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NZ 5th place Play Off Home Game
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Where is this game to be played.
We must make an early point that this game must be played at the ROF
Auckland must not get this game! uncle take note!
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The game is still over a year away, doubt that the decision will be rushed into.
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a year away, heaps of time for us to make some noise and get it at the RoF, where it belongs - the home of football!
Queenslander 3x a year.
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the return game could be in Baghdad- or there proxy home in Dubai
Salmon swim upstream
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The sooner we make noise about it the more they will think about it!
I know NZ football, they wont even think about it the will just plan it to be in Auckland and say to bad!
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Fair enough. The best way to make them listen is to ensure the Nix games are well attended.
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I think we've already proven that the support for football lies here! compare the crowd at the AW v New caledonia game to our v ccm, I'll puit money on the fact that we'll double the crowd!
Queenslander 3x a year.
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Yeah, but NZF will surely have in mind the crowd they got at RoF for the game against Vanuatu. And that was not good.
Combine it with the fact that RoF will cost them a lot more than NH stadium, and they'll need some convincing that RoF should be the venue. But if we keep turning up for the Nix, even now when things aren't going too well, will make them take notice.
By the way, regarding the comment comparing the crowds on Wed against NC and Sun against CCM - what happens if there's 10,000 at NHS (cheaper tickets, football fans up there starved of football, etc), and we only get 4-5k, given the way things have been going so far?
Combine it with the fact that RoF will cost them a lot more than NH stadium, and they'll need some convincing that RoF should be the venue. But if we keep turning up for the Nix, even now when things aren't going too well, will make them take notice.
By the way, regarding the comment comparing the crowds on Wed against NC and Sun against CCM - what happens if there's 10,000 at NHS (cheaper tickets, football fans up there starved of football, etc), and we only get 4-5k, given the way things have been going so far?
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We blame it on the population difference.
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Yea, but then NZF have an excuse to take all the AW games to Auckland...bigger population base, cheaper stadium = cheaper tickets, bad for us.
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Iraq is out already.
oops, much like the US in the 80s and 90s i got my iraq and irans mixed up-lucky im not an arms dealer
Salmon swim upstream
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Yea, but then NZF have an excuse to take all the AW games to Auckland...bigger population base, cheaper stadium = cheaper tickets, bad for us.
NZFC have got to come to the party on this one, they know that the footballing support right now is driven from Wellington. If they don't bring the game here then as you say they won't ever, which means when the big game sfinally come they'll still get 10k at North Harbour instead of 20k+ at RoF.......
Queenslander 3x a year.
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Yeah but imagine how awesome it would be if all of us made a pilgrimage to Albany! It would be pretty huge, and a pretty good roadie i reckon
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Yea, but then NZF have an excuse to take all the AW games to Auckland...bigger population base, cheaper stadium = cheaper tickets, bad for us.
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NZFC have got to come to the party on this one, they know that the footballing support right now is driven from Wellington. If they don't bring the game here then as you say they won't ever, which means when the big game sfinally come they'll still get 10k at North� Harbour instead of 20k+ at RoF.......
That's what I'm saying. But NZF will only come to the party if we genuinely demonstrate that Welly is the hotbed of football in this country.
That's why I think the next few months will be crucial, if we can keep up the numbers at RoF even if the Nix aren't going great, they'll have something to think abput.
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Would be better if the nix started going great AND we kept up the numbers.
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If the Nix started going well, then I'd hope the numbers would increase on what we had last season.
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NZ Football offers World Cup playoff to Auckland
September 8, 2008
AUCKLAND � New Zealand Football Chairman Frank van Hattum says Wednesday night�s All White return match against New Caledonia at North Harbour Stadium is the perfect opportunity for Auckland to stake a claim to host next year�s high-profile World Cup playoff.
New Zealand�s 3-1 victory in Saturday�s away leg in Noumea wrapped up the Oceania Nations Cup title with two games to spare and with it a home-and-away playoff with Asia�s fifth ranked team late next year for a place among the 32 teams lining up in South Africa for the 2010 FIFA World Cup.
�First and foremost it�s a chance to celebrate the team�s success and see a full strength side playing at home,� van Hattum said.
