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Tegal wrote:

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Oh dear Tegal wont be happy!!!

Doesn't actually bother me. I think it should be at kiwitea street. I'm suggesting that to be consistent, some of you lot should be unhappy at the decision. 

FT didnt have a stand so should have been moved. Kiwitea can't hold enough capacity, so should be moved. 

But it seems "whatever happened to home advantage" only applies to ACFC. They should get to enjoy home advantage, but anyone else should be made to move the game to a more suitable venue. 

Capacity of the ground is totally irrelevant!!!
Once filled to capacity then no more spectators are admitted , The increased crowd will be mainly Ba supporters so why would the home club want to accomodate them more of them??
The facilites at the ground are far superior to Fred Taylor Park which is in breach of the intial regulations to be granted an NZFC franchise and other than when Waikato play at Ngaruawahia and Team Wellington at Miramar (although I personally prefer DF Park to Newtown but only on a nice day!!!) are without peer the worst in the league
Im guessing the whole not fit for a Final debateb stems from the fact that in 2011 Waitakere Utd and NZF realised that its a dump not befitting a Final and moved the game to Trusts and the question is why this didnt happen this year
April 29, 2013 16:19
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Hard News wrote:

 In season 1 Team Wellington played at Newtown park which has a lovely stand.

Yes because it was originally a requirement that you had semi-decent facilities... this was when the NZFC was going to raise standards etc for all sides of the game...we can all laugh now ...

 

PS :  who actually wins from the scum being forced into the last century , Im suspicious that it might just be OFC s embarassment  at the sight a barely populated sheep paddock , hosting a semifinal of their Golden Competition...

again tho I wish the westies could hold it at the Paddock ,. if nothing else it might force NZF to take a stand on the publics requirements in this century...

April 29, 2013 16:21
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Hard News wrote:

 In season 1 Team Wellington played at Newtown park which has a lovely stand.


Granted, but it wasnt purpose built by the franchise to gain entry in the competion which I believe is the point FU BLU is making
April 29, 2013 16:22
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"Take a stand "

 

he,he

 

 

 

FIGJAM !

April 29, 2013 16:22
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So your issue wasnt that the final was being played there at all, it was that there isn't a stand and they shouldn't have been allowed to play there all season. So either nobody wanted the final to be moved specifically, or you were protesting every waitakere home game should have been moved. 

I think not. You wanted their final moved for lack of a stand, and you don't want your game moved despite a lack of capacity. Hypocrisy at its finest. 

Capacity is also hardly irrelevant, finals and other such big games are moved to bigger venues all the time. I'm agreeing that it should be at kiwitea, but I also think waitakere were within their rights to host theirs at FT. You can't have it both ways.

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April 29, 2013 16:29 · Edited April 29, 2013 16:40
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No idiot ...capacity alone is not an issue ...u go tell OFC your ground has a capacity of 20,000 ...which it probably does,  of course only 500 can see the field ,,,why does OFC NOT want your semifinal to be played at your spectacularly shitty grounds ?

Ask ...cretin , is there no power or something , are Amicale deathly afraid of sheep ...?

Answers on a stamp smaller than yer brain...

 

Im not even going to ask what "lover specifically " means ....

April 29, 2013 16:36
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wow name calling - way to take your argument to the next level.


April 29, 2013 16:37
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" Hardly irrelevant "

 

 

F me ....youve recovered well from your brain surgery ...

April 29, 2013 16:38
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chopah wrote:

wow name calling - way to take your argument to the next level.


This. A typically intelligent response. 

April 29, 2013 16:39
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Hard News wrote:

 In season 1 Team Wellington played at Newtown park which has a lovely stand.

 

in 1981 had a stunning girlfriend and a career ....your point ?

April 29, 2013 16:39 · Edited April 29, 2013 16:40
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Tegal wrote:

chopah wrote:

wow name calling - way to take your argument to the next level.


This. A typically intelligent response. 

 

True , tho u are still smarter than your name ...see i can be nice

April 29, 2013 16:41
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FU BLU wrote:


" Hardly irrelevant "

 

 

F me ....youve recovered well from your brain surgery ...


i think i may have missed your point on this one
April 29, 2013 16:43
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FU BLU wrote:

Tegal wrote:

chopah wrote:

wow name calling - way to take your argument to the next level.


