
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Could be he's been better in home games so far this season. He's certainly been running hot at English Park, along with Darren White:


No game against Manawatu this season should be used as a measuring stick for any player.

Hard News would look like a potential All White if he played against them.
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He and Peverely were completely invisible against TW.
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I was passing North Harbour Stadium last week when the U23`s were training and had a nosy for a while
They were playing an inhouse game. What looked like the main selection lined up like this
 
                                                                  Keane
                                      Thomas       Eager        Musa      Prattley
                                                                   Hicks
                                             McGeorge                          Feneridis
                                                                 Lindsay
                                                         Galbraith   Lucas
 
Interesting to see how high up Lindsay was playing
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Luis Garcia wrote:
reg22 wrote:
what did rowe tweet?


@luke_rowe16
always hear about people geting told their not good enough and then going on and making a name for them self hope im one of them #selfbelief


heck.  i'm sure he will.  si elliott never played for an age group nz side
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daniel saric, played two seasons for a belgium club KRC Genk.top player.


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