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The Road To Brazil 2014 via Wellington feat. Mexico

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over 12 years ago

Great write up Pete - cheers for that.

a.haak

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over 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
TV wrote:

Club america just tossed out of concacaf champs league with all thier mex internationals and new national coach at helm

They lost or were tossed out?

HA! HA! Is much, much worse for Mexico when you consider it was a lowly COSTA RICAN club that knocked them out AT HOME IN THE AZTECA - PARTY TIME IN NZ - WOO - HOO !!!!!

http://espnfc.com/us/en/gamecast/378164/gamecast.html?soccernet=true&cc=5901


Americans celebrating on the All Whites Facebook:

  Joel Francis Perez

 Club America eliminated in Azteca by Costa Ricans.......goes to show, anybody can win in Azteca.......except for the Mexicans.......hasta la vista Amigos!

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OH, THE IRONY!!! The manager that this new guy Herrera just replaced at the helm of Mexico, Vucetich, WON THE CONCACAF CHAMPIONS LEAGUE THREE TIMES!!! 2010–112011–122012–13   Wrong man v right man for the job????
Some hilarious video and graphics making fun of Herrera (scroll down from one video to another):

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago

Has anyone else experienced warnings about malware when visiting this thread on Yellow Fever recently? - if you do, ignore them because they are false.

Think this website may be under attack from Mexicans - someone is trying to sabotage some pages on the "All Whites and Other NZ International teams - The Road to Brazil via Mexico thread" by re-directing traffic with false warning links about malware on these pages.

I checked the warning about malware I received with Google Chrome and it proved to be false:

"How did this happen?

In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message."

Safe BrowsingDiagnostic page for le-grove.co.uk

What is the current listing status for le-grove.co.uk?

Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm your computer.

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 46 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 0 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2013-10-16, and suspicious content was never found on this site within the past 90 days.

This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS8426 (CLARANET-AS).

Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?

Over the past 90 days, le-grove.co.uk did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites.

Has this site hosted malware?

No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90 days.

How did this happen?

In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.


Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Fruglo wrote:

I calculate the game as 8am, 14th November, I see people here talking about 13th but that's local time, which would be 14th here....

...correct me if wrong 

You're right, it's  8 am Thursday 14 November NZT. Mexican sources say the game is 2 pm Wednesday 13 November in Mexico: 

http://quehoraesen.net/en/mexico/event/mexico-vs-new-zealand-intercontinental-playoffs-2014-world-cup-brazil/15103

We're 18 hours ahead of Mexico - time zone calculation done here: http://www.happyzebra.com/timezones-worldclock/Mexico-and-New%20Zealand.php

AWAY LEG V MEXICO CONFIRMED AS 9.30 AM NZT THURSDAY 14 NOVEMBER (2.30 PM 13 NOVEMBER MEXICO TIME):

NOTE: Mexican daylight saving ends this weekend, so we are an extra hour head of Mexico.

Ticketmaster, Mexico: 

http://www.ticketmaster.com.mx/mexico-v-nueva-zelanda-mexico-distrito-federal-13-11-2013/event/14004B498085438D?artistid=856033&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=11


Mexico v. NZ  Estadio Azteca ,  Mexico , DFWed November 13, 2013, 14:30

An actual ticket posted online by a Mexico fan:

 

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Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

adjusted for daylight saving?

Changes that is. Mexico switches this weekend

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over 12 years ago

We're gonna stuff their ass full of nachos 

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over 12 years ago

Pepper their angus?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
threatD wrote:

adjusted for daylight saving?

Changes that is. Mexico switches this weekend

Oh, didn't realize that - their daylight saving actually ENDS this weekend:

Sunday, 27 October 2013 1:59:59 a.m. +1h UTC-5h CDT
2:00:00 a.m. → 1:00:00 a.m. 
No UTC-6h CST DST ends | More info
So, FORWARD  an hour then: AWAY LEG V MEXICO 9.30 AM THURSDAY NOVEMBER 14 2013

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago

2.30pm? What a shit time to play a World Cup Playoff.

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over 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Fruglo wrote:

I calculate the game as 8am, 14th November, I see people here talking about 13th but that's local time, which would be 14th here....

