AUCKLAND CITY FC - TEAM SPONSORSHIP FUND
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AUCKLAND CITY FC - TEAM SPONSORSHIP FUND
Auckland City FC has qualified for the FIFA Club World Cup UAE 2009 as the representative team of the Oceania Football Confederation. We are the only amateur club that will participate at this prestigious event which will crown FIFA's world champion club side for 2009.
A New Zealand team has never won a match at this tournament and this is the challenge that the club has set itself for the campaign. To give ourselves the best possible preparation the team will travel to Qatar for a training camp and warm up match before heading onto Abu Dhabi for the tournament.
As part of this dedicated effort our players will be in camp full-time for at least two weeks over the course of the trip and some will be taking unpaid leave from their respective occupations. To assist the players and their families in this regard, we are organising a Team Sponsorship Fund that will be used to assist these players.
Here is your chance to sponsor a player or team official to the tune of $500 or part thereof. You could alternatively form a syndicate with a few friends to sponsor one of our squad.
A New Zealand team has never won a match at this tournament and this is the challenge that the club has set itself for the campaign. To give ourselves the best possible preparation the team will travel to Qatar for a training camp and warm up match before heading onto Abu Dhabi for the tournament.
As part of this dedicated effort our players will be in camp full-time for at least two weeks over the course of the trip and some will be taking unpaid leave from their respective occupations. To assist the players and their families in this regard, we are organising a Team Sponsorship Fund that will be used to assist these players.
Here is your chance to sponsor a player or team official to the tune of $500 or part thereof. You could alternatively form a syndicate with a few friends to sponsor one of our squad.
All sponsors will be recognised on our website and also on a commemorative plaque which will be displayed in our clubrooms. If you are able to make a contribution to the Sponsorship Fund your generosity will be greatly appreciated by our club.
For further details contact Auckland City FC Board Member, Colin Cook on
Squad Member Sponsored by
1) Jacob Spoonley Scarbro Construction
2) Kris Carpenter Yamami (Japan)
3) Ian Hogg Aspec Limited
4) Sam Campbell Victor Mrkusich
5) Matt Williams City Build
6) Ki-Hyung Lee Mohamed Mohamed
7) James Pritchett Canam Construction
8) Chad Coombes Frank Kumerich
9) Paul Urlovic Steve & Matt Vuksich
10) Grant Young Ivan Vuksich
11) Daniel Koprivcic Bob Vicelich & Nick Didovich
12) Greg Walters
13) Alex Feneridis Collinson Forex
14) Keryn Jordan Gee Gees Bar & Brasserie
15) Ivan Vicelich Paul Marinovich & Family
16) Jason Hayne 90.2 The Rock
17) Adam McGeorge Renovo Limited (Shaun O'Mara)
18) Paul Gothard "Welcome Homes Turkey" - Brian, Jack, Katy & Cleo
19) Jacob Mathews
20) Greg Uhlmann Dick Mrkusich
21) Riki van Steeden Nick Lupis (London)
22) Adam Dickinson Amstar Interiors
23) Ricardo Monardez Posa Architects (Greg Posa)
24) Pasquale Polistina Simply Stopping
25) Milosh Nikolic Teak Construction
26) Adam Thomas
27) Thomas Spragg NZ Strong
28) Daniel Morgan Macrennie Construction
29) Rory Kelly Scope Projects Construction
30) Aaron Bawdekar
Head Coach: Paul Posa Scarbro Construction
Asst. Coach: Ramon Tribulietx
Asst. Coach: Stipe Saric Graham Family
Logistics Mgr: David Stringer Marion Carpenter
Propery Steward: Arthur Egan George Franich & Ian Uhlmann
Physio: Katherine Ludbrook
Physio: Andrew Newmarch Collinson Forex
GK Coach: Simon Eaddy Honey NZ
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AUCKLAND CITY FC - TEAM SPONSORSHIP FUND
Auckland City FC has qualified for the FIFA Club World Cup UAE 2009 as the representative team of the Oceania Football Confederation. We are the only officially amateur club that will participate at this prestigious event which will crown FIFA's world champion club side for 2009.
Fixed.
Incredible stamina. No shame. Yellow Fever.
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Actually its the NEW ZEALAND bit that probably confuses you most....
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What confuses me is the amount of money paid to players and you still want handouts?? Why would Lee and Vicilich need sponsorship when they are making 50 & 70k. Its not like they are taking two weeks off work when they are already professional footballers youth coaches and are paid by the club. Thats the part I find confusing...
