Title says it all, what do you think?
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Mixed feelings really.
The black kit does look sharp. Brendan Telfer likes it.
But what about history and the 'All Whites' brand?
Stevo2009-06-12 17:07:06
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Wasn't this poll on the front of the fever site a couple weeks back?
Saying that. After seeing them play in black, i have been converted. Really like the black strip. (Not wanting to open up old wounds cut keep the name all whites)
Saying that. After seeing them play in black, i have been converted. Really like the black strip. (Not wanting to open up old wounds cut keep the name all whites)
All Aboard the Phoenix/ All Whites Bandwagon!!
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Perfection. Keeps everyone happy.
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Perfection. Keeps everyone happy.
Nah, it's football not motorsport. . . .

We can always call them "Football Blacks" for the Men and "Football Ferns" still for the Women as they wear Black.
When the guys are playing in White we can call them "All Whites." When the guys are playing in Black, we can call them "Football Blacks." Can't ready see why we have to stick to one brand when we can have two.
Actually there is no reason why we can't call the Women National team playing in Black as "Football Blacks" as well.
Heck both the national men and women Hockey teams are called the "Blacks Sticks (Women/men) team"
I think we need to move on. The non-football public likes Black and we bring national pride rather than fan pride in the picture.
Fans . . . get over it.
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Any one for the Ball Blacks?
Nah the ball is usually white.
"Blackfoot" has been taken by an Northern America Tribe.
"Black boots" has been taken but that describes any teams with boots on.AllWhitebelievr2009-06-12 19:15:51
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Mixed feelings really.�
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The black kit does look sharp.� Brendan Telfer likes it.�
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But what about history and the 'All Whites' brand?
So you want it but you also sentimental. It sucks where you stand now eh?
However in cricket, before the "Black Caps" brand, they were wearing beige as a uniform in the one-day internationals. It never upset them and the fans still wear beige uniforms with sentimental value and in fact showing that they are firm and long standing fans.
Fans . . . get over it.
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You guys sound like All Blacks fans. I really don't think the colour of the uniform makes one iota of difference. 


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Woah, Black is doing well
Reeboker2009-06-12 22:05:27
How about something that has both but isnt a checkerboard

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black all the way!!!! off to get one tomorrow. white makes us look booring imo
. history is history but this is the beginning of a new era in nz football.
the past will always be there , it's the future of the game I look forward to.
. history is history but this is the beginning of a new era in nz football. the past will always be there , it's the future of the game I look forward to.
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You guys sound like All Blacks fans. I really don't think the colour of the uniform makes one iota of difference.�

You only say that because Red is not an option . . .
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oh yeah new name black ballers
That's the basketballers second brand name.
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Woah, Black is doing well
How about something that has both but isnt a checkerboard
Truth comes out, this thread is just an excuse for Wynrs to do more photoshopping

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Black. It looks great on a football pitch. Keep the All Whites name though, it kinda works on some level...
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black home, white away, call em the all whites.
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Mixed feelings really.
The black kit does look sharp. Brendan Telfer likes it.
But what about history and the 'All Whites' brand?
I feel the same. Looks good and makes us somewhat unique on the footballing world stage but I don't think we should throw away the history of the White kit so easily.
a.haak

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The black strip looks mint!
I reckon we should keep it as the home strip and have the white or blue as an alternate - keep the name all whites its kinda funny when we where an all black kit!
I reckon we should keep it as the home strip and have the white or blue as an alternate - keep the name all whites its kinda funny when we where an all black kit!
Queenslander 3x a year.
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Mixed feelings really.�
I feel the same. Looks good and makes us somewhat unique on the footballing world stage but I don't think we should throw away the history of the White kit so easily.
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The black kit does look sharp.� Brendan Telfer likes it.�
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But what about history and the 'All Whites' brand?
Well, thats what makes us unique and good looking on the footballing world stage. It's the mentality it brings for players and fans alike. People are so PC about Black is not a factor when we are playing in it and talking about it often, even among the players themselves. Heck, how many times does this come up over the years? There are obvious reasons that it won't go away.
I am still for keeping the All Whites brand and the use of it as an alternative strip rather than being just an away strip or just an home strip. We should switch between the two whenever we feel like it and who we are playing against.AllWhitebelievr2009-06-13 14:50:05
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Woah, Black is doing well
Either more or less blue and you've got a winner there wyners.
How about something that has both but isnt a checkerboard

