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el grapadura wrote:

LSA2SB wrote:

TreeFiddy wrote:

20 Legend wrote:

TreeFiddy wrote:

Conger - still shark

Were you one of the three salty NRFL referees sitting near the benches moaning about every decision?

Nope, but Conger's terrible.

Never understood the Conger hate, is it because he is a referee or do people think he is worst than other NZ referees? Is it just because you see him refereeing more often? Or is it Tall Poppy because he actually is quite successful as a ref.

People that are in the know, including FIFA referee selection panels must see something different as he keeps getting games at tournaments. I mean he just refereed the Superclásico de las Américas between Brazil and Argentina recently too. 

FIFA refereeing selection is based on giving opportunity and exposure to all confederations. So just like Solomon Islands aren't a superpower at U20 level because they played at the U20 World Cup, neither is Conger a quality international referee. He may well be the top rated referee in the confederation, but as I said, that's the equivalent of winning the tallest dwarf competition. Besides Conger is nowhere near good enough as O'Leary or Hester, and they were both well below average as international referees.

Sure I get that and maybe saying he is the best is subjective but he still has to do enough to get selected and he is the one getting selected from NZ admittedly small selection pool to do those games.

Anyway, this isn't a refereeing thread. Back to criticising Auckland City instead.

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Most stacked squad in the continent just got more stacked. Emiliano Tade and Tom Doyle

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mrsmiis wrote:

Most stacked squad in the continent just got more stacked. Emiliano Tade and Tom Doyle



Just to endorse haha

 https://oceaniafootballcenter.home.blog/2020/01/09...
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Auckland Football Federation (AFF) confirmed on Monday the affiliation of Auckland City FC and Auckland United FC to AFF for the coming 2020 winter season.

Auckland City FC snapshot

  • Affiliation status: National League member club (under NZ Football National League Moving Forward structure)
  • Club partnership: working with Central Utd FC
  • Pathway presence:
    • National League Club License
    • Delivering Skills Centres & Fun Football Centres
    • Implementing NZF Talent Development Programme – LOTTO NRFL Youth competition involvement and working towards Youth Club License accreditation
    • Futsal Skills Centre
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A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

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can someone smarter than me outline what this means?

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2ndBest wrote:

can someone smarter than me outline what this means?

The mandates of NZF's latest competitons review coming to fruition.

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chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

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chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

Why?

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So what will happen to, say, a Cam Howieson at 3KU?

Bit difficult for a guy two years deep into uni to wrap his head around the semantics lol

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mrsmiis wrote:

So what will happen to, say, a Cam Howieson at 3KU?

Bit difficult for a guy two years deep into uni to wrap his head around the semantics lol

NZ Football really needs to hurry up and provide some more detail on the new setup.

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imagine it’s July, preseason has started for the EPL sides, transfers all done yet Norwich or Watford don’t know if they’ve even been relegated yet. bit shark really

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mrsmiis wrote:

So what will happen to, say, a Cam Howieson at 3KU?

Bit difficult for a guy two years deep into uni to wrap his head around the semantics lol

NZ Football really needs to hurry up and provide some more detail on the new setup.

Though it is a fact players can still transfer from NL clubs to RL clubs at end of season.

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chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

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If I recall correctly - was their not a federation pushing for a cap on Handi players in one club?

ACFC is now an official all year club, would this circumvent this restriction if implemented?

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mrsmiis wrote:

imagine it’s July, preseason has started for the EPL sides, transfers all done yet Norwich or Watford don’t know if they’ve even been relegated yet. bit shark really

Well they have been. Until they haven’t. Isn’t it a lucky bonus for a team who lost a playoff or got relegated to be called into the top league? Whinging about it is a bit rich (ie Claudelands)

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

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Feverish wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

imagine it’s July, preseason has started for the EPL sides, transfers all done yet Norwich or Watford don’t know if they’ve even been relegated yet. bit shark really

Well they have been. Until they haven’t. Isn’t it a lucky bonus for a team who lost a playoff or got relegated to be called into the top league? Whinging about it is a bit rich (ie Claudelands)

In terms of putting a squad together, fair to say there's a big difference between the northern premier league and the waibop women's league. If they're in the latter, they'd get a fair few more players than if they're in the latter.