This. A typically intelligent response. 

 

True , tho u are still smarter than your name ...see i can be nice

Since we've descended into pointing out errors in our responses, and you called me an idiot etc.

They're spelt:

Though

You

And "i" should be capitalised. 

Have a nice day. 

April 29, 2013 16:44 · Edited April 29, 2013 16:44
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FU BLU wrote:


No idiot ...capacity alone is not an issue ...u go tell OFC your ground has a capacity of 20,000 ...which it probably does,  of course only 500 can see the field ,,,why does OFC NOT want your semifinal to be played at your spectacularly shitty grounds ?

Ask ...cretin , is there no power or something , are Amicale deathly afraid of sheep ...?

Answers on a stamp smaller than yer brain...

 

Im not even going to ask what "lover specifically " means ....

Stop with the name calling. You've already had warnings. Consider this your last.

April 29, 2013 16:47
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Tegal wrote:

So your issue wasnt that the final was being played there at all, it was that there isn't a stand and they shouldn't have been allowed to play there all season. So either nobody wanted the final to be moved specifically, or you were protesting every waitakere home game should have been moved. 

I think not. You wanted their final moved for lack of a stand, and you don't want your game moved despite a lack of capacity. Hypocrisy at its finest. 

Capacity is also hardly irrelevant, finals and other such big games are moved to bigger venues all the time. I'm agreeing that it should be at kiwitea, but I also think waitakere were within their rights to host theirs at FT. You can't have it both ways.

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Fred Taylor is a dump for any senior mens football ie NL or ASBP the only thing it has going for it is Parking 
And there was a stand for the Final but was uncovered so was kinda pointless considering that there is no shelter from the Sun or Rain 
FFS they cant even provide covered benches for coaches and subs
The point I made was why was it considered a dump in 2011by club and NZF and not in 2013? 
April 29, 2013 16:50
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2ndBest wrote:

FU BLU wrote:


No idiot ...capacity alone is not an issue ...u go tell OFC your ground has a capacity of 20,000 ...which it probably does,  of course only 500 can see the field ,,,why does OFC NOT want your semifinal to be played at your spectacularly shitty grounds ?

Ask ...cretin , is there no power or something , are Amicale deathly afraid of sheep ...?

Answers on a stamp smaller than yer brain...

 

Im not even going to ask what "lover specifically " means ....

Stop with the name calling. You've already had warnings. Consider this your last.


And here comes the cyber police!!
April 29, 2013 16:53
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i may have missed the answer to this question, but are there actually regulations for OFC champions league games in regards to grounds and facilities etc?

i am well aware of the ASBP ones - just curious if there are any in OFC champions league.



April 29, 2013 16:55
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R&C wrote:
And here comes the cyber police!!


It's our house. Our rules.

The bit I like best is where the don't read things and talk to Tegal like he's a Waitak fan.
April 29, 2013 16:56 · Edited April 29, 2013 16:57
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Hard News wrote:

R&C wrote:
And here comes the cyber police!!


It's our house. Our rules.

The bit I like best is where the don't read things and talk to Tegal like he's a Waitak fan.


Yeah, get your own website and do what you like.

Oh, yeah, you have, and it's a ghost town.

April 29, 2013 17:01
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Hard News wrote:

R&C wrote:
And here comes the cyber police!!


It's our house. Our rules.

The bit I like best is where the don't read things and talk to Tegal like he's a Waitak fan.
 
Didnt actually disagree with 2nd best but hey whatever makes you feel good about life yourself HN.
And never for 1 minute thought that Tegal is a Waitak fan they dont have any! 

April 29, 2013 17:02
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terminator_x wrote:

Hard News wrote:

R&C wrote:
And here comes the cyber police!!


It's our house. Our rules.

The bit I like best is where the don't read things and talk to Tegal like he's a Waitak fan.


Yeah, get your own website and do what you like.

Oh, yeah, you have, and it's a ghost town.


Progress!! 1st post ever that didnt mention pokie money i'm so proud of you
April 29, 2013 17:03
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chopah wrote:

i may have missed the answer to this question, but are there actually regulations for OFC champions league games in regards to grounds and facilities etc?

i am well aware of the ASBP ones - just curious if there are any in OFC champions league.