If they can get it, good on them, but still don't see the need - even under the guise of 'sponsorship'
Jeff Vader2009-11-04 18:58:43
If they can get it, good on them, but still don't see the need - even under the guise of 'sponsorship'
Jeff Vader2009-11-04 18:58:43
Grumpy old bastard alert
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why are they taking 30 players for one match?
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When you are playing several lead-up matches in the region to try and condition the side to make the most of the opportunity for your confederation and local community, why wouldn't you take 30 players?
Unlike previous attempts, this team is spending more than the prizemoney that they have been paid on the pre-tournament tour to try and give themselves the best chance of a win.
Having some involvement and seeing the amount of work that everyone puts in behind the scenes, I can't complement the club enough for their approach to this.
Unlike previous attempts, this team is spending more than the prizemoney that they have been paid on the pre-tournament tour to try and give themselves the best chance of a win.
Having some involvement and seeing the amount of work that everyone puts in behind the scenes, I can't complement the club enough for their approach to this.
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why are they taking 30 players for one match?
on the donut
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I would like to sponsor Arthur Egan. It would be embarrassing to send a football team overseas to play a game of football without a property steward. Frankie Mac2009-11-06 00:14:58
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When you are playing several lead-up matches in the region to try and condition the side to make the most of the opportunity for your confederation and local community, why wouldn't you take 30 players?
Unlike previous attempts, this team is spending more than the prizemoney that they have been paid on the pre-tournament tour to try and give themselves the best chance of a win.
Having some involvement and seeing the amount of work that everyone puts in behind the scenes, I can't complement the club enough for their approach to this.
Unlike previous attempts, this team is spending more than the prizemoney that they have been paid on the pre-tournament tour to try and give themselves the best chance of a win.
Having some involvement and seeing the amount of work that everyone puts in behind the scenes, I can't complement the club enough for their approach to this.
But that's a bigger squad than you'd take to the football world cup, that's nearly three teams for probably one game. When costs are an issue why waste money like that? I understand the ambition but it seems ridiculous
I have to say I find the obsession with the CWC a little odd. The best Auckland City can hope for is a solitary victory before elimination at the hands of a more professional club in a potentially embarassing mismatch on the world stage (and that is not a criticism but a factor of the relative strengths of the clubs). More likely they will lose the first match and head home. Again, no shame there. They are not in the same league as these teams, not even in the same universe so why pretend and try and compete other than ego and an overinflated sense of their position in the overall scheme of the footballing world? I mean the club is on here looking for handouts to subsidise the wages of the players who by and large have day jobs...
While an exciting tie for those involved isn't there better ways to spend this money at club level including developing the infrastructure to improve the club going forward? If as you suggest Adam that this preparation is actually costing the club money then again the issue of trust funding rears its ugly head.
I don't know, I don't really see the point in Oceania teams being in the CWC other than the prize money which although is useful income for NZFC clubs, has distorted the competition to some extent. I dunno what to think I guess...I like that AC and Waitakere have tried to raise the bar - if all of the franchises were at their level the NZFC would be a pretty cool competition. I'm sure that a lot of people have worked really hard on this but maybe I think this is a step too far - I'm not sure that this is a particularly great project to focus on from an outsider's perspective (but then I'm not a member of the club so it has nothing to do with me).
Anyway, good luck
james dean2009-11-06 06:56:00Normo's coming home
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Some fair points Normo - but a little short sighted which is understandable as you're not au fait with the goings-on at the club.
Ultimately, you have to cling to what hope you have - and that is getting a victory. It's a huge experience for all players involved, and it's the biggest thing that the majority of players will ever experience n their career - therefore I can understand the hype and obsession around it. It's also the only opportunity for any NZ club to perform on a world stage against some of the best players around. Yes, they will get beaten - but surely going over there and giving it everything is much better than having a defeatist attitude and not going at all?
As far as ACFC goes, they spend a huge amount of money that they fundraise through the local community on infrastructure and youth development. They have the best football ground in the country and 8 of the U17s come from Central United's youth development programme - I don't think anyone can argue that they don't invest enough of their prizemoney in infrastructure.
The fact that they're fundraising player wage subsidies should be pretty obvious that they're not spending their prizemoney on player wages and bonuses - it's being spent of the development of the club. That in itself, blunts your argument.
Waitakere - and anyone else who makes the CWC - could learn a lesson or two from ACFC on infrastructure development.
