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The New Zealand Olympic Committee has named the men and women who will be the first football players to represent New Zealand at an Olympic Games.
Both 18-player squads are will benefit from the availability of key players for the August 6-23 tournaments.
Barry Maister, New Zealand Olympic selector, is delighted to have the squads named and will look forward to honouring New Zealand's first Football Olympians. �With the naming of two big squads today, the New Zealand Olympic Team to Beijing 2008 now stands at 163 athletes, he said. �With some squads as yet unnamed and qualification tournaments still to be contested, New Zealand is expecting its largest team Olympic Team ever.�
The Fooball Ferns (Senior Women)
After ending a 16-year absence from the world stage at the 2007 FIFA Women�s World Cup, the Football Ferns return to China with their strongest squad in John Herdman�s two-year tenure as head coach.
Goalscoring midfielder Kirsty Yallop � who missed the World Cup through injury but played a major part in World Cup and Olympic qualifying on either side � gets her chance to foot it against the world�s best, while fullback Marlies Oostdam and striker Rebecca Tegg have both recovered from ACL injuries that have kept them out of international football since the World Cup.
The Peace Queen Cup in June saw the return of Sweden-based World Cup defender Rebecca Smith (from injury) and former Arsenal striker Amber Hearn (from a three-year break from the sport). Strong team performances at that tournament included a 1-0 win over South American champions Argentina.
�It�s exciting going into an Olympic Games knowing that all 18 players bring something different and that they can all make a significant impact to the team performance in their own unique way.� Herdman said.
�We�ve got players coming back from injury at the right time with Oostdam and Tegg back in for the first time since the World Cup and Rebecca Smith coming back on board at the Peace Queen Cup.
Five teenagers in the squad and an average age of just 22 give the Football Ferns a youthful look, although Kristy Hill�s selection is a belated present for her 29th birthday on Tuesday and reward for a fine debut in Korea less than a month ago.
With football beginning two days before the Olympic opening ceremony, the Football Ferns will be New Zealand�s first Olympians in action when they meet Japan in Qinhuangdao on August 6, and Herdman and his team were relishing the opportunity to kickstart New Zealand�s involvement.
�It�s all special � the whole mantle of being an Olympian. We know what it means to New Zealanders to be at the Olympics, and to be the first team in the first event makes it even more special,� Herdman said.
�To have the chance to get off to a good start by getting a win against Japan and maybe inspiring the rest of the Olympic team is extra motivation.
�The Peace Queen Cup added a bit of realism to that prospect. We�ve taken some key steps over the past nine months towards consistently performing in a way that will lead to results against top teams.�
The Football Ferns finish pool play with matches against world number five Norway on August 9 world number one USA on August 12.
Oly-Whites (U-23 Men)
Oly-Whites coach Stu Jacobs says the inclusion of senior All Whites Chris Killen, Simon Elliot and Ryan Nelson could be the boost his side need to progress into quarterfinals.
A full quota of three over-age players adds experience to an otherwise U-23 squad with many graduating from Jacobs� 2007 U-20 World Cup squad.
�The focus for us from day one has been getting the over-age players we wanted and I guess by getting them we�ve got a big piece of the jigsaw in place,� Jacobs said.
�All the U-23 lads have put themselves in the frame while in camp and it�s been the hardest decision I�ve had to make, but we�ve got the best possible blend.�
All Whites Steven Old, Jeremy Brockie, and Daniel Ellensohn take the total of senior internationals in the squad to six while former Wellington Phoenix goalkeeper Jacob Spoonley has been part of All Whites World Cup qualifying campaign although is yet to win his first senior cap.
The New Zealand Football Championship supplies the bulk of the side although Michael Boxall, Cole Tinkler, Jack Pelter, and Craig Henderson all have experience of fulltime professional or collegiate environments overseas.