Im not aware of any but then again why would I im not involved with any club competing in it
Mind you seen as following ASBP regulations appear to be optional I suspect any OFC ones would hold similar sway
April 29, 2013 17:07
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When I think about it, when the competition started, all teams had covered stands so the point made is not technically correct.

Waitakere - The Trusts and had a stand built there after season 3 I think but then moved

ACFC - noted

Waikato - Was at Waikato Stadium. Moved

HBU - Park Island, still there

YHM - FMGC stadium but then moved

TW - Newtown Park but then moved

Otago - Carisbrook then the Caledonian then moved but have tried to stay at a covered location

Canty - English Park, still there.

 

I think the point is more that the standards of the competition has not been upheld but really its all semantics....


 

April 29, 2013 19:20
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Jeff Vader wrote:

When I think about it, when the competition started, all teams had covered stands so the point made is not technically correct.

Waitakere - The Trusts and had a stand built there after season 3 I think but then moved

ACFC - noted

Waikato - Was at Waikato Stadium. Moved

HBU - Park Island, still there

YHM - FMGC stadium but then moved

TW - Newtown Park but then moved

Otago - Carisbrook then the Caledonian then moved but have tried to stay at a covered location

Canty - English Park, still there.

 

I think the point is more that the standards of the competition has not been upheld but really its all semantics....


 


The point made is 100% correct 
The stand at Trusts Stadium was not in use until the 4th season so clearly the ground and club didnt adhere to regulations at time of entry into the league!!!
They put up a rather pathetic cover that covered about 4 people in the "Red Zone" (Wonder what happened to that rather sad attempt at a  suuporters club) but it blew down after a couple of games
And YHM Started at Memorial Park in the 1st before moving to Speedway stadium in 2nd Season

April 29, 2013 20:12
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Again, I'm not really disputing the holistic point because the evidence remains that the standards have dropped which is why I said I'm playing with words. 7/8 started with one and 5 still have one. I would be intrigued if there was any exemption granted for Waitakere in lieu of an impending stand. I know 3 years is a hell of long time (even if you threw in resource consent) but I am intrigued.

Now that i think about it, Memorial Park has a covered stand and always had.

April 29, 2013 22:19 · Edited April 29, 2013 22:20
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rules have been altered

April 29, 2013 22:28
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Jeff Vader wrote:

Again, I'm not really disputing the holistic point because the evidence remains that the standards have dropped which is why I said I'm playing with words. 7/8 started with one and 5 still have one. I would be intrigued if there was any exemption granted for Waitakere in lieu of an impending stand. I know 3 years is a hell of long time (even if you threw in resource consent) but I am intrigued.

Now that i think about it, Memorial Park has a covered stand and always had.


I never said it didnt 
But if you're going to state my facts are'nt 100% correct probably an idea to insure yours are!!
April 29, 2013 22:34
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Ensure

April 29, 2013 22:37
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Tegal wrote:

Ensure


Thanks for that 
Do you spell every single post or just the ones involving Jeff Vader im sure he's relieved you've got his back 
I'll refrain from saying what i'm really thinking to avoid giving Big Brother on this site a chance to flex there little muscles
April 29, 2013 22:54
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Wow, attacked for agreeing with a ACFC fan. Has to be a first.

Your forum really is a tumble weed city huh...

April 29, 2013 22:58
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Their little muscles 

April 29, 2013 22:58
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R&C wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Again, I'm not really disputing the holistic point because the evidence remains that the standards have dropped which is why I said I'm playing with words. 7/8 started with one and 5 still have one. I would be intrigued if there was any exemption granted for Waitakere in lieu of an impending stand. I know 3 years is a hell of long time (even if you threw in resource consent) but I am intrigued.

Now that i think about it, Memorial Park has a covered stand and always had.


I never said it didnt 
But if you're going to state my facts are'nt 100% correct probably an idea to insure yours are!!
Ah the old 'if it moves, attack it' theorem. I was correcting myself not you but when you have your head up your own ass, you won't know the difference I guess.
April 29, 2013 23:03
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Jeff Vader wrote:

Wow, attacked for agreeing with a ACFC fan. Has to be a first.

Your forum really is a tumble weed city huh...


Who said I was an ACFC Fan?