As far as prizemoney distorting the competition, what do you think Auckland did before the CWC came along? They are the only club I have seen at this level that has a huge groundswell of local community support behind them, with literally hundreds of people out there fundraising and working for the club for nothing - plus they provide a professional and serious environment for the playing staff. The U17 squad numbers are the fruits of their last CWC prizemoney coming through becuase it was invested in infrastructure.
Every other franchise has similar opportunity to raise money within their local community, but it's a hard and thankless job and they simply don't get enough volunteers. ACFC doesn't have a Rex Dawkins pumping money into the club, they have done it through hard graft. Don't get me wrong, the CWC money helps - but let's not forget the other franchises get a decent cut of that moeny (I think it's around $30k) which they do nothing for.
It's easy to point the finger from afar, but other franchises could learn a lot.
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Some fair points Normo - but a little short sighted which is understandable as you're not au fait with the goings-on at the club.
Ultimately, you have to cling to what hope you have - and that is getting a victory. It's a huge experience for all players involved, and it's the biggest thing that the majority of players will ever experience n their career - therefore I can understand the hype and obsession around it. It's also the only opportunity for any NZ club to perform on a world stage against some of the best players around. Yes, they will get beaten - but surely going over there and giving it everything is much better than having a defeatist attitude and not going at all?
As far as ACFC goes, they spend a huge amount of money that they fundraise through the local community on infrastructure and youth development. They have the best football ground in the country and 8 of the U17s come from Central United's youth development programme - I don't think anyone can argue that they don't invest enough of their prizemoney in infrastructure.
The fact that they're fundraising player wage subsidies should be pretty obvious that they're not spending their prizemoney on player wages and bonuses - it's being spent of the development of the club. That in itself, blunts your argument.
Waitakere - and anyone else who makes the CWC - could learn a lesson or two from ACFC on infrastructure development.
As far as prizemoney distorting the competition, what do you think Auckland did before the CWC came along? They are the only club I have seen at this level that has a huge groundswell of local community support behind them, with literally hundreds of people out there fundraising and working for the club for nothing - plus they provide a professional and serious environment for the playing staff. The U17 squad numbers are the fruits of their last CWC prizemoney coming through becuase it was invested in infrastructure.
Every other franchise has similar opportunity to raise money within their local community, but it's a hard and thankless job and they simply don't get enough volunteers. ACFC doesn't have a Rex Dawkins pumping money into the club, they have done it through hard graft. Don't get me wrong, the CWC money helps - but let's not forget the other franchises get a decent cut of that moeny (I think it's around $30k) which they do nothing for.
It's easy to point the finger from afar, but other franchises could learn a lot.
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adam, check out this link under "a" before you get on your high horse about the "local communty". that's for one 6 mth period.
http://www.trillian.co.nz/files/Grant%20Publication%201.8.08%20to%2031.7.09.pdf
edit - link fix, Smithy. Smithy2009-11-06 14:09:42
http://www.trillian.co.nz/files/Grant%20Publication%201.8.08%20to%2031.7.09.pdf
edit - link fix, Smithy. Smithy2009-11-06 14:09:42
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I would like to sponsor Arthur Egan. It would be embarrassing to send a football team overseas to play a game of football without a property steward.
Arthur is a life member of NZ and Auckland Football and was the kit man for the All Whites team in '82 - a living legend in NZ Football.
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Fair point Normo - I got carried away - enough said.
Why isn't every franchise doing this??!
Why isn't every franchise doing this??!
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adam, check out this link under "a" before you get on your high horse about the "local communty". that's for one 6 mth period.
http://www.trillian.co.nz/files/Grant%20Publication%201.8.08%20to%2031.7.09.pdf
http://www.trillian.co.nz/files/Grant%20Publication%201.8.08%20to%2031.7.09.pdf
Half a million. How does one get involved in ACFC?
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To be fair - they spend a lot of money on their academy - you don't get 8 guys in the U17s without a bit of investment!
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To be fair - they spend a lot of money on their academy - you don't get 8 guys in the U17s without a bit of investment!
using handsomely paid coaches who happen to play for ACFC perhaps?
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Far out. $175k for Central United.
That's a lot of kit....
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To be fair - they spend a lot of money on their academy - you don't get 8 guys in the U17s without a bit of investment!
using handsomely paid coaches who happen to play for ACFC perhaps?
Isn't that what Wests do?! Seriously though, why aren't TW and the like doing that?
Cnut2009-11-06 16:34:45
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you trying to bounce this off?
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To be fair - they spend a lot of money on their academy - you don't get 8 guys in the U17s without a bit of investment!