�It�s a good mix,� Jacobs said, �but the thing that stands out is how desperate they all were to get to Beijing and now that we�re on our way, how keen they are to go up a level.�
Despite a tough group that feature Olympic hosts China, Gold Medal favourites Brazil and European darkhorses Belgium, Jacobs indicated a growing confidence within his side.
�We�ve got a hell of a chance.�
�We don�t know what we�re up against but we have to back ourselves against China and Belgium. If we start well and get a result in that first match we can create excitement and momentum.
�We�ve got kids who can turn hope into will and three senior players who can really instil that.�
New Zealand Olympic Football Squads.
Football Ferns (Senior Women):
Name (Club � age � caps/goals)
Goalkeepers:
Jenny Bindon (Waitakere City FC � 35 � 23/0)
Rachel Howard (TSV Crailsheim � 30 � 14/0)
Defenders:
Anna Green (Three Kings United � 17 � 8/1)
Abby Erceg (Western Springs � 18 � 24/2)
Kristy Hill (Three Kings United � 29 � 2/0)
Marlies Oostdam (Eastern Suburbs � 30 � 24/0)
Ria Percival (FC Indiana � 18 � 24/2)
Rebecca Smith (Sunnana SK � 27 � 27/2)
Midfielders:
Katie Hoyle (Lynn Avon United � 20 � 12/0)
Emily McColl (Cocoa Expos/Coastal Carolina University � 22 � 17/0),
Hayley Moorwood (Lynn Avon United � 24 � 32/3),
Ali Riley (Stanford University � 20 � 19/0)
Kirsty Yallop (Lynn Avon United � 21 � 16/5)
Forwards:
Amber Hearn (Lynn Avon United � 23 � 9/1)
Emma Kete (Lynn Avon United � 20 � 11/2)
Renee Leota (Western Springs FC � 18 � 10/1)
Merissa Smith (Three Kings United � 17 � 15/1)
Rebecca Tegg (Eastern Suburbs � 22 � 5/0)
Management: John Herdman (Head Coach), Tony Readings (Assistant coach/ Technical Analyst), Julie Hogg (Manager), Simon Eaddy (Goalkeeping Coach), Helen Tunstall (Sports Scientist), Alysha Blackwell (Physiotherapist), Mark Fulcher (Doctor).
Oly-Whites (U-23 Men)
Name (Club � age) * indicates over-age player
Goalkeepers:
Liam Little (Caversham AFC/Otago United - 21)
Jacob Spoonley (Miramar Rangers - 21)
Defenders:
Michael Boxall (Santa Barbara University - 19)
Ian Hogg (Western Suburbs/Hawke�s Bay United - 18)
Sam Jenkins (Western Suburbs/Hawke�s Bay United - 21)
Ryan Nelsen* (Blackburn Rovers - 20)
Steven Old (Macarthur Rams - 22)
Jack Pelter (Unattached - 20)
Aaron Scott (Melville/ Waikato FC -21)
Cole Tinkler (Miramar Rangers/Team Wellington - 22)
Midfield:
Jeremy Brockie (Miramar Rangers/Hawke�s Bay United - 20)
Simon Elliott* (Unattached - 34)
Craig Henderson (Dartmouth College - 21)
Cole Peverley (Stop Out FC/Hawke�s Bay United - 20)
Shaun van Rooyen (Western Suburbs/Waikato FC - 21)
Forwards:
Daniel Ellensohn (Western Suburbs/Team Wellington - 23)
Chris Killen* (Celtic FC - 27)
Sam Messam (Napier City Rovers/Hawke�s Bay United - 22),
Management: Stu Jacobs (Head Coach), Jonathan Gould (Assistant Coach/Goalkeeper coach), Jim Hogg (Manager), Andy Foskett (Sports Science), Justin Lopes (Physiotherapist), Andy Smith (Trainer), Jake Pearson (Doctor).
</>Both 18-player squads are will benefit from the availability of key players for the August 6-23 tournaments.
