It's all the Phoenix' fault

It's all the Phoenix' fault

How I wish Sky would cover these games.

 

That stupid picture on your profile should explain to u why they dont!!!

I'm sorry, what? The Phoenix and the fact that there is some jesting between myself and some Wellingtonians has nothing to do with Sky's decision not to show NZFC games.

Hook, line and sinker

The Phoenix the very reason that NZFC games aren't on SKY!!!
U could always go to the game then not have to worry about it not being shown live   

Ooooh, Bluemagic's changed his username

No, that's HappyTed.

The Phoenix are not even close to the reason SKY do not show NZFC games.  The reason SKY don't show NZFC games is that they expect New Zealand football to pay them to show them, as they do for the Chatham Cup final and the NZFC final.  NZ Football can't afford to do that.

The Phoenix is a completely seprate product.

Your assertion makes some assumption that Sky have ever shown NZFC or National League games and that they stopped because of the Phoenix.  This is patently false.  We used to have a highlights show, that was stopped because no one would pay for it, not because of the Phoenix either.

By your logic it's the Premier Leagues fault they don't show the NZFC as well.  You should take that up on a Perennial strugglers Liverpool forum.

Haha, your right, NZFC had fantastic coverage before the Phoenix showed.

It generally pays to read through forums before posting in them JordyBean. If you had done this you may have noticed some rants on Dragons home game weekends that stipulate I've worked all of them so far this season. To blame the Phoenix for no NZFC on Sky is rather narrow minded as HN has pointed out. Maybe a new thread needs to be started for these accusations so we don't have to put up with them in a CANTERBURY UNITED forum.

It had lot more coverage that it does now as Hard News as pointed out in his last post

Did you even read my post Phil ?

The NZFC hi-lights show was gone a year before the Phoenix arrived.  Mainstream channels cover it now as much as they ever had.  In fact, thanks to the CWC display Auckland City (and by extention the NZFC) have had more coverage in the last six-months than any NZFC side has ever had.

Just maybe the Phoenix raising the profile of the game here has in fact increased the NZFC and Auckland Citys profile and the recognition of the Club World Champs display.  Of course, the knitting circle will never admit that.

In my original post I didn't mean I wanted a highlights show like before (although it would be a step back in the right direction) but rather the full 90 of each game, even if it was delayed I would be happy. I've never seen what Stratos has to offer though, as I can't be arsed to scroll all the way down to channel 89 or whatever it is to see if football might or might not be on whilst I'm home.

Thanks, didn't see this one pop up. 

We spent a couple of months looking at the viability of internet streaming Team Wellington games and other Wellington matches using some Fever funds and our time.  Even had plans for a talk show, but the costs proved too prohibitive so we had to shelve them.

We'd still like to do it and may have a look again but even evaluating the viability was using a huge amount of time we didn't have, let alone actually producing it.

what problems would licencing cause , you just know youd be stepping on someones toes...

Its a shame there isn't any local tv stations that would show it, like Channel 9 did in Dunedin back in the day (it was more of a real life action parklife kinda show). You mitve been able to get a proper studio to film in. I'm still not sold on internet shows/streams


good idea though

p.s. i just saw the NZFC's motto. i spewed in my mouth a little.

something along the lines of "jobs for the boys "

remembrer the fracas over Waikatos scarf ...

They[ NZF ] really are crap...

Out of interest what sort of figures are you talking to get tv channel coverage versus internet streaming?

The Local Name of the Global Game



needs a rebrand. could do with a gradient, comic sans and a drop shadow

Nola stop that !

Why Sky? - Why not any one of the 4 (TVNZ, TV3, Prime, Maori) FTA broadcasters in NZ?

Free to air always a better bet , we shoulda gone with maori TV ages ago...

Yeah sorry your are right about Phoeniz timing but Phoenix Knights Kingz all the same problem just different names
and Mainstream channels dont cover any of the NZFC just a team that plays in it
and the fact that TW crowds ahve gone from probably best in the league before Phoenix to 175 is a mere coincidence?
So while they maybe "Raising the Profile of the game" they are at the same time adversely affecting the very game you claim they are raising the profile of

ginger_eejit: Good call, and fair enough. I was just watching Sky Sports at the time and probably defaulted to it. Even still, I personally think it's worthy of a wee bit of Sky Sports time.

Maori TV would be good, they do cover the breakers when Sky for whatever reason just wont. I could go on about the bias towards rugby over anything else but that's for another thread.

Also, how can they justify showing the New York Marathon live and not even delayed or highlights of NZFC?

me also suspects they dont have enough camera crews to go around.  i think this was a reason for something that they missed cos of a rugby game on somehwere else. whether its true or not im not sure.

I know how to use final cut pro if that helps, and you know my works rates. im an xl teeshirt

And maori tv wouldn't take it its not relevant to their interests. Christo2010-02-23 22:29:18

But basketball is?

yeah;    anything that gains viewers is relevant to their interests...

What crowd nos first 2 seasons ??

Yessir, and league and rugby. You sometimes see local league games on there or highlights.

I think it has in part something to do with parts of the american culture that young maori/pacific islanders look at and take their cues from.

My understanding is that Auckland Rugby League will have their Premier games on Maori Tv again this year - very successful last year with viewership of over 80Kfor each game shown (so I'm told which is not bad for a "local" championship)

Have to agree News - I think I am one of many who wouldn't have had anywhere near the same involvement in following a team or in football in general if it wasn't for the Phoenix. What they have done for raising the awareness and profile of the game for Joe Public has been a huge thing.

The public interest in the All Whites' qualification playoff, the Womens U17 Competition and ACFC in Abu Dhabi would not have been as prevalent (in my opinion) if the profile of the sport hadn't been lifted.

It would be great to see NZFC games getting more coverage, but unfortunately economics don't currently allow for it.

Agree with Graeme that the crowds for TW were good in the early days. I went to most of the matches in Season 1 but pretty much stopped going regularly for a good few years until the Phoenix came around again.
Cnut2010-02-27 02:03:04

Cnut nailed it. The Phoenix effect  sparked national interest in the AW qualifier, numerous youth world cups, and whilst I can't vouch for TW crowds, the Dragons attendance has sky rocketed this year. We owe it all to the Phoenix and their successes (and the good buggers at Yellow Fever of course) over the last few years.

Your crowds at Cant Utd are up because you have a good side this season unlike the dire efforts of the past couple of years got FA to do with an Australian side in Wellington and the Phoenix had nothing to do with the AW's crowd at WCQ v Bahrain   

Yes we have a good squad this year, but that's irrelevant to the crowd size. It has helped keep the attendance up but there was f**k all communication between Mainland and the clubs this year, at one point Canterbury United weren't even registering for the NZFC. Most people turned up at the start of the season because of the football, not the players. Also, if the Phoenix were not in the A-League how many of the AW would have been known players before the WC qualifier? We would have turned up to watch Nelsen, Vicelich, Elliot and Killen. We might have heard of the likes of Bertos, Smeltz and wee Mac but probably would know f**k all about them, as no one would follow the Australian league with interest. The "Phoenix effect" had everything to do with 35,100 odd people showing out in Wellington that night.

Haven't had a laugh like this in a long time.