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Yellow Fever's Young All Whites' World Cup Fund

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over 12 years ago

Hello fever land,

It appears from reading various threads that most people think it's pretty stink of NZF to ask kids to pay toward their World Cup campaign. 

We are already aware of a number of players, and their families, who will struggle to meet this demand. So here is your opportunity to help the lads get to the World Cup without the financial pain.

Jump onto https://www.givealittle.co.nz/cause/U17WorldCup 

All and any donations are welcome and we encourage you to spread the link to your football family.

So please dig deep and help us help these lads out.

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over 12 years ago

Wouldn't this money be better spent on some sort of scholarship? 

I get that you guys disagree with it as a philosophical decision, but doing this doesn't really do much to change that.

But I suppose if people want to pay toward someone's trip, then good for them. 


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over 12 years ago

It may or may not change NZF stance. Who knows. But what it will definately do is actually helps some kids who are struggling financially. 

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over 12 years ago

Rumour of a story in the Herald on Sunday.

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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History
2ndBest wrote:

It may or may not change NZF stance. Who knows. But what it will definately do is actually helps some kids who are struggling financially. 

Didn't NZF say they'd do that?

Herald story on Sunday would be cool. At the very least this could raise awareness. 


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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

It may or may not change NZF stance. Who knows. But what it will definately do is actually helps some kids who are struggling financially. 


How will you decide who gets the money?

Normo's coming home

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over 12 years ago
james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

It may or may not change NZF stance. Who knows. But what it will definately do is actually helps some kids who are struggling financially. 


How will you decide who gets the money?


Good question, and it's fair to say we haven't exactly figured that out ourselves. It depends a little on how much we raise.

We thought we'd start with the kids that our outside Auckland. But I think we'll also chat with NZF and/or the 'leaders' of that parent group and see if there is anyone particularly needy. It's a slightly sensitive convo mind you.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:

Wouldn't this money be better spent on some sort of scholarship? 

I get that you guys disagree with it as a philosophical decision, but doing this doesn't really do much to change that.

But I suppose if people want to pay toward someone's trip, then good for them. 


I'm not sure what "some sort of scholarship" might be. I ran the old YF scholarship if that's what you're meaning then you're in luck anyway because something's in the pipeline.

But it's not related to the stupid that is this decision by NZF.

What this little fundraising drive of ours does is:

1. Allow all the people who said "this is horrendous for these kids" to actually help, and
2. Hopefully through loads of people donating, demonstrate to NZF the depth of feeling about this and that people do give a shit.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago

Fair enough. 

*changes stance*

Cool idea guys! 


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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

It may or may not change NZF stance. Who knows. But what it will definately do is actually helps some kids who are struggling financially. 


How will you decide who gets the money?


Good question, and it's fair to say we haven't exactly figured that out ourselves. It depends a little on how much we raise.


We thought we'd start with the kids that our outside Auckland. But I think we'll also chat with NZF and/or the 'leaders' of that parent group and see if there is anyone particularly needy. It's a slightly sensitive convo mind you.


I'm all for this initiative, and I commend you guys for doing it, but just a question I was interested in - on another forum, I saw something that said everyone has paid already. If that's the case - what will the money go to? Will you give it to certain players as a reimbursement, give it to NZF and tell them to divvy it out, what's the plan?
Or is it still up in the air and pertinent to upcoming discussions?
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over 12 years ago
N-Bomb wrote:
Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

It may or may not change NZF stance. Who knows. But what it will definately do is actually helps some kids who are struggling financially. 


How will you decide who gets the money?


Good question, and it's fair to say we haven't exactly figured that out ourselves. It depends a little on how much we raise.


We thought we'd start with the kids that our outside Auckland. But I think we'll also chat with NZF and/or the 'leaders' of that parent group and see if there is anyone particularly needy. It's a slightly sensitive convo mind you.