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

alright - if you think that's pathway success (even though some of them were 1 season only players in NYL and from other clubs) then cool - case closed, nothing to see here.

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

alright - if you think that's pathway success (even though some of them were 1 season only players in NYL and from other clubs) then cool - case closed, nothing to see here.

It's as much a success as importing a whole team to win the National League!

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

Clayton Lewis has always been a Wellington kid and it was Neil Emblen who had Myer Bevan in at the Springs 1st team.
No way ACFC can take credit for those two. TAHW was Onehunga Sports if I remember correctly.
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2ndBest wrote:

can someone smarter than me outline what this means?

Did we get an answer to this? If no, I'm keen to hear...if yes...can you explain in simple man terms

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

alright - if you think that's pathway success (even though some of them were 1 season only players in NYL and from other clubs) then cool - case closed, nothing to see here.

It's as much a success as importing a whole team to win the National League!

completely agree on that point - dosn't make either of them right.

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Feverish wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

imagine it’s July, preseason has started for the EPL sides, transfers all done yet Norwich or Watford don’t know if they’ve even been relegated yet. bit shark really

Well they have been. Until they haven’t. Isn’t it a lucky bonus for a team who lost a playoff or got relegated to be called into the top league? Whinging about it is a bit rich (ie Claudelands)

In terms of putting a squad together, fair to say there's a big difference between the northern premier league and the waibop women's league. If they're in the latter, they'd get a fair few more players than if they're in the latter.

(not sure you wrote  that right) but who cares? They DIDN'T earn promotion. If by chance an invitation comes later they can choose to accept it or turn it down. 

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Feverish wrote:

Feverish wrote:

mrsmiis wrote:

imagine it’s July, preseason has started for the EPL sides, transfers all done yet Norwich or Watford don’t know if they’ve even been relegated yet. bit shark really

Well they have been. Until they haven’t. Isn’t it a lucky bonus for a team who lost a playoff or got relegated to be called into the top league? Whinging about it is a bit rich (ie Claudelands)

In terms of putting a squad together, fair to say there's a big difference between the northern premier league and the waibop women's league. If they're in the latter, they'd get a fair few more players than if they're in the latter.

(not sure you wrote  that right) but who cares? They DIDN'T earn promotion. If by chance an invitation comes later they can choose to accept it or turn it down. 

(you're right) I agree on that point. But can understand why the Claudelandses of the world are pissed this has taken so long to sort (it was ratified by the clubs mid-November?).

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

alright - if you think that's pathway success (even though some of them were 1 season only players in NYL and from other clubs) then cool - case closed, nothing to see here.

It's as much a success as importing a whole team to win the National League!

They gave those players a chance to play NL football, winning was just a byproduct.

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Tyler wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

can someone smarter than me outline what this means?

Did we get an answer to this? If no, I'm keen to hear...if yes...can you explain in simple man terms

Sort of - this expands on what Andrew Voerman posted

from Section 5 of the NZF document National League moving forward 2021 and beyond

"To ensure the national league continues to support and drive player development, New Zealand Football shall amend its Club Licensing Regulations so that clubs participating in the national league are required to, either directly or indirectly through a partnership approved by New Zealand Football and the relevant federation, operate a second team (development team) in a regional league and/or implement a player development programme."

Auckland City affiliating with AFF and using Central as their partnership team is just the first one to do it

Would likely expect to see Hawkes Bay United and Napier link up and Team Wellington and Miramar

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

alright - if you think that's pathway success (even though some of them were 1 season only players in NYL and from other clubs) then cool - case closed, nothing to see here.

It's as much a success as importing a whole team to win the National League!

They gave those players a chance to play NL football, winning was just a byproduct.

several of those players were already playing National League football

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I think this is actually about ACFC having a 13th & 14th grade metro teams & futsal team as part of their academy and pathway.