Barry Maister, New Zealand Olympic selector, is delighted to have the squads named and will look forward to honouring New Zealand's first Football Olympians. �With the naming of two big squads today, the New Zealand Olympic Team to Beijing 2008 now stands at 163 athletes, he said. �With some squads as yet unnamed and qualification tournaments still to be contested, New Zealand is expecting its largest team Olympic Team ever.�
The Fooball Ferns (Senior Women)
After ending a 16-year absence from the world stage at the 2007 FIFA Women�s World Cup, the Football Ferns return to China with their strongest squad in John Herdman�s two-year tenure as head coach.
Goalscoring midfielder Kirsty Yallop � who missed the World Cup through injury but played a major part in World Cup and Olympic qualifying on either side � gets her chance to foot it against the world�s best, while fullback Marlies Oostdam and striker Rebecca Tegg have both recovered from ACL injuries that have kept them out of international football since the World Cup.
The Peace Queen Cup in June saw the return of Sweden-based World Cup defender Rebecca Smith (from injury) and former Arsenal striker Amber Hearn (from a three-year break from the sport). Strong team performances at that tournament included a 1-0 win over South American champions Argentina.
�It�s exciting going into an Olympic Games knowing that all 18 players bring something different and that they can all make a significant impact to the team performance in their own unique way.� Herdman said.
�We�ve got players coming back from injury at the right time with Oostdam and Tegg back in for the first time since the World Cup and Rebecca Smith coming back on board at the Peace Queen Cup.
Five teenagers in the squad and an average age of just 22 give the Football Ferns a youthful look, although Kristy Hill�s selection is a belated present for her 29th birthday on Tuesday and reward for a fine debut in Korea less than a month ago.
With football beginning two days before the Olympic opening ceremony, the Football Ferns will be New Zealand�s first Olympians in action when they meet Japan in Qinhuangdao on August 6, and Herdman and his team were relishing the opportunity to kickstart New Zealand�s involvement.
�It�s all special � the whole mantle of being an Olympian. We know what it means to New Zealanders to be at the Olympics, and to be the first team in the first event makes it even more special,� Herdman said.
�To have the chance to get off to a good start by getting a win against Japan and maybe inspiring the rest of the Olympic team is extra motivation.
�The Peace Queen Cup added a bit of realism to that prospect. We�ve taken some key steps over the past nine months towards consistently performing in a way that will lead to results against top teams.�
The Football Ferns finish pool play with matches against world number five Norway on August 9 world number one USA on August 12.
Oly-Whites (U-23 Men)
Oly-Whites coach Stu Jacobs says the inclusion of senior All Whites Chris Killen, Simon Elliot and Ryan Nelson could be the boost his side need to progress into quarterfinals.
A full quota of three over-age players adds experience to an otherwise U-23 squad with many graduating from Jacobs� 2007 U-20 World Cup squad.
�The focus for us from day one has been getting the over-age players we wanted and I guess by getting them we�ve got a big piece of the jigsaw in place,� Jacobs said.
�All the U-23 lads have put themselves in the frame while in camp and it�s been the hardest decision I�ve had to make, but we�ve got the best possible blend.�
All Whites Steven Old, Jeremy Brockie, and Daniel Ellensohn take the total of senior internationals in the squad to six while former Wellington Phoenix goalkeeper Jacob Spoonley has been part of All Whites World Cup qualifying campaign although is yet to win his first senior cap.
The New Zealand Football Championship supplies the bulk of the side although Michael Boxall, Cole Tinkler, Jack Pelter, and Craig Henderson all have experience of fulltime professional or collegiate environments overseas.
�It�s a good mix,� Jacobs said, �but the thing that stands out is how desperate they all were to get to Beijing and now that we�re on our way, how keen they are to go up a level.�
Despite a tough group that feature Olympic hosts China, Gold Medal favourites Brazil and European darkhorses Belgium, Jacobs indicated a growing confidence within his side.
�We�ve got a hell of a chance.�
�We don�t know what we�re up against but we have to back ourselves against China and Belgium. If we start well and get a result in that first match we can create excitement and momentum.