Leave it until the qualifiers are finished. If we make it to the World Cup, bring on a new era, if not, respect our greatest footballing achievment to date and keep the All Whites.
You know we belong together...
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Leave it until the qualifiers are finished. If we make it to the World Cup, bring on a new era, if not, respect our greatest footballing achievment to date and keep the All Whites.
Assuming we qualify in black of course

I don't believe qualifying for 2010 would be enough to match 1982, I'd say that campaign more of an achievement (no disrespect to our current bunch of course!) However I do kinda agree with you that qualifying for 2010 in black would be a more acceptable reason (IMO, the only acceptable reason...and even that's a stretch) to make the switch.
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A friend of mine who use to be in the advertising industry told me of a study done on team colours. The study showed that a black uniform has a greater presence & is intimidating to the opposition. However, not to France apparently 
I think they look good in black. Lets keep it.

I think they look good in black. Lets keep it.
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Leave it until the qualifiers are finished. If we make it to the World Cup, bring on a new era, if not, respect our greatest footballing achievment to date and keep the All Whites.
Assuming we qualify in black of course

I don't believe qualifying for 2010 would be enough to match 1982, I'd say that campaign more of an achievement (no disrespect to our current bunch of course!) However I do kinda agree with you that qualifying for 2010 in black would be a more acceptable reason (IMO, the only acceptable reason...and even that's a stretch) to make the switch.
You know we belong together...
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I repeat:
No el g. No Boavista. Wyner's Reeboker's suggestion is far classier, and I want All White home and black with white pinstripes away

You know we belong together...
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From a branding stand the 'All Whites' idea/name is/was a horrible decision it made football look like the Anti-rugby. With a country with Rugby so ingrained into it's sense of National pride it was the wrong decision, I doubt that NZ Football would change the branding now though.
In terms of what jersey colour all white or all black are both good options. The Anti-racism (half black/white) one is ok, but it's a nike 'stand up speak up' top so I don't think we could get it.
In terms of what jersey colour all white or all black are both good options. The Anti-racism (half black/white) one is ok, but it's a nike 'stand up speak up' top so I don't think we could get it.
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I think El Grapadura's is the sharper looking option...
but for me personally it brings back unhealthy memories of angry euro chefs wielding big knives and cleavers!!
but for me personally it brings back unhealthy memories of angry euro chefs wielding big knives and cleavers!!
Improving,,on the up, a work in progress from Italiano and the Nix. Bring on the bathroom bling in '24! COYN!
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I think El Grapadura's is the sharper looking option...
but for me personally it brings back unhealthy memories of angry euro chefs wielding big knives and cleavers!!
but for me personally it brings back unhealthy memories of angry euro chefs wielding big knives and cleavers!!
You've seen El Grap in the kitchen then?
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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I think El Grapadura's is the sharper looking option...but for me personally it brings back unhealthy memories of angry euro chefs wielding big knives and cleavers!!
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You've seen El Grap in the kitchen then?
Doubt it. Haven't stepped into one since the turn of the century.
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It dont really matter what colour we play in, well still be stink bro!
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maybe the white is jinxed after all we've played very ave in white the last 2 games and played wicked in black against italy!!!!! do it ricki play in black against Iraq its just another thing that might work 

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maybe the white is jinxed after all we've played very ave in white the last 2 games and played wicked in black against italy!!!!! do it ricki play in black against Iraq its just another thing that might work�

I think you've just summed up the depth of our tactical thinking.

I know, I know, its serious!
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Ha, I've always thought we play better in black and our best results from SA came in black. Maybe we should finally make the, as I see it INEVITABLE change to black.
Supporter world's best and worst football teams: Waikato/WaiBop, Kingz, Knights, Phoenix, The Argyle, The Whites & the All Whites
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Ha, I've always thought we play better in black and our best results from SA came in black. Maybe we should finally make the, as I see it INEVITABLE change to black.
got my vote 100%













the earlier the better!!
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Black. It just looks good.
As for the name -
New Zealand Football Team.
Why do we have to name all our teams, black, white, silver, ferns, caps etc?
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