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Auckland City FC - Thanks a Trillion

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over 9 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

I was at the Suburbs/Auckland game last night and whilst it is only a pre-season game it was probably the owrst Auckland display I have seen in three years of watching them. yes Suburbs bullied them a little in the first half but were certainly the better team (and they still have Burfoot to add to their midfield yet). Second half Auckland had a lot more of the ball but couldnt out their few chances away and just didnt look comfortable!

Its going to be a very interesting season as a lot of teams will now fancy their chances against Auckland and I fully expect to see a highly competative league.

And Dyer to add to midfield....

Add Lewis and Hudson -TW to City's midfield. Plus a fit Riera.

true but surely Riera will play instead of Hudson-TW

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over 9 years ago

There is a very real possibility that the game between Auckland and Suburbs could see Lewis, Hudson W and Dyer all on the bench with Burfoot and Payne starting (for suburbs)!

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

"I am a fulltime pro. It's an okay contract, I have a right allsvensk salary. A really good Superettan pay one might describe it. (And you can) make it through to the A-League (where) the salary is much higher. ...  There's a lot to do here (apart from) the football. You can bungee jump from the Sky Tower (and ) there are nice beaches too. It's sick beautiful scenery. Now it's winter but in summer it'll be sick nicely on the beaches so I'm looking forward. I'm glad I took the chance."

- 25 yr-old ex Malmo FF and onetime FC Bochum starlet Armin Pasagic, last night's double scorer for Suburbs v ACFC, on the attractions of leaving Swedish football to come play in NZ's National League.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 9 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

I was at the Suburbs/Auckland game last night and whilst it is only a pre-season game it was probably the owrst Auckland display I have seen in three years of watching them. yes Suburbs bullied them a little in the first half but were certainly the better team (and they still have Burfoot to add to their midfield yet). Second half Auckland had a lot more of the ball but couldnt out their few chances away and just didnt look comfortable!

Its going to be a very interesting season as a lot of teams will now fancy their chances against Auckland and I fully expect to see a highly competative league.

And Dyer to add to midfield....

Add Lewis and Hudson -TW to City's midfield. Plus a fit Riera.

true but surely Riera will play instead of Hudson-TW

Both. Betcha.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 9 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Jerzy Merino wrote:

Sunseeker wrote:

I was at the Suburbs/Auckland game last night and whilst it is only a pre-season game it was probably the owrst Auckland display I have seen in three years of watching them. yes Suburbs bullied them a little in the first half but were certainly the better team (and they still have Burfoot to add to their midfield yet). Second half Auckland had a lot more of the ball but couldnt out their few chances away and just didnt look comfortable!

Its going to be a very interesting season as a lot of teams will now fancy their chances against Auckland and I fully expect to see a highly competative league.

And Dyer to add to midfield....

Add Lewis and Hudson -TW to City's midfield. Plus a fit Riera.

true but surely Riera will play instead of Hudson-TW

Both. Betcha.

then you have Riera and Bilen plus one other?

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over 9 years ago

              Zubikarai

Berlanga Dordevic Kim Iwata

                Riera

   Hudson-Wihongi Bilen

Lea'alafa                 De Vries

               Moreira

swap out one midfielder for Lewis, maybe Mario...

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over 9 years ago

no foreing rule this season? i'm trying to figure out AC numbers

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over 9 years ago

Harry Edge then.

Express Football Special Calling At

Fratton Park - Champion Hill - Kiwitea St

And all away grounds inbetween.

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over 9 years ago

Aza wrote:

no foreing rule this season? i'm trying to figure out AC numbers

Foreign player rule is based on squad not starting XI (ie 50% of squad must be eligible to play for NZ)

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over 9 years ago

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/National-League-Regulations-_Season-2016-2017.pdf

19.10 The Start List must include a minimum number of New Zealand Players, which:

  • In the case of the league and The Championship Semi-finals shall be a minimum of 8 Players; or
  • In the case of The Championship Grand Final, shall be a minimum of 9 Players.

1.1.10 NZP: New Zealand Player, being a player who holds New Zealand citizenship.

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over 9 years ago

Start list is the match day squad (up to 16 for league games, 18 for the final)

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over 9 years ago

Balbi wrote:

              Zubikarai

Berlanga Dordevic Kim Iwata

                Riera

   Hudson-Wihongi Bilen

Lea'alafa                 De Vries

               Moreira

swap out one midfielder for Lewis, maybe Mario...

Im not sure that Hudson-Wihongi is mobile enough to play anywhere but holding so probably lewis next to Bilen although he has also played Tade in midfield!