�We�ve got kids who can turn hope into will and three senior players who can really instil that.�
New Zealand Olympic Football Squads.
Football Ferns (Senior Women):
Name (Club � age � caps/goals)
Goalkeepers:
Jenny Bindon (Waitakere City FC � 35 � 23/0)
Rachel Howard (TSV Crailsheim � 30 � 14/0)
Defenders:
Anna Green (Three Kings United � 17 � 8/1)
Abby Erceg (Western Springs � 18 � 24/2)
Kristy Hill (Three Kings United � 29 � 2/0)
Marlies Oostdam (Eastern Suburbs � 30 � 24/0)
Ria Percival (FC Indiana � 18 � 24/2)
Rebecca Smith (Sunnana SK � 27 � 27/2)
Midfielders:
Katie Hoyle (Lynn Avon United � 20 � 12/0)
Emily McColl (Cocoa Expos/Coastal Carolina University � 22 � 17/0),
Hayley Moorwood (Lynn Avon United � 24 � 32/3),
Ali Riley (Stanford University � 20 � 19/0)
Kirsty Yallop (Lynn Avon United � 21 � 16/5)
Forwards:
Amber Hearn (Lynn Avon United � 23 � 9/1)
Emma Kete (Lynn Avon United � 20 � 11/2)
Renee Leota (Western Springs FC � 18 � 10/1)
Merissa Smith (Three Kings United � 17 � 15/1)
Rebecca Tegg (Eastern Suburbs � 22 � 5/0)
Management: John Herdman (Head Coach), Tony Readings (Assistant coach/ Technical Analyst), Julie Hogg (Manager), Simon Eaddy (Goalkeeping Coach), Helen Tunstall (Sports Scientist), Alysha Blackwell (Physiotherapist), Mark Fulcher (Doctor).
Oly-Whites (U-23 Men)
Name (Club � age) * indicates over-age player
Goalkeepers:
Liam Little (Caversham AFC/Otago United - 21)
Jacob Spoonley (Miramar Rangers - 21)
Defenders:
Michael Boxall (Santa Barbara University - 19)
Ian Hogg (Western Suburbs/Hawke�s Bay United - 18)
Sam Jenkins (Western Suburbs/Hawke�s Bay United - 21)
Ryan Nelsen* (Blackburn Rovers - 20)
Steven Old (Macarthur Rams - 22)
Jack Pelter (Unattached - 20)
Aaron Scott (Melville/ Waikato FC -21)
Cole Tinkler (Miramar Rangers/Team Wellington - 22)
Midfield:
Jeremy Brockie (Miramar Rangers/Hawke�s Bay United - 20)
Simon Elliott* (Unattached - 34)
Craig Henderson (Dartmouth College - 21)
Cole Peverley (Stop Out FC/Hawke�s Bay United - 20)
Shaun van Rooyen (Western Suburbs/Waikato FC - 21)
Forwards:
Daniel Ellensohn (Western Suburbs/Team Wellington - 23)
Chris Killen* (Celtic FC - 27)
Sam Messam (Napier City Rovers/Hawke�s Bay United - 22),
Management: Stu Jacobs (Head Coach), Jonathan Gould (Assistant Coach/Goalkeeper coach), Jim Hogg (Manager), Andy Foskett (Sports Science), Justin Lopes (Physiotherapist), Andy Smith (Trainer), Jake Pearson (Doctor).
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So Nelsen is 20 and the Phoenix boys aren't going.
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I've decided to become an Unattached fan. So many of our kiwi players seem to play for them that it would be remiss of me to ignore them any longer.
I look forward to chanting "one nil, to the Unattached, one nil, to the Unattached, one nil, to the Unattached, one nil, to the Unattached........... one nil, to the Unattached..."
I'm heading out of here now to go to www.subsidesports.com and to search for "Unattached" shirts. Ideally they'll have an xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxl available.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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So Nelsen is 20 and the Phoenix boys aren't going.