�It�s been two years since the team played in Auckland and four years before that so it�s a rare chance, for kids especially, to see their heroes from overseas and the Phoenix in New Zealand colours.�
�The team are in good form and want to share their success, and a decent crowd can only spur them on.�
�With tickets at just 15 bucks a pop the stage is set for a positive response from the footballing public.�
With the venue for the home leg of next year�s World Cup playoff yet to be decided, New Zealand Football were also dangling the carrot of that honour in front of the Queen City�s football fans.
�The location of that playoff is still very much up for grabs. There�s lot of discussion to be had with the various contenders but a strong turnout from New Zealand�s biggest city just may seal the deal.�
�We saw with Australia�s home match against Uruguay in 2005, and Iran four years earlier that these playoffs can be epic encounters, and with so much at stake that�s what you�d expect.�
�The ten teams left in Asia are all high-quality, and the chance of landing a plum tie against a team like Japan, South Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia or Australia is a real possibility.�
The match between New Zealand and New Caledonia kicks off at North Harbour Stadium at 7.35pm and with a large walk-up component to the crowd expected fans are advised to arrive early to avoid queuing delays.
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"still very much up for grabs" yet "a strong turnout ... just may seal the deal"
hmmmmmm
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Yeah, but NZF will surely have in mind the crowd they got at RoF for the game against Vanuatu. And that was not good. .....
the 'marketing' of that game was truly abysmal!
and we hadn't had the carrot of a world cup playoff dangled in front of us
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Yeah theyve set it up well for auckland...kind of odd
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Location is probably not the real key as long as there is good organisation for the setting of the venue and date. I think that it should be better for us to play away first for a draw and then get the return game as the second leg of the playooff. Then the crowd will come with numbers for sure.
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I dont think they play off for world cup game will be in auckland.
north harbour being what lik 25,000.
But there is a possibility of Mt.Smart getting it because they want to put temporary seating for that galaxy game making it 40,000( i dont know how the bloody 'el they gonna do that but they said they are)
Which basically takes Westpac Stadium out of the fold with around about 35-39,000??
But there is a possibility of Mt.Smart getting it because they want to put temporary seating for that galaxy game making it 40,000( i dont know how the bloody 'el they gonna do that but they said they are)
Which basically takes Westpac Stadium out of the fold with around about 35-39,000??
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Last time we played Australia in a match like that we got under 10k at Ericsson... 40,000 Aucklanders to watch the NZ national side play ? Highly Unlikely.
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It has to be in Wellington, we will be ripped of as football supporters should the game be given to Auckland.
Will Auckland organised a group of core suppoters like the White Noise... I think not.
Stadium should give something back to football in wgtn and give NZ football cheap rental for the play off game.
Either way...it will be a kick in the balls if Auckland get the game.
I say tackle him in the face.
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Will Auckland organised a group of core suppoters like the White Noise... I think not.
To the left... since 1999.
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We once had 300....
Three for me, and two for them.
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..or more.
200 man Conga line around the North at Mt Smart.
200 man Conga line around the North at Mt Smart.
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Whilst I would personally go for Wellington, for a variety of reasons, does anyone think that maybe Christchurch (just for argument's sake) would be a good place to hold the game? Could the QEII prove a good venue for such a game? As I remember, the All Whites got a decent crowd when they played Malaysia down there a couple of years back...
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Personally I don't think you guys are ambitious enough - play it at Eden Park (or is that not an option because of redevelopment?). This is a world cup playoff, Australia have never had a problem selling tickets for this game - even 10 years ago, when Australian football was not going at all well, 90,000 packed into the MCG for this match.
Wherever it is in NZ, any NZ football fan should be there - don't forget that there could be a significant number of away fans as well (expect at least 10k if Australia is the away team, similar numbers if it's Japan or Korea)
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Guess it depends how well we do on the first leg. If people think we have a real shot at making the world cup in that game,theyll jump on the bandwagon and be there.
If we lose 3-0 in the first away leg,we wont even hit 10k.
Be interesting what the crowd figure would be if we hosted the first leg,then it would depend on opposition perhaps...if we're playing a country most of the sporting public havent heard of...then no one...biggest sellout in this situation would be vs australia obviously
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It has to be in Wellington, we will be ripped of as football supporters should the game be given to Auckland.
What? 1 season of support and falling numbers to Team Wellington games, you are kidding are'nt you.
White noise wasnt very big, as HN said, the Bloc's been around much longer, was much more organised and had some great chant writers, sorry but apart from numbers they are way better than Yellow Fever.