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

                  Zubikarai

Berlanga    Hudson-W   Dordevic  Iwata

                       Riera

              Lewis           Tavano

Lea'alafa                             De Vries

                  Moreira/Tade/

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 9 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

                  Zubikarai

Berlanga    Hudson-W   Dordevic  Iwata

                       Riera

              Lewis           Tavano

Lea'alafa                             De Vries

                  Moreira/Tade/

Big call..... Cant see it myself. I know he loves Mario and really cant see Hudson-W as centre back but we will see!!

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over 9 years ago

Jerzy Merino wrote:

"I am a fulltime pro. It's an okay contract, I have a right allsvensk salary. A really good Superettan pay one might describe it. (And you can) make it through to the A-League (where) the salary is much higher. ...  There's a lot to do here (apart from) the football. You can bungee jump from the Sky Tower (and ) there are nice beaches too. It's sick beautiful scenery. Now it's winter but in summer it'll be sick nicely on the beaches so I'm looking forward. I'm glad I took the chance."

- 25 yr-old ex Malmo FF and onetime FC Bochum starlet Armin Pasagic, last night's double scorer for Suburbs v ACFC, on the attractions of leaving Swedish football to come play in NZ's National League.

Sick, dude!

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over 9 years ago

The problem with ACFC is too many foreigners, not enough spaces. From that list above, I can count at least 11? Not every one can play when you can only play 8

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 9 years ago

ACFC player development is a disgrace the Kiwi's that they have in the squad are enticed by the money and the lure of the fifa club world cup and used to sit on the bench most weeks to make up the NZ quota They don't give a toss about development and it starts at very top chairman down every player has been poached from other NZ franchises, other oceania clubs or from arond the world, but if NZ Football allow it good on them but the bottom line is they play lip service to development.

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over 9 years ago

i don't mind. they're lifting the standard and taking a few kiwis along with them

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over 9 years ago

Too many foreigners grumble grumble grumble.. All I hear is a bunch of cry babies throwing their toys around for why they can't get to CWC. You guys are starting to think like Donald Trump. ACFC have lifted the standard of the league, given NZF and the clubs a decent sized payout in 2014 and foreigners like Riera can show the locals around here a thing or two about playing a certain position. Sure some can be duds and some don't deserve to be there in place of locals this is sport and it happens. Auckland is a very multi-ethnic city so it shouldn't be surprising to see many foreigners playing at these clubs. And because Maori were here before all you lot (assuming you arn't maori) everyone is a bloody foreigner.

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over 9 years ago

Most weren't living here most were brought in and yes Auckland is a multi ethnic city and its great but count the number of foreign players that have come and gone in the last five years and you might change your mind. Ramon and the club don't care about development its called tunnel vision .If the quota rule wasn't there I would imagine the whole squad would be foreigners.

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over 9 years ago

Sancho wrote:

Too many foreigners grumble grumble grumble.. All I hear is a bunch of cry babies throwing their toys around for why they can't get to CWC. You guys are starting to think like Donald Trump. ACFC have lifted the standard of the league, given NZF and the clubs a decent sized payout in 2014 and foreigners like Riera can show the locals around here a thing or two about playing a certain position. Sure some can be duds and some don't deserve to be there in place of locals this is sport and it happens. Auckland is a very multi-ethnic city so it shouldn't be surprising to see many foreigners playing at these clubs. And because Maori were here before all you lot (assuming you arn't maori) everyone is a bloody foreigner.

You really are an arse.

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over 9 years ago
At least there's another Auckland team now that might be able to put a few more kiwis on the park. Might get more support of they do too.

Fuck this stupid game

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over 9 years ago

You can't blame ACFC for assembling the best team they can within the squad restrictions imposed by NZF. If you think there's too many foreigners then blame NZF for imposing the rules, not the clubs which are playing within those rules.

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over 9 years ago

As a foreigner (Wellingtonian) myself, I will support whichever Auckland SSP team fields the most foreigners.


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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

Questions must be asked regarding foreigners and who's paying the bill, and at what expense, and critique should not be confused with playing the blame game.

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over 9 years ago

why the assumption that things are not being done right?

it's a bit of a tired topic and if you're that interested read this thread from the beginning because it has all the answers, plus all of the debate

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over 9 years ago

reg22 wrote:

why the assumption that things are not being done right?

it's a bit of a tired topic and if you're that interested read this thread from the beginning because it has all the answers, plus all of the debate

Those of you whom are instantly taking the defensive are the ones pushing that assumption.

This is the internet, we're not short of bandwidth so if I ask the question and people are willing to have the discussion then so be it. No one forces you to contribute.

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over 9 years ago · edited over 9 years ago · History

20 Legend wrote:

reg22 wrote:

why the assumption that things are not being done right?

it's a bit of a tired topic and if you're that interested read this thread from the beginning because it has all the answers, plus all of the debate

Those of you whom are instantly taking the defensive are the ones pushing that assumption.