I'm all for this initiative, and I commend you guys for doing it, but just a question I was interested in - on another forum, I saw something that said everyone has paid already. If that's the case - what will the money go to? Will you give it to certain players as a reimbursement, give it to NZF and tell them to divvy it out, what's the plan?

Or is it still up in the air and pertinent to upcoming discussions?

I think that other post was being sarcastic.... as it talked about splitting time with all 3 keepers.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
Jeff Vader wrote:
N-Bomb wrote:
Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

It may or may not change NZF stance. Who knows. But what it will definately do is actually helps some kids who are struggling financially. 


How will you decide who gets the money?


Good question, and it's fair to say we haven't exactly figured that out ourselves. It depends a little on how much we raise.


We thought we'd start with the kids that our outside Auckland. But I think we'll also chat with NZF and/or the 'leaders' of that parent group and see if there is anyone particularly needy. It's a slightly sensitive convo mind you.


I'm all for this initiative, and I commend you guys for doing it, but just a question I was interested in - on another forum, I saw something that said everyone has paid already. If that's the case - what will the money go to? Will you give it to certain players as a reimbursement, give it to NZF and tell them to divvy it out, what's the plan?

Or is it still up in the air and pertinent to upcoming discussions?

I think that other post was being sarcastic.... as it talked about splitting time with all 3 keepers.

That's what I get for not reading the rest of the post, you are quite correct. My questions still stand, they just look a lot stupider now.
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over 12 years ago

Awesome idea is their going to be a whip around in aisle 21 next sunday? or do I have to get out of the stone age and pay online??

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over 12 years ago

I'm going to a World Cup next year and am struggling to pay for it. Does anyone want to chip in?


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over 12 years ago

N-Bomb. Some of the families have paid up front, some are paying by instalments. I think realistically (because we want to take the time to raise as much as possible) we'll be reimbursing families. But I don't actually think that changes anything.


We certainly aren't giving the money to NZF :)

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:

N-Bomb. Some of the families have paid up front, some are paying by instalments. I think realistically (because we want to take the time to raise as much as possible) we'll be reimbursing families. But I don't actually think that changes anything.


We certainly aren't giving the money to NZF :)


Haha as I expected, cheers Smithy, definitely a worthy cause, top work from the YF.
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over 12 years ago

Where do our subs go these days? De Jong's back pocket?
Great initiative lads! 

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over 12 years ago

Up to half would probably indirectly go into the pockets of your first team. 

The other half goes to Fred and friends. 


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over 12 years ago
Hard News wrote:
Sackofspuds wrote:

Where do our subs go these days? De Jong's back pocket?

Incredibly valid question.


Pretty good time to ask the question of NZF - this issue has got media attention, perhaps now's the time for some questions on the lack of detail in the annual report?  Simon Plumb seems pretty keen on this issue

Normo's coming home

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over 12 years ago
james dean wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Sackofspuds wrote:

Where do our subs go these days? De Jong's back pocket?

Incredibly valid question.


Pretty good time to ask the question of NZF - this issue has got media attention, perhaps now's the time for some questions on the lack of detail in the annual report?  Simon Plumb seems pretty keen on this issue


Behind the scenes some of the federations have demanded this info and been told "simmer down kids, leave the big decisions to the big boys" or words to that effect.

Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.

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over 12 years ago

It's just an absolute shambles and I know it has been for a while now but this last month or so has really brought everything to the fore.
Leading up to the biggest couple of games in the last 4 years and NZF are taking money off kids and can hardly organise us a decent match.
It's a national disgrace.

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over 12 years ago

The boys in the south won't like that...

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Sackofspuds wrote:

Where do our subs go these days? De Jong's back pocket?

Incredibly valid question.


Pretty good time to ask the question of NZF - this issue has got media attention, perhaps now's the time for some questions on the lack of detail in the annual report?  Simon Plumb seems pretty keen on this issue


Behind the scenes some of the federations have demanded this info and been told "simmer down kids, leave the big decisions to the big boys" or words to that effect.



they're operating from FIFA's handbook

the ASB prem franchises asked where the ASB sponsorship $$$ go and we given a similar fob-off

360footballnews.com

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over 12 years ago
Smithy wrote:
james dean wrote:
Hard News wrote:
Sackofspuds wrote:

Where do our subs go these days? De Jong's back pocket?