...correct me if wrong 

You're right, it's  8 am Thursday 14 November NZT. Mexican sources say the game is 2 pm Wednesday 13 November in Mexico: 

http://quehoraesen.net/en/mexico/event/mexico-vs-new-zealand-intercontinental-playoffs-2014-world-cup-brazil/15103

We're 18 hours ahead of Mexico - time zone calculation done here: http://www.happyzebra.com/timezones-worldclock/Mexico-and-New%20Zealand.php

AWAY LEG V MEXICO CONFIRMED AS 9.30 AM NZT THURSDAY 14 NOVEMBER (2.30 PM 13 NOVEMBER MEXICO TIME):

Ticketmaster, Mexico: 

http://www.ticketmaster.com.mx/mexico-v-nueva-zelanda-mexico-distrito-federal-13-11-2013/event/14004B498085438D?artistid=856033&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=11


Mexico v. NZ  Estadio Azteca ,  Mexico , DFWed November 13, 2013, 14:30

An actual ticket posted online by a Mexico fan:

 

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EDIT : Adjusted above to take into account ending of Mexican daylight saving this weekend: so, not 8.30am NZT but 9.30am:


Sunday, 27 October 2013 1:59:59 a.m. +1h UTC-5h CDT
2:00:00 a.m. → 1:00:00 a.m. 
No UTC-6h CST DST ends | More info
So, FORWARD  an hour then: AWAY LEG V MEXICO 9.30 AM THURSDAY NOVEMBER 14 2013

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago

US National Team assistant coach Andi Herzog on "Wynton's World of Football" on Radio Live Sport last week talking about NZ's chances v Mexico, and the US team. Wynton Rufer played several years in Germany with former Austrian international Herzog at Werder Bremen:  http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Wyntons-World-of-Football-Andi-Herzog/tabid/454/articleID/16008/Default.aspx

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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over 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:

US National Team assistant coach Andi Herzog on "Wynton's World of Football" on Radio Live Sport last week talking about NZ's chances v Mexico, and the US team. Wynton Rufer played several years in Germany with former Austrian international Herzog at Werder Bremen:  http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Wyntons-World-of-Football-Andi-Herzog/tabid/454/articleID/16008/Default.aspx



Disappointing interview IMO. It was flagged as a talk to the USA assistant coach on how NZ can beat Mexico.....and they talked about everything but that.

Will be interesting to see the NZ squad announced.....NZF will probably announce it 5 minutes before kickoff for the first game.

For me the key to the first leg will be how well Ricki manages his subs. With the heat and the altitude it is obvious that many won't last the 90 minutes. The back three of Dura, Reid and Smith will be OK but the worry is the important defenders around them. Leo and Locky are both into their 30's and are not quick any more. They will have to do loads of running to track the wide Mexican players...hard to see them running for the whole 90. If they slow then Mexico will hurt us out wide. Same for Ivan.....no problems with him starting but he won't last more than 45 minutes IMO. He will have a huge job at shutting down the very agile Mexican midfeild. No problems with Wee mac beside him.

In reality I am sure NZ can successfully park the bus at Mexico....the worry will be the last 30 minutes where guys start to feel the effects of altitude and heat. If we stop running and tracking we will get carved up. Thats why the bench....and Rickis use of it, will be critical to the outcome.

The other import positions are the wide guys in front of Leo and Locky. They will have a vital role in tracking the Mexican LB/RB as the bomb down the flanks. Away I would put  the guys who can put in a good defensive shift. If I was coach I would be tempted to have Costa on the right flank.....he can defend and on the left Henderson. He has really impressed me playing in Sweden....a natural lefty who is a really good pro. IMO Rojas will be lacking match fitness to start a game like this out wide..

My team for away
                         Moss
            Reid  Dura   Smith
Leo                                     Locky
             Ivan    Weemac
 Costa                            Henderson
               
                   Wood
Bench   Roux for Leo, Tuiloma for Locky, Payne for Ivan, Rojas, Spoonley. We will need young legs to run and track for the whole 90
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over 12 years ago

Henderson? Can't see Ricki making that happen.

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over 12 years ago
austin10 wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:

US National Team assistant coach Andi Herzog on "Wynton's World of Football" on Radio Live Sport last week talking about NZ's chances v Mexico, and the US team. Wynton Rufer played several years in Germany with former Austrian international Herzog at Werder Bremen:  http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Wyntons-World-of-Football-Andi-Herzog/tabid/454/articleID/16008/Default.aspx



Disappointing interview IMO. It was flagged as a talk to the USA assistant coach on how NZ can beat Mexico.....and they talked about everything but that.