Do they really develop all of these kids or do they just end up at Central to play in NIKE Cup as U15's, such as Alex Carr produced in Hamilton then was asked to play for Central in the Nike Cup. Don't think he is the only one... Adam Thomas, Estevez, both Hamilton produced.. MrWaikato2009-11-06 15:39:15
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bloodyhell the way they played at carisbrook no practice games will stop them getting dicked
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I think there are a few factors but it's not as simple as saying that the other franchises should just go out and do the same. Firstly, ACFC are playing in the OCL so they have more costs and subsequently will receive more funding. But there is also clearly a strong relationship between the trust and the club - this is not a suggestion of impropriety just that the trust had traditionally funded the club to a certain level (and Central before that and continuing), they have had success and that therefore continues (from the trust point of view they would then hope to increase the venues that use Trillian machines to increase their income).
The gaming machine trusts are generally based in Auckland which is the biggest centre and supposedly have an aim to return money to the community where the money was put in the pokies so that might be a factor. It is remarkable how much they and Waitakere receive (Billy Harris wrote an article about this a while ago but I can't find it) but I suppose it's better that it goes to Football than to other sports. I'm not sure it is as easy as Team Welly going down the road and asking for 500k. Ultimately the trusts can give money to whomever they like so long as they comply with their trust deed and the law.
On the academy thing - yes auckland city do have a good group of players in the U17s, but you'd have to expect that when they are one of two clubs in a city of 1.3m people. They've brought some good young players through so yes they must be doing something right, but also got to be kept in perspective It's not like these kids join at 9 and are now at 16 coming out of this production line of talent.
Adam, you said what did they do before the got the CWC money? Well they won the first version of the NZFC, then all of the other NZFC sides loaned them their best players to play in the qualifying tournament which they won and then they got the cash and have gone from strength to strength. ACFC do have an excellent set up but again I think it needs to be kept in perspective, that money has been a huge help and it is very difficult for other clubs to increase revenue.
As to whether or not they should do their all to go well in the CWC, personally I'm not sure that winning a game is a great trade off for the amount it costs, there's nowhere really for them to go here to bridge the gap to the next level, they're not going to go full pro which is the bare minimum they'd need to do to. But they have decided that is the next step and good luck to them, as I said before I'm not a member of the club so it's got nowt to do with me how they choose to spend their money. I still question why they need to take 38 people though, that's more players/staff than the phoenix have for a 27 game season and more than the All Whites took to the Confederations Cup which included three warm up matches and a minimum of 3 competitive games.
james dean2009-11-06 23:34:45Normo's coming home
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Also - Uli, I've completely highjacked your thread so apologies. At least it will keep appearing as an active topic!
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are any of the ACFC committee going?
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Why doesnt the prizemoney just get spread around more evenly/fairly? Then the money would go more on development,and less on 'player/coaches' or pissups before the CWC (im joking,no angst). Just pointing out that if ACFC have a bit of excess,its likely to be spent on things other than development,whereas the rest of the comp can barely stay afloat.
Spread the prizemoney = more can be spend on development. Or is it not as simple as that? (im ignorant on the fine details of the NZFC)
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well I think the teams who qualified would argue that they spent the time and effort getting there so they deserve the bulk of the prize money. What is spreading the money "fairly" is a matter of opinion really
From my reading of the relative accounts you get about 500k if you go to the CWC and the other NZFC franchises get about 40k
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Well,more closely together. I was originally going to say completely even,but yeah there has to be some incentive. It just seems like it would help a lot. CWC money making an uneven playing field,so spread the money to the other franchises more evenly. Seems too simple? Tegal2009-11-07 00:24:58
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Tegal, you've got to remember that Turkeys don't vote for christmas.
Mounting a campaign is very expesive so there has to be some incentive for the club who qualifies but it's a difficult balance. I don'[t know what the answer is and to some extent the jack is out of the box now
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Yeah well,i dont claim it to be a total solution,as i said i dont know the ins and outs. Was more putting it out there as a possibility to discuss. It does seem to me that something needs to be done,and that prizemoney is the only thing i know of that could be used as a leveller.