Yes, but fear no longer, dear friend. Ian Hogg is there, which is just as well for his dad.
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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So Nelsen is 20 and the Phoenix boys aren't going.
Yes, but fear no longer, dear friend. Ian Hogg is there, which is just as well for his dad.
Christ, I've just noticed, his mum's going with the ladies team too. Nice of NZF to keep things all tidy....
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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No Stuart though... so that's good news.
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I'd've thought the days of "jobs for the boys" were well and truly over in our apparently transparent modern society. But no, not at NZF.
Makes ya sick really. No wonder other sports laugh at us....
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Who else missed out from the original mix... Fowler, Draper, Barb, Mathews??
I seriously thought Hogg was only in the U20s mix, not U23s... Wow.
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Anyone think this is Jacobs giving the Phoenix the two fingered salute by not taking Costa and Draper?
Peoples Republik of Aucklandia
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shows costa isnt as good as everyone on this forum belives.
edit - in saying that hes young ill give him time. defiently not starting a-league quality.
bobboltontawa22008-07-03 15:01:21
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shows coasta isnt as good as everyone on this forum belives.[/QUOTE]
Everyone ?
Generalisations again Simon.
[QUOTE=PROAK]Anyone think this is Jacobs giving the Phoenix the two fingered salute by not taking Costa and Draper?
Everyone ?
Generalisations again Simon.
[QUOTE=PROAK]Anyone think this is Jacobs giving the Phoenix the two fingered salute by not taking Costa and Draper?
Don't think so, suspect he see's his other options as bigger and stronger and more prepared for the oppositions they will meet.
Hard News2008-07-03 15:02:17
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Is anyone else going to be embarrased to see Messam representing our country at the Olympics. The worlds gonna laugh at us.
Hes the next Eric the Eel. I guess thats what the Olympics is about, giving the spastics a chance against the best.
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We'll clean up in the lineouts though. Old, Boxall, Messam, Liam Little.
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Oh come on, doesn't anyone else have sh*t to kick up over the whole Hogg situation?
Nix, Leyton Orient and Alloa Athletic supporting schmuck.
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Maybe hes actually entering in the Hammer throw. If thats the case Im stoked, hes bound to get a medal there.
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Oh come on, doesn't anyone else have sh*t to kick up over the whole Hogg situation?
who knows what goes on in the circus they call ole soccer acadamy.
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Anyone think this is Jacobs giving the Phoenix the two fingered salute by not taking Costa and Draper?
Stu Jacobs isn't stupid enough to cut off his nose to spite his face.
But it does highlight how over-protective and unsupportive the Phoenix were being when they refused to release Smeltz and Lochead. Their claim that they could lose up to five players to the Olympics was never likely to eventuate when you actually looked at the possibilities.
So in the end the Phoenix are supplying exactly zero players to the NZ Olympic team (and most likely one to the Aussies). I guess everybody should be happy with that result - especially the "club before country" brigade.
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A lot of the people who have commented on this forum so far appear to have a severe case of "Tall Poppy" syndrome. What a shame that so many people feel the need to undermine other people's achievements.
I will be supporting the Oly-Whites regardless of who is or isn't in the team. It's about time NZ soccer fans stop criticising and start getting behind their teams. As Jacob mentioned in his latest "Spoonley Speaks" forum, the boys will raise their game even more if they are backed by the NZ public.
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Im sure everyone wants them to do well and will support them. But I cannot be pleased that a bad player is going when there is obviously more talented ones left behind.
Eric the Eel!
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A lot of the people who have commented on this forum so far appear to have a severe case of "Tall Poppy" syndrome. What a shame that so many people feel the need to undermine other people's achievements.
I will be supporting the Oly-Whites regardless of who is or isn't in the team. It's about time NZ soccer fans stop criticising and start getting behind their teams. As Jacob mentioned in his latest "Spoonley Speaks" forum, the boys will raise their game even more if they are backed by the NZ public.