Will be interesting to see the NZ squad announced.....NZF will probably announce it 5 minutes before kickoff for the first game.

For me the key to the first leg will be how well Ricki manages his subs. With the heat and the altitude it is obvious that many won't last the 90 minutes. The back three of Dura, Reid and Smith will be OK but the worry is the important defenders around them. Leo and Locky are both into their 30's and are not quick any more. They will have to do loads of running to track the wide Mexican players...hard to see them running for the whole 90. If they slow then Mexico will hurt us out wide. Same for Ivan.....no problems with him starting but he won't last more than 45 minutes IMO. He will have a huge job at shutting down the very agile Mexican midfeild. No problems with Wee mac beside him.

In reality I am sure NZ can successfully park the bus at Mexico....the worry will be the last 30 minutes where guys start to feel the effects of altitude and heat. If we stop running and tracking we will get carved up. Thats why the bench....and Rickis use of it, will be critical to the outcome.

The other import positions are the wide guys in front of Leo and Locky. They will have a vital role in tracking the Mexican LB/RB as the bomb down the flanks. Away I would put  the guys who can put in a good defensive shift. If I was coach I would be tempted to have Costa on the right flank.....he can defend and on the left Henderson. He has really impressed me playing in Sweden....a natural lefty who is a really good pro. IMO Rojas will be lacking match fitness to start a game like this out wide..

My team for away
                         Moss
            Reid  Dura   Smith
Leo                                     Locky
             Ivan    Weemac
 Costa                            Henderson
               
                   Wood
Bench   Roux for Leo, Tuiloma for Locky, Payne for Ivan, Rojas, Spoonley. We will need young legs to run and track for the whole 90
Seductive post and certainly pause for thought.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
Sackofspuds wrote:

2.30pm? What a shit time to play a World Cup Playoff.

Yep, most mexicans will be mid siesta by then.
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over 12 years ago

Which team from NZ has played a Club America de Mexico team this year?

Kotahitanga. We are one.

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over 12 years ago
austin10 wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:

US National Team assistant coach Andi Herzog on "Wynton's World of Football" on Radio Live Sport last week talking about NZ's chances v Mexico, and the US team. Wynton Rufer played several years in Germany with former Austrian international Herzog at Werder Bremen:  http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Wyntons-World-of-Football-Andi-Herzog/tabid/454/articleID/16008/Default.aspx



Disappointing interview IMO. It was flagged as a talk to the USA assistant coach on how NZ can beat Mexico.....and they talked about everything but that.

Will be interesting to see the NZ squad announced.....NZF will probably announce it 5 minutes before kickoff for the first game.

For me the key to the first leg will be how well Ricki manages his subs. With the heat and the altitude it is obvious that many won't last the 90 minutes. The back three of Dura, Reid and Smith will be OK but the worry is the important defenders around them. Leo and Locky are both into their 30's and are not quick any more. They will have to do loads of running to track the wide Mexican players...hard to see them running for the whole 90. If they slow then Mexico will hurt us out wide. Same for Ivan.....no problems with him starting but he won't last more than 45 minutes IMO. He will have a huge job at shutting down the very agile Mexican midfeild. No problems with Wee mac beside him.

In reality I am sure NZ can successfully park the bus at Mexico....the worry will be the last 30 minutes where guys start to feel the effects of altitude and heat. If we stop running and tracking we will get carved up. Thats why the bench....and Rickis use of it, will be critical to the outcome.

The other import positions are the wide guys in front of Leo and Locky. They will have a vital role in tracking the Mexican LB/RB as the bomb down the flanks. Away I would put  the guys who can put in a good defensive shift. If I was coach I would be tempted to have Costa on the right flank.....he can defend and on the left Henderson. He has really impressed me playing in Sweden....a natural lefty who is a really good pro. IMO Rojas will be lacking match fitness to start a game like this out wide..

My team for away
                         Moss
            Reid  Dura   Smith
Leo                                     Locky
             Ivan    Weemac
 Costa                            Henderson
               
                   Wood
Bench   Roux for Leo, Tuiloma for Locky, Payne for Ivan, Rojas, Spoonley. We will need young legs to run and track for the whole 90

NZF must inform clubs to gain release of players no later than 15 days before the match according to FIFA rules - says Big Pete in previous thread. So that's Oct 29th at latest.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 12 years ago

So they will tell the clubs on October 30th?