Incredibly valid question.


Pretty good time to ask the question of NZF - this issue has got media attention, perhaps now's the time for some questions on the lack of detail in the annual report?  Simon Plumb seems pretty keen on this issue


Behind the scenes some of the federations have demanded this info and been told "simmer down kids, leave the big decisions to the big boys" or words to that effect.


I hope the natives are getting restless...the little triumvirate of Van Hattum, Ricki and Fred concerns me

Normo's coming home

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over 12 years ago

I heard the parents can pay in installments, I wonder what NZF would have done if all the parents had said they were not paying??? 

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over 12 years ago

Hey, just wanted to chime in that I drank a bunch of booze at the BB and then felt like a real cunt that I didn't have any money to give. Glad you guys did the Givealittle thing, as it gave me a chance to make things right. Hope these guys make their funding.

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over 12 years ago

Good man. Appreciate it.

Currently at $695.00 with $300 odd to be banks from the whip around last Sunday. So that is one kid paid for already.


Hoping to get another couple. Look out for the donation jar at the Bencher Sunday.

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over 12 years ago

Instead of a High Performance Manager, NZF needs a Fundraising role like many of the charities have. (2nd Best you up for the job?)

I can't believe that there wouldn't be 30 businesses in the whole of NZ who couldn't donate $1000, even some of our professionals could make some contribution. (Isn't Harry Ngata head of the NZPFA?)

They need someone who can forge relationships, drive fundraising campaigns, and research funds available to Not for Profit organisations and youth development.

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over 12 years ago

Staff cost money. Any wage paid toward a fundraising role, may as well just be paid toward the programme they'd be fundraising for. 


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over 12 years ago · edited over 12 years ago · History

obviously the job's mandate would be to raise more funds than it costs to have the person employed

but i get what you're saying.  they would have to raise more than $1,000 from 30 businesses

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over 12 years ago

How did the bucket go yesterday? I was surprised that it was actually a bucket and thought it would be very easy to take money out rather than put in. I hope we made some good coin though. As I no longer play football and so don't pay subs, I felt good being able to help the boys out a little.

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over 12 years ago

We're a trusting bunch.  Haven't counted it properly, but think there was about $200 in there.

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over 12 years ago

Did you guys know that VH and a couple of others went to the under 17 match draw ? I bet that cost a few thousand......



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over 12 years ago
2ndBest wrote:

We're a trusting bunch.  Haven't counted it properly, but think there was about $200 in there.

Being trusting hasn't always worked out well in the past mind you! 


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over 12 years ago
Tegal wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

We're a trusting bunch.  Haven't counted it properly, but think there was about $200 in there.

Being trusting hasn't always worked out well in the past mind you! 


See: Santa Hat debacle of December 2011.

Yellow Fever - Misery loves company

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over 12 years ago

Turns out there was $260 in there. Thanks y'all

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over 12 years ago
patrick478 wrote:
Tegal wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

We're a trusting bunch.  Haven't counted it properly, but think there was about $200 in there.

Being trusting hasn't always worked out well in the past mind you! 


See: Santa Hat debacle of December 2011.


Nothing to do with trust, lots to do with putting a clown like Greenie charge of the money

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Reference things I wanna watch, reference girls I wanna bite
Now I'm firefly like a burning kite
And yousa fake fuck like a fleshlight

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over 12 years ago
Frankie Mac wrote:
patrick478 wrote:
Tegal wrote:
2ndBest wrote:

We're a trusting bunch.  Haven't counted it properly, but think there was about $200 in there.

Being trusting hasn't always worked out well in the past mind you! 


See: Santa Hat debacle of December 2011.


Nothing to do with trust, lots to do with putting a clown like Greenie charge of the money

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