I can see a pig flying past my window... (but yeah, it would be nice - one thing that it seems hasn't changed since I've left, and thats sport in general, not just football - we could learn a bit from the Ockers in that respect).
E + R + O
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criticizing comes with the territory, unlike the aussie cricket team we cant win a bloody thing in new zealand soccer so we have a reason to bitch, moan and criticize
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criticizing comes with the territory, unlike the aussie cricket team we cant win a bloody thing in new zealand soccer so we have a reason to bitch, moan and criticize
I was generalising... not just referring to the sports they're good at... (well, better lol). They have a much more positive attitude across the board (yes, of course there are exceptions) than do we... kind of like their society becoming Americanised whilst we've tended to stay more Colonial... yes - generalisations indeed, but true nonetheless... lets 'ave it then!!!
E + R + O
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Bit of a shame to not see costa in the squad but I'm sure Stu has his reasons (not including hatred toward the nix), but I'm fully behind any NZ football team regardless
You know we belong together...
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I guess one way to look at Costa's exclusion from the squad is that he was far from impressive at the U17 World Cup, which was just under a year ago. The question is, has he improved enough physically and mentally since then to warrant an inclusion in the side which will be competing at a higher level?
Stu Jacobs' answer seems to be no, and I'd trust his professional judgement.
Stu Jacobs' answer seems to be no, and I'd trust his professional judgement.
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'The Jam' seems to have something against the hogg family...whats wrong with a good soccer family..i dont know them from a bar of soap but im sure the young lads parents possibly both played for their country..interesting to see what is upsetting you 'The Jam'
also stil cant see how messam has made it over a barboruses or a draper who have pro contracts?
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i think they just want mess in their to distract other teams with his massive chest. seriously, he was a skinny f**ker not that long ago
www.kiwifromthecouch.blogspot.com
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i think they just want mess in their to distract other teams with his massive chest. seriously, he was a skinny f**ker not that long ago
"p" does funny things to people. dont do drugs kids.
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A lot of the people who have commented on this forum so far appear to have a severe case of "Tall Poppy" syndrome. What a shame that so many people feel the need to undermine other people's achievements.
I will be supporting the Oly-Whites regardless of who is or isn't in the team. It's about time NZ soccer fans stop criticising and start getting behind their teams. As Jacob mentioned in his latest "Spoonley Speaks" forum, the boys will raise their game even more if they are backed by the NZ public.
My god, its taken about 10 months and we finally get the tall poppy accusation. People are allowed to be critical so long as they back up their argument. We've weeded out the "he's cr@p, well no I haven't seen him play for 5 years but my mate told me so" brigade but criticism is inherent in sport. Bitching and moaning is a different story bobbo
Knowitall remember that Costa and Draper are signed under the requirement for each A-League side to have 3 U20 players.
james dean2008-07-03 21:17:13Normo's coming home
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Stu Jacobs is a joke NZ footballs a joke always has been always will be. Kosta is clearly good enough too make this team when you see the likes of messam make it.
Might as well put Murray Mexter in the team or Jason Eaton bloody stooges.
The more (edit -naughty Greek word deleted
) you suk as a player the further you get in New Zealand football.
tigers2008-07-04 09:25:47
Might as well put Murray Mexter in the team or Jason Eaton bloody stooges.
The more (edit -naughty Greek word deleted
) you suk as a player the further you get in New Zealand football.
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Oh how we've missed your witty and well thought out views.
Costa disappointed at U-17 level, is hardly setting the New South Wales league on fire yet it must be some different reason why he isn't called up ?
Get over yourself. If he's good enough his time will come... you don't see Australia looking to take an unproven 18 year old to the Olympics do you ?
Costa disappointed at U-17 level, is hardly setting the New South Wales league on fire yet it must be some different reason why he isn't called up ?
Get over yourself. If he's good enough his time will come... you don't see Australia looking to take an unproven 18 year old to the Olympics do you ?
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Oh how we've missed your witty and well thought out views.