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago

Or maybe still searching for/cranking up the fax machine.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 12 years ago
Jerzy Merino wrote:
austin10 wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:

US National Team assistant coach Andi Herzog on "Wynton's World of Football" on Radio Live Sport last week talking about NZ's chances v Mexico, and the US team. Wynton Rufer played several years in Germany with former Austrian international Herzog at Werder Bremen:  http://www.radiolivesport.co.nz/Wyntons-World-of-Football-Andi-Herzog/tabid/454/articleID/16008/Default.aspx



Disappointing interview IMO. It was flagged as a talk to the USA assistant coach on how NZ can beat Mexico.....and they talked about everything but that.

Will be interesting to see the NZ squad announced.....NZF will probably announce it 5 minutes before kickoff for the first game.

For me the key to the first leg will be how well Ricki manages his subs. With the heat and the altitude it is obvious that many won't last the 90 minutes. The back three of Dura, Reid and Smith will be OK but the worry is the important defenders around them. Leo and Locky are both into their 30's and are not quick any more. They will have to do loads of running to track the wide Mexican players...hard to see them running for the whole 90. If they slow then Mexico will hurt us out wide. Same for Ivan.....no problems with him starting but he won't last more than 45 minutes IMO. He will have a huge job at shutting down the very agile Mexican midfeild. No problems with Wee mac beside him.

In reality I am sure NZ can successfully park the bus at Mexico....the worry will be the last 30 minutes where guys start to feel the effects of altitude and heat. If we stop running and tracking we will get carved up. Thats why the bench....and Rickis use of it, will be critical to the outcome.

The other import positions are the wide guys in front of Leo and Locky. They will have a vital role in tracking the Mexican LB/RB as the bomb down the flanks. Away I would put  the guys who can put in a good defensive shift. If I was coach I would be tempted to have Costa on the right flank.....he can defend and on the left Henderson. He has really impressed me playing in Sweden....a natural lefty who is a really good pro. IMO Rojas will be lacking match fitness to start a game like this out wide..

My team for away
                         Moss
            Reid  Dura   Smith
Leo                                     Locky
             Ivan    Weemac
 Costa                            Henderson
               
                   Wood
Bench   Roux for Leo, Tuiloma for Locky, Payne for Ivan, Rojas, Spoonley. We will need young legs to run and track for the whole 90

NZF must inform clubs to gain release of players no later than 15 days before the match according to FIFA rules - says Big Pete in previous thread. So that's Oct 29th at latest.

I think he means the starting XI 
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over 12 years ago

Ah, right. Makes sense.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 12 years ago
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Big Pete 65 wrote:
Fruglo wrote:

I calculate the game as 8am, 14th November, I see people here talking about 13th but that's local time, which would be 14th here....

...correct me if wrong 

You're right, it's  8 am Thursday 14 November NZT. Mexican sources say the game is 2 pm Wednesday 13 November in Mexico: 

http://quehoraesen.net/en/mexico/event/mexico-vs-new-zealand-intercontinental-playoffs-2014-world-cup-brazil/15103

We're 18 hours ahead of Mexico - time zone calculation done here: http://www.happyzebra.com/timezones-worldclock/Mexico-and-New%20Zealand.php

AWAY LEG V MEXICO CONFIRMED AS 9.30 AM NZT THURSDAY 14 NOVEMBER (2.30 PM 13 NOVEMBER MEXICO TIME):

NOTE: Mexican daylight saving ends this weekend, so we are an extra hour head of Mexico.

Ticketmaster, Mexico: 

http://www.ticketmaster.com.mx/mexico-v-nueva-zelanda-mexico-distrito-federal-13-11-2013/event/14004B498085438D?artistid=856033&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=11


Mexico v. NZ  Estadio Azteca ,  Mexico , DFWed November 13, 2013, 14:30

An actual ticket posted online by a Mexico fan:

 

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Means nothing! I have a ticket stating the NZ game is at 7:30 pm  :-(
maybe we can come up with a load of dosh to change the Mexican game to the evening to help our boys out  :-O
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over 12 years ago


So does anyone want one of these?

