Chatham Cup Restructure with ASBP Teams Included

What are the chances of better aligning the summer and winter seasons so that ALL CLUBS in New Zealand can play in the Chatham Cup?

I'd love to see my local club, Ngaruawahia AFC take on the likes of Team Wellington or ACFC in the semis/final of the oldest sports knock-out comp in NZ (Aussie too?).

If the Aussies can find a way of doing it with their numerous state leagues and the A-League why not here? 

I am aware that many players play summer-winter-summer-winter etc but like the UK these players should be classed as Cup tied i.e. play for Central in the Cup you cannot play for ACFC in the Cup.  Also the ASBP teams could be thrown in towards the end of the Winter season but prior to the ASBP season, so that clubs could use these games as a sort of pre-season (like it will be for the A-League).  I think there would be a lot more interest in the Chatham Cup if it really was the pinnacle of Kiwi football again.

For the OFC Champions Legaue you could then take the ASBP Final Winner and the Chatham Cup Final winner, and if they were both the same team either the ASBP round robin winner or the Chatham Cup final loser would be the other qualifier.

Thoughts:

The ASBP should ideally be the best players from the clubs in that region. You'd have too many instances of cup tied players. It'd be a mess.

They all do.

Can we change the title of this to include 'pipe dream' or something as the start? 

No they dont

What are the chances of better aligning the summer and winter seasons so that ALL CLUBS in New Zealand can play in the Chatham Cup?

I'd love to see my local club, Ngaruawahia AFC take on the likes of Team Wellington or ACFC in the semis/final of the oldest sports knock-out comp in NZ (Aussie too?).

If the Aussies can find a way of doing it with their numerous state leagues and the A-League why not here? 

I am aware that many players play summer-winter-summer-winter etc but like the UK these players should be classed as Cup tied i.e. play for Central in the Cup you cannot play for ACFC in the Cup.  Also the ASBP teams could be thrown in towards the end of the Winter season but prior to the ASBP season, so that clubs could use these games as a sort of pre-season (like it will be for the A-League).  I think there would be a lot more interest in the Chatham Cup if it really was the pinnacle of Kiwi football again.

For the OFC Champions Legaue you could then take the ASBP Final Winner and the Chatham Cup Final winner, and if they were both the same team either the ASBP round robin winner or the Chatham Cup final loser would be the other qualifier.

Thoughts:

No they dont

Off the top of my head..

Miramar Rangers
Naper City Rovers
Wairarapa United
Central United
Waitakare City
Cashmere Technical

Would all have a big overlap of players from summer/winter and would most likely oppose given most of them having a strong history in the cup.

The idea makes no sense at all to me.

Seeing that both the ASB prem and C/Cup are for amateur clubs/franchise. Then why does the the Chatham Cup winner not get a O-League birth?.

Are you joking?

No they dont......

Name names places.....

Ivan Vicelich, Albert Reira, Adam Dickinson, Andy Milne, Emiliona Tade, Danko Koprovic are amongst City players who spring to mind having played for Central United recently. I'm sure there are others.

No, There both amateur competition's?, with amateur sides. Why not?.

No they dont

Vicelich, Koprivcic, Milne and Tade are NOT European Imports so infact you are incorrect!

The statement made by previous poster was that all ACFC European imports play Winter football

Which is incorrect

Umm, Tade (Argentina), Reira (Spain), Dickenson (UK), Bilen (Croatia) for a start. Not all imports but a fair helping.

Argentina is not in Europe.....

And Tade was signed from Wellington which also is not in Europe....

And as I have said several times now the comment made was that ALL ACFC EUROPEAN imports play for Central

So thats EUROPEAN imports guys!!!

Souto, Marquez, Andreu, Pedro Garcia, Xaxi Rocca to name some that havent played for Central Utd.

Everyone got that now?

I know Watakere City the last couple of seasons staked their team towards the end with United players.

Anyway I'd like to see more games for the ASBP teams and as mentioned would live to see Ngaruawahia who had a very good squad last season have the chance to play the ASBP teams in some sort of meaningful comp.  

It annoys me that NZ is the only country I can think of where the nations top sides are unable to play in the top Cup competition (Wales does not count).

I know Watakere City the last couple of seasons staked their team towards the end with United players.

Anyway I'd like to see more games for the ASBP teams and as mentioned would live to see Ngaruawahia who had a very good squad last season have the chance to play the ASBP teams in some sort of meaningful comp.  

It annoys me that NZ is the only country I can think of where the nations top sides are unable to play in the top Cup competition (Wales does not count).

ASB franchises are designed for the best winter league players to join forces and compete at a higher level. I'd prefer to call them teams, rather than clubs in the true sense of the word. The chatham Cup is an historical and proud competition for all clubs in NZ and I don't think ASN franchises [or the Phoenix] should be playing in it.

Fuck you. Wales does count.

ASB franchises are designed for the best winter league players to join forces and compete at a higher level. I'd prefer to call them teams, rather than clubs in the true sense of the word. The chatham Cup is an historical and proud competition for all clubs in NZ and I don't think ASB franchises [or the Phoenix] should be playing in it.