April 29, 2013 23:07
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Tegal wrote:

Their little muscles 


Thanks again coward
April 29, 2013 23:08
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Jeff Vader wrote:

When I think about it, when the competition started, all teams had covered stands so the point made is not technically correct.

Waitakere - The Trusts and had a stand built there after season 3 I think but then moved

ACFC - noted

Waikato - Was at Waikato Stadium. Moved

HBU - Park Island, still there

YHM - FMGC stadium but then moved

TW - Newtown Park but then moved

Otago - Carisbrook then the Caledonian then moved but have tried to stay at a covered location

Canty - English Park, still there.

 

I think the point is more that the standards of the competition has not been upheld but really its all semantics....


 


Cleary incorrect regarding YHM and Otago Utd
So wherever my head is its still able to notice your mistakes
April 29, 2013 23:14
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Jeff Vader wrote:

R&C wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

Again, I'm not really disputing the holistic point because the evidence remains that the standards have dropped which is why I said I'm playing with words. 7/8 started with one and 5 still have one. I would be intrigued if there was any exemption granted for Waitakere in lieu of an impending stand. I know 3 years is a hell of long time (even if you threw in resource consent) but I am intrigued.

Now that i think about it, Memorial Park has a covered stand and always had.


I never said it didnt 
But if you're going to state my facts are'nt 100% correct probably an idea to insure yours are!!
Ah the old 'if it moves, attack it' theorem. I was correcting myself not you but when you have your head up your own ass, you won't know the difference I guess.

You keep hiding mate 
Your a coward even worse than your mate Tegal
April 29, 2013 23:18
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Why exactly am I coward? I could be mistaken but I think my name is on my profile. If it happens to not be, I don't exactly hide, a lot of people know who I am on here, I'm always willing to meet up for a beer, even met a few Auckland fever on my trip up there this season. 

As for JV and I, we disagree on things a lot more than we agree. But at least we respect each others opinions. Whereas you very quickly turn to name calling etc, I'd say that makes you the coward, not us. 

April 29, 2013 23:24
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R&C wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

When I think about it, when the competition started, all teams had covered stands so the point made is not technically correct.

Waitakere - The Trusts and had a stand built there after season 3 I think but then moved

ACFC - noted

Waikato - Was at Waikato Stadium. Moved

HBU - Park Island, still there

YHM - FMGC stadium but then moved

TW - Newtown Park but then moved

Otago - Carisbrook then the Caledonian then moved but have tried to stay at a covered location

Canty - English Park, still there.

 

I think the point is more that the standards of the competition has not been upheld but really its all semantics....


 


Cleary incorrect regarding YHM and Otago Utd
So wherever my head is its still able to notice your mistakes
well please speak up and articulate your vast correctness on these two locations.


Otago started at Carisbrook (covered), moved to the Caledonian (covered) then to Sunnyvale (not covered) then to Tahuna (covered) and then Forsyth Barr and I think they split it with the Cale. So they have moved but tried to stay at a covered location.

Yes YHM did start at Memorial like you pointed out and moved to FMGC and then back to Memorial. Both are covered.

April 29, 2013 23:37 · Edited April 29, 2013 23:38
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Trueblue wrote:

Uli Stieleke wrote:

2013 OFC Champions League
Semi-Final Leg 1, Official Confirmation:
Auckland City FC vs Ba FC
Sunday 5 May 2013
3pm KO
Kiwitea Street, Sandringham, Auckland

That's good news then. My advice - get there early! Perhaps JV, who admits he doesn't like Kiwitea Street, might like to vacate his spot to a Ba fan who will probably thoroughly enjoy the best little ground in the country, not to mention the excellent steak sandwiches and passionate fans..

I have been to more than a few games there. Just personally don't like the atmosphere but that's just me. I haven't been to any of the O League games and probably won't while NRFL is on.
April 29, 2013 23:46
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R&C wrote:

Hard News wrote:

 In season 1 Team Wellington played at Newtown park which has a lovely stand.


Granted, but it wasnt purpose built by the franchise to gain entry in the competion which I believe is the point FU BLU is making

I attended a couple of those early TW vs ACFC games at Newtown Park and thought the facilities were good and the atmosphere enjoyable. It's a pity TW now has to resort to Miramar's open ground for financial reasons.

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