Costa disappointed at U-17 level, is hardly setting the New South Wales league on fire yet it must be some different reason why he isn't called up ?
Get over yourself. If he's good enough his time will come... you don't see Australia looking to take an unproven 18 year old to the Olympics do you ?
Costa disappointed at U-17 level, is hardly setting the New South Wales league on fire yet it must be some different reason why he isn't called up ?
Get over yourself. If he's good enough his time will come... you don't see Australia looking to take an unproven 18 year old to the Olympics do you ?
Ian Hogg (Western Suburbs/Hawke�s Bay United - 18) HHmmmmmmmmmmmmm so hogg is proven then ?????? I think NOT... and yes the messam selection is a joke
yourmomma2008-07-04 09:04:10
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Stu Jacobs is a joke NZ footballs a joke always has been always will be. Kosta is clearly good enough too make this team when you see the likes of messam make it.
Might as well put Murray Mexter in the team or Jason Eaton bloody stooges.
The more (edit -naughty Greek word deleted) you suk as a player the further you get in New Zealand football.
Might as well put Murray Mexter in the team or Jason Eaton bloody stooges.
The more (edit -naughty Greek word deleted
) you suk as a player the further you get in New Zealand football.
Boo this man
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http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/79687,all-whites-are-phoenixfree.aspx more about this story here.
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I initially looked at the Costa and Draper snub as a 2 fingered salute as well and thought I'd better take a look at the squad to see.
Killen, Brockie, Ellensohn and Messam.
I can see why Draper was left out. Messam for Costa would have made me feel a little better but on the whole, I think Stu has picked who he feels is the best squad. Messam isn't a technically stronger footballer, but he is a big strong lad and that makes him an ideal target man to knock the ball into back to goal, hold it up and just lay it off for the strikers running past him, much like how Ricki used Emblen at the Knights for that handful of games.
No quibble from me
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I have no problem with Costa mmissing out. Have seen or heard little to impress me recintly about him. Give him time he can't have everything handed to him on a platter just because he had a very good NZFC season and a good game for the nix. Messim on the other hand could be hit or miss. Even Central league seems to much for him most the time, but he does use his size and strengh to get into positions ( he does miss 19 out of 20) and that may be just what we need to swing a result our way. Or he might just be really embarissing. Finally the Hoggs, I think people are just tired of Ian and Stus bratty spoilt behaviour. They are both good footballers but not world class as there father tells them. Ian sould be in this side on playing ability. I remember there father trying to fight some Auckland city players after one of his boys got sent off at park island and heard he tried to do the same at Kiwitea street. Sounds like just the type of person we want to be taking with the squad. What happings if Ian gets sent off for fighting in China, will Dad be waiting in the tunnel for the other team at half time? Maybe he sould let his boys grow up on there own.
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Im going to man up and say that Draper is a better player in ALL respects than Messam. Apart from Messam maybe being a tad faster and having the ability to throw defenders into the stands, as a PLAYER Draper is better. Better target man, runner, passer and finisher.
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i cant re-call a hogg gettin sent off against auckland city? so fale statement there.
i can recall one getting sent off against waitakere but i dont know what one.
maybe this family is just passionate and we need more of this...the game is too pc in this country.
also i believe that younger hogg is a quick fullback..needed at international level..
but yes interesting too see how they go in china.
i can recall one getting sent off against waitakere but i dont know what one.
maybe this family is just passionate and we need more of this...the game is too pc in this country.
also i believe that younger hogg is a quick fullback..needed at international level..
but yes interesting too see how they go in china.
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You are correct Jim. Neither of your sons got sent off. Greg Ulhman got sent off for putting a late hit on one of your boys. I should have checked my facts first. I too belive Ian is a quick fullback and is needed in this team. I dissagree that your behavour is just passion and we need more of it. Just think if everyone had there Dads on the sidelines looking for a scrap with anyone who fouls their son. Not a good look. You're not at Auckland Grammer now.
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