 

 

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over 12 years ago

Please see below for a summary of the travel arrangements for the All Whites for the upcoming FIFA World Cup™ Qualifier intercontinental playoff with Mexico in November.  Further details, including timings of media windows, will be forwarded as soon as confirmed.  All Whites Schedule Summary (Dates/times shown in local time of venue)

November 9  Squad assemble Los Angeles (pm)

November 10  Training (am) // Training (pm)

November 11  Training (am) // Depart Carson for Mexico City (pm)

November 12  Captain’s Run (pm)

November 13  Game Day (2.30pm)

November 14  Depart Mexico City for Los Angeles (am) // Depart Los Angeles for Auckland (pm)

November 16  Arrive Auckland (am) // Depart for Wellington (am)

November 17  Training (am) // Training (pm)

November 18  Training (am) // Training (pm)

November 19  Captain’s Run (pm)

November 20  Game Day (7.00pm)

November 21  Players depart Wellington (am/pm)

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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

Please see below for a summary of the travel arrangements for the All Whites for the upcoming FIFA World Cup™ Qualifier intercontinental playoff with Mexico in November.  Further details, including timings of media windows, will be forwarded as soon as confirmed.  All Whites Schedule Summary (Dates/times shown in local time of venue)

November 9  Squad assemble Los Angeles (pm)

November 10  Training (am) // Training (pm)

November 11  Training (am) // Depart Carson for Mexico City (pm)

November 12  Captain’s Run (pm)

November 13  Game Day (2.30pm)

November 14  Depart Mexico City for Los Angeles (am) // Depart Los Angeles for Auckland (pm)

November 16  Arrive Auckland (am) // Depart for Wellington (am)

November 17  Training (am) // Training (pm)

November 18  Training (am) // Training (pm)

November 19  Captain’s Run (pm)

November 20  Game Day (7.00pm)

November 21  Players depart Wellington (am/pm)


Going to be Survival of the fittest
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over 12 years ago

Which you think we'd have a bit more experience.

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over 12 years ago
DKP22 wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
DKP22 wrote:

Chris Rattue: Fifa's 'generous' gift does NZ no favours

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11145118

Waste of time reading it.


Felt the same way after finishing it.


Totally disagree.
IMO Rattue makes some good points. Don't want to rehash the Confed debate but its true.....the AW's only really get a handful of proper competitive games every 4 years and there is very little to attract fans to the international game here. Also he is correct. Oceania is a dog and the momentum from the last campaign has long since stopped.
If we fail to beat Mexico then the international game here will stagnate until sometime in 2017 

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over 12 years ago
austin10 wrote:
DKP22 wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
DKP22 wrote:

Chris Rattue: Fifa's 'generous' gift does NZ no favours

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11145118

Waste of time reading it.


Felt the same way after finishing it.


Totally disagree.

IMO Rattue makes some good points. Don't want to rehash the Confed debate but its true.....the AW's only really get a handful of proper competitive games every 4 years and there is very little to attract fans to the international game here. Also he is correct. Oceania is a dog and the momentum from the last campaign has long since stopped.

If we fail to beat Mexico then the international game here will stagnate until sometime in 2017 


+1

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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Tom Marshall ‏@mexicoworldcup 2m

Mexican federation's Gonzalez Inarritu on @ESPN_JorgeRamos saying Chicharito is available against New Zealand and wasn't booked v Costa Rica

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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

Tom Marshall ‏@mexicoworldcup 2m

Mexican federation's Gonzalez Inarritu on @ESPN_JorgeRamos saying Chicharito is available against New Zealand and wasn't booked v Costa Rica

Oh bollocks :-(
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over 12 years ago

Oh well. At least when we qualify people wont have an out saying they didnt have their best team.

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over 12 years ago

I watched him get shown a yellow by the referee. Match fixing anyone?


Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 12 years ago
patrick478 wrote:

I watched him get shown a yellow by the referee. Match fixing anyone?



+1
I definitely saw him get shown a yellow card and I remember how pissed off he was cos he knew he would be suspended.
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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

Tom Marshall ‏@mexicoworldcup 2m

Mexican federation's Gonzalez Inarritu on @ESPN_JorgeRamos saying Chicharito is available against New Zealand and wasn't booked v Costa Rica

Oh bollocks :-(
Yeah, but he hasn't been named and neither have any of their other overseas based players. So chances are he won't play anyway. If they say he wasn't booked, they are wrong. Because he was. If they had said the card was rescinded or something along those lines, then ok. But lol at not booked. I hope he does play so that we can go to FIFA and have them look into it.
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over 12 years ago

They'd have to find the fax machine first.

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