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Tyler wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

can someone smarter than me outline what this means?

Did we get an answer to this? If no, I'm keen to hear...if yes...can you explain in simple man terms

Sort of - this expands on what Andrew Voerman posted

from Section 5 of the NZF document National League moving forward 2021 and beyond

"To ensure the national league continues to support and drive player development, New Zealand Football shall amend its Club Licensing Regulations so that clubs participating in the national league are required to, either directly or indirectly through a partnership approved by New Zealand Football and the relevant federation, operate a second team (development team) in a regional league and/or implement a player development programme."

Auckland City affiliating with AFF and using Central as their partnership team is just the first one to do it

Would likely expect to see Hawkes Bay United and Napier link up and Team Wellington and Miramar

So what team will be playing in the Northern League (the Regional League) - will it be Auckland City or Central.  If it is to be Central, their players will be registered to Auckland City, so how does that work.  NZF Regs say that you cannot be registered for more than one club

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chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

chopah wrote:

A lot of unhappy campers in the AFF area about this call.

why's that?

I thought it just formalises what was happening anyway with the connection between ACFC & Central United

Is it any different to what Eastern Suburbs & Hamilton Wanderers have with National League licences?

Player Poaching by using the brand of Auckland City which suggests a pathway from NRFL Youth to National League that we all know isn't there.

At least Suburbs do actually put some of the players they have poached at NYL and U17's level into their NL team.

No pathway? Looking at their current squad Maro Bonsu-Maro, Myer Bevan, Cameron Brown (GK) and Clayton Lewis all played in the NYL for Auckland City as did Te Atawhai Hudson-Wihongi

alright - if you think that's pathway success (even though some of them were 1 season only players in NYL and from other clubs) then cool - case closed, nothing to see here.

It's as much a success as importing a whole team to win the National League!

They gave those players a chance to play NL football, winning was just a byproduct.

several of those players were already playing National League football

Touche. The idea behind it definitely wasn't 'to win the national league'.

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JJ wrote:

Tyler wrote:

2ndBest wrote:

can someone smarter than me outline what this means?

Did we get an answer to this? If no, I'm keen to hear...if yes...can you explain in simple man terms

Sort of - this expands on what Andrew Voerman posted

from Section 5 of the NZF document National League moving forward 2021 and beyond

"To ensure the national league continues to support and drive player development, New Zealand Football shall amend its Club Licensing Regulations so that clubs participating in the national league are required to, either directly or indirectly through a partnership approved by New Zealand Football and the relevant federation, operate a second team (development team) in a regional league and/or implement a player development programme."

Auckland City affiliating with AFF and using Central as their partnership team is just the first one to do it

Would likely expect to see Hawkes Bay United and Napier link up and Team Wellington and Miramar

So what team will be playing in the Northern League (the Regional League) - will it be Auckland City or Central.  If it is to be Central, their players will be registered to Auckland City, so how does that work.  NZF Regs say that you cannot be registered for more than one club

Central.

Hard to assess other matters until NZF releases more detail on its new men's leagues format.

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Any tried to watch this game? Japanese porn would more visible than this match.

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Sancho wrote:

Any tried to watch this game? Japanese porn would more visible than this match.

I gave up pretty quickly. When the steam is so bad tout can't tell the difference between Kaltak and Bevan, it's not worth watching. 

I'll take the 6-0 beating of Ricky Herbert though. 

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Yeah - I gave up too. Stream was awful. Fijian "club" (they are district teams rather than clubs) football seems to be going backwards. Lautoka got beat 8-0 in one of the other groups and TW beat Ba 8-0 a few years back.

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Sancho wrote:

Any tried to watch this game? Japanese porn would more visible than this match.

I see what you did there :-)

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Better resolution (than the stream) 4 mins highlights:

Opinion Privileges revoked
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Worth it to hear hilarious French pronunciations of ACFC player names

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These refs are actually shocking.

Goal scoring opportunity, keeper out of the box, hand balls it, yellow card ?

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