This is the internet, we're not short of bandwidth so if I ask the question and people are willing to have the discussion then so be it. No one forces you to contribute.

fair enough, it's not up to me what people talk about of course.

but maybe start a new thread so those who choose not to wade through piles of the same old dross can choose not to?

good luck with your crusade

and btw, you can put me in the 'don't give a rats' category rather than the defensive

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over 9 years ago

I fundamentally do not have an issue with ACFC now because the rules are there and the same for everyone one and their success at CWC level has allowed to PAY those players (do not dress it up as anything otherwise). Personally, I would reduce it to 5. However when you take into account that you have to play 8 of the 16 on match day as Kiwis, and they have 11 foreigners, you have 3 each week that do nothing, and are getting paid, and that could be just as easily be done by a KIWI for NOTHING and being DEVELOPED. 

All for them fielding their quota but there gets to a point when a bit ridiculous even though they are playing by the rules.

I liken it to the rich guy that has a Ferrari in his garage. Good on him and then he has 4 others parked in the other garage that never get used and you just say 'what is the point'. In the end, you know at CWC, all 11 of those players will start and Kiwis will not get a look in and again, thats within the rules.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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over 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

I fundamentally do not have an issue with ACFC now because the rules are there and the same for everyone one and their success at CWC level has allowed to PAY those players (do not dress it up as anything otherwise). Personally, I would reduce it to 5. However when you take into account that you have to play 8 of the 16 on match day as Kiwis, and they have 11 foreigners, you have 3 each week that do nothing, and are getting paid, and that could be just as easily be done by a KIWI for NOTHING and being DEVELOPED. 

All for them fielding their quota but there gets to a point when a bit ridiculous even though they are playing by the rules.

I liken it to the rich guy that has a Ferrari in his garage. Good on him and then he has 4 others parked in the other garage that never get used and you just say 'what is the point'. In the end, you know at CWC, all 11 of those players will start and Kiwis will not get a look in and again, thats within the rules.

"At the end of the drive the lawmen arrive...

I'll take my chance because luck is on my side or something...

Her name is Rio, she don't need to understand...

Oh Rio, Rio, hear them shout across the land..."

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over 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

I fundamentally do not have an issue with ACFC now because the rules are there and the same for everyone one and their success at CWC level has allowed to PAY those players (do not dress it up as anything otherwise). Personally, I would reduce it to 5. However when you take into account that you have to play 8 of the 16 on match day as Kiwis, and they have 11 foreigners, you have 3 each week that do nothing, and are getting paid, and that could be just as easily be done by a KIWI for NOTHING and being DEVELOPED. 

All for them fielding their quota but there gets to a point when a bit ridiculous even though they are playing by the rules.

I liken it to the rich guy that has a Ferrari in his garage. Good on him and then he has 4 others parked in the other garage that never get used and you just say 'what is the point'. In the end, you know at CWC, all 11 of those players will start and Kiwis will not get a look in and again, thats within the rules.

I think its the same for 'o' League as well with no restrictions but am happy to be corrected on that. It does seem crazy that last season Ivan Viselich was on the bench for a few games simply to make up the quota of Kiwi players even though he had pretty much retired!

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over 9 years ago

Jeff Vader wrote:

I fundamentally do not have an issue with ACFC now because the rules are there and the same for everyone one and their success at CWC level has allowed to PAY those players (do not dress it up as anything otherwise). Personally, I would reduce it to 5. However when you take into account that you have to play 8 of the 16 on match day as Kiwis, and they have 11 foreigners, you have 3 each week that do nothing, and are getting paid, and that could be just as easily be done by a KIWI for NOTHING and being DEVELOPED. 

All for them fielding their quota but there gets to a point when a bit ridiculous even though they are playing by the rules.

I liken it to the rich guy that has a Ferrari in his garage. Good on him and then he has 4 others parked in the other garage that never get used and you just say 'what is the point'. In the end, you know at CWC, all 11 of those players will start and Kiwis will not get a look in and again, thats within the rules.

They might be working out the existing terms of a previous agreement? Just speculating...

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over 9 years ago

Thanks to expansion teams less this now. More kiwi in SSP - even Moses is at SSP level now thanks to expansion - Burns got a gig to save career - howieson and payne the wonderkids at 17 journeyman at 22 have chance to reignite their AW aspirations - go TW anywho.

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over 9 years ago

What happened with the Godfather? He's not listed in Auckland City's squad for the game against Waitakere. Retired?

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over 9 years ago

Argie96 wrote:

What happened with the Godfather? He's not listed in Auckland City's squad for the game against Waitakere. Retired?

yes retired from playing, but will still be on the bench as assistant coach to Ramon

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over 9 years ago

Are there any radio streams that are covering Auckland City's match today and/or the SS Premiership in general? I assume there are no video streams online but I'm more than happy with just radio if anybody knows.

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over 9 years ago
I would expect City to fudge Waitakere by 4

Grumpy old bastard alert

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