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Tegal, I agree, I'm only giving my views as well, I certainly don't have any answers
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Once again a few clueless green eyed people havin a pop at Central and ACFC
did you happen to look at all the other grants handed out by Trillian feverish?
like the Waikato Basketball council who received a lot of healthy grants maybe you could get involved there
also Mr Waikato the players you mention may have come from the Waikato but it was Central that
gave them the opportunity to compete at the Nike Cup (an option i assume would not off been available from a Hamilton based club) and further there development
and James Dean all the other NZFC franchises did not lend ACFC players
they got Graham Little and Che Bunce, Bryan Little and Jason Hayne signed to play and also stayed in Auckland to play the next NZFC season
and if you knew the regulations for CWC you would know they can only take 23 players anyway
so 30 wont be going
did you happen to look at all the other grants handed out by Trillian feverish?
like the Waikato Basketball council who received a lot of healthy grants maybe you could get involved there
also Mr Waikato the players you mention may have come from the Waikato but it was Central that
gave them the opportunity to compete at the Nike Cup (an option i assume would not off been available from a Hamilton based club) and further there development
and James Dean all the other NZFC franchises did not lend ACFC players
they got Graham Little and Che Bunce, Bryan Little and Jason Hayne signed to play and also stayed in Auckland to play the next NZFC season
and if you knew the regulations for CWC you would know they can only take 23 players anyway
so 30 wont be going
Do you know what nemesis means
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Happy Ted I admire the way you tell "porkies" with a straight face.We all know Kieron Jordan and Seamo were employed in mythical coaching jobs paid for by Trillian not that I blame AC for doing it but don,t take the moral high ground!! and of course Trillian had an executive box at the ground - in some quarters this would seem a conflict of interest !!
One of the Littles and Che Bunce did not stay on to play the following season - so again they did borrow them!! But it was in the rules so why not!
Re the Nike cup one would ask if the youth side of the club was so successful in a big Auckland catchment area why take kids from Waikato ?and what happened to the loyal local kids who'd represented the club previously only to be discarded when the big time beckoned!!
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Trillian are the clubs major sponsor so why would they not have use of the box at home games?
Also if you read the previous post you would see that i said that they got G Little and Che Bunce and that Bryan Little and Hayne stayed on maybe read properly next time!!!
As for Nike Cup what is your problem with that?
I actually dont know if any players came from Waikato but what if they did?
They are free to play wherever they please and are you saying that just because a kid played as a junior at Central or any other club that he should be in the team not matter what even if better players are available?
Just get over your jealousy
Also if you read the previous post you would see that i said that they got G Little and Che Bunce and that Bryan Little and Hayne stayed on maybe read properly next time!!!
As for Nike Cup what is your problem with that?
I actually dont know if any players came from Waikato but what if they did?
They are free to play wherever they please and are you saying that just because a kid played as a junior at Central or any other club that he should be in the team not matter what even if better players are available?
Just get over your jealousy
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Once again a few clueless green eyed people havin a pop at Central and ACFC
Er, more like an AC ostrich burying his head in the sand.
You seem quite reasonable in person happyted but your posts make me laugh.
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Trillian are not a major sponsor they are gaming machine charity dispensing funds from gaming machines under government dispensation.They are obligated to give fair dispensation across all sports!!
Re the kids what we're looking at is kids who play all through the season and then are dumped for a major comp - centrals call but many would say its a sh-t way to treat kids!!
I notice you kept away from the Jordan/Seamo facts.
Not that other clubs don't do the same thing but don't take the moral high ground!!
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Trillian are the clubs major sponsor so why would they not have use of the box at home games?
Ted - I'm sure even you can see the contradiction here, Trillion are NOT a sponsor!
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Re the Nike cup one would ask if the youth side of the club was so successful in a big Auckland catchment area why take kids from Waikato ?and what happened to the loyal local kids who'd represented the club previously only to be discarded when the big time beckoned!!
So you're saying we shouldn't take Ryan Nelsen to the World Cup because it's unfair on the guys who are on the fringes but do more during the normal season?
Simple rule applies - when you go to a major tournament, you pick your best team.
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Then why are Trillian on the front of the playin shirt?
as for Jordan and Seaman i have no idea of what
employment they have/had while playin for ACFC
as for Jordan and Seaman i have no idea of what
employment they have/had while playin for ACFC
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Then why are Trillian on the front of the playin shirt?
Sorry mate - you don't know what you are talking about.
Sponsorship is a company giving money to a club in return for something, be it advertising, exposure who knows. Fine for sponsors to receive benefits in return - that's the whole point
Grant money is not sponsorship. The whole point of grant money is that it is distributed to help the community at arms length, fairly in accordance with the act, and without receiving anything in return. Distribution of grant money is regulated by the Gambling Act and overseen by the DIA. It is completely against the law and spirit of the act for Grant Trusts, or those who work for them to receive any personal inducement to give money to a particular organisation. It is not sponsorship, and shouldn't be treated as such
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