The game's got to be played in Auckland, start saving your penny's to get there.
A dog with a bone :)
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What? 1 season of support and falling numbers to Team Wellington games, you are kidding are'nt you.
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Wellington now has a professional franchise that serves as much superior competition to our NZFC team. Naturally crowd numbers will be getting lower. Same reason why the Lions crowds can't match the Hurricanes.
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Wellington now has a professional franchise that serves as much superior competition to our NZFC team. Naturally crowd numbers will be getting lower. Same reason why the Lions crowds can't match the Hurricanes.
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White noise wasnt very big, as HN said, the Bloc's been around much longer, was much more organised and had some great chant writers, sorry but apart from numbers they are way better than Yellow Fever.
Perhaps, but NZF will want quantity, not quality. I can't say who is better - I supported the Wolves in the NSL and never cared about the A-League until Wellington got a team. I have no real experience of Bloc 5, and I hope to remedy that on Wednesday.
But regardless as to who is better - Yellow Fever is only thousands strong. Bloc 5 is smaller. Put the two together in one stadium regardless of where it is and it still won't pay the bills. NZF needs bums in seats, and that means appealing to the general punter - something NZF completely failed to do for the Vanuatu.
The poor crowd in Wellington is not the fault of Wellington, nor Yellow Fever, nor White Noise:
- Held on a Wednesday - nobody's fault
- Unrealistic ticket prices considering the lack of a drawcard Vanuatu is (NZF's fault on ticket prices, nobodys fault on Vanuatu not being a drawcard)
- No public marketing whatsoever. No posters, nothing on TV, nothing on Adshel's, nothing in newspapers - purely word of mouth on this very site. The average punter had no idea the game existed.
As far as I'm concerned, NZF has nobody but itself to blame for Wellington's poor attendance. If they use it as an excuse to put it in Auckland, a city that can't draw 10k to play Australia (as mentioned earlier by News), a city that (apart from Bloc 5 and IIRC early Kingz seasons) provided laughable attendances to their own professional, I will be pissed.
If Auckland (or even Christchurch or anywhere) gets the game, I hope it is due to its own merits. If NZF can genuinely sell more tickets to the playoff in Auckland than they could in Wellingon, I'll agree with them. But I won't if they justify it by blaming Wellington for their own fustercluck.
(And I'm originally from Australia, so it's bad enough me supporting the All Whites in the first place
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...was much more organised...
That's not true.
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TBH you can't compare them. Different dynamics completely. The Bloc thrived through thick and thin on one man (well one and his brother) and his ability and willingness to just keep things going for 90 minutes from start to finish no matter if there are 5 with him (Auckland City) or 500 - Kingz season 2.
As far as I'm concerned neither is better or worse, and comparisons are tiresome.... and I'll happily police that view with unjustified use of my Moderator powers.
As far as I'm concerned neither is better or worse, and comparisons are tiresome.... and I'll happily police that view with unjustified use of my Moderator powers.
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TBH you can't compare them. Different dynamics completely. The Bloc thrived through thick and thin on one man (well one and his brother) and his ability and willingness to just keep things going for 90 minutes from start to finish no matter if there are 5 with him (Auckland City) or 500 - Kingz season 2.
As far as I'm concerned neither is better or worse, and comparisons are tiresome.... and I'll happily police that view with unjustified use of my Moderator powers.
As far as I'm concerned neither is better or worse, and comparisons are tiresome.... and I'll happily police that view with unjustified use of my Moderator powers.
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I admire the support for New Zealand Football present here; however I do not have any admiration for the self righteous attitudes present on here.
Good on you guys for supporting the Phoenix week in and week out, if I lived in Wellington I'd be right alongside you every week.I don't feel you've earned the right to deprive the rest of the nation of any meaningful football fixtures. As has been said before, for these fixtures to be succesful (and the Nix ultimately) Football needs to appeal to the general public as opposed to just us hard cores.
With domestic airfares being at what seems an all time low due to this three way price war, it's not too much for me to say I'll be at this playoff game no matter which NZ city hosts it (I've even booked flights to see the Phoenix on the 28th of Nov)
Surely you guys can hitch a ride on your high horses to the airport for one playoff game?
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To be honest I think auckland will drop the ball themselves with lack of support on wed . Wellington will get that WC playoff qualifier i reakon and so they should
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