Was there no reports on the national league in the media this week? Nothing in The Press this morning and can't see anything on Stuff...
There's a pretty obvious reason for that...
Ok you might have to explain that for someone who doesn’t see the obvious reason…
They're glorified friendlies. They're important as they ensure the players who can get matches, especially those who are young and on development pathways, but they're not going to attract media coverage.
I mean that's pretty unfair, it's effectively as much of a national league comp as we're gonna have, while losing 4 Auckland teams does decrease the quality and prestidge of the product it's a nonsense to call them "glorified friendlies".
Probably not https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/126929282/nz-football-still-finalising-broadcast-details-for-all-whites-match-against-the-gambiawatching_from_far
Guessing the AW friendlies won't be getting any coverage then either.
Was there no reports on the national league in the media this week? Nothing in The Press this morning and can't see anything on Stuff...
There's a pretty obvious reason for that...
Ok you might have to explain that for someone who doesn’t see the obvious reason…
They're glorified friendlies. They're important as they ensure the players who can get matches, especially those who are young and on development pathways, but they're not going to attract media coverage.
Yet rugby's NPC, which is in the same boat (ie no Auckland \ Waikato teams) and several of those games being "actual" friendlies continues to get plenty of media coverage..........
Sorry, but the NPC which had already started and had carried on with 11 of its 14 teams is a different kettle of a fish to these competitions starting up missing half (in the women's case) and 45 per cent (in the men's case) of the teams eligible to win them.
Was there no reports on the national league in the media this week? Nothing in The Press this morning and can't see anything on Stuff...
There's a pretty obvious reason for that...
Ok you might have to explain that for someone who doesn’t see the obvious reason…
They're glorified friendlies. They're important as they ensure the players who can get matches, especially those who are young and on development pathways, but they're not going to attract media coverage.
Well that's a disappointing attitude from a reporter of the greatest sport. Mind you, the reporting of local sport over the years has been terrible so I guess it's to be expected.
Was there no reports on the national league in the media this week? Nothing in The Press this morning and can't see anything on Stuff...
There's a pretty obvious reason for that...
Ok you might have to explain that for someone who doesn’t see the obvious reason…
They're glorified friendlies. They're important as they ensure the players who can get matches, especially those who are young and on development pathways, but they're not going to attract media coverage.
Well that's a disappointing attitude from a reporter of the greatest sport. Mind you, the reporting of local sport over the years has been terrible so I guess it's to be expected.
Sorry, but these are not national league competitions, plain and simple, and that matters. If proper national league competitions and the business ends of the Kate Sheppard/Chatham Cups had been run this year we would have done some coverage around them. I wouldn't describe this as my personal attitude, as much as where these makeshift competitions sit in the wider sports mix and what that means in terms of news coverage.
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Sure, I mean it's so hard for someone to write "something" on the games and put it online, can see why you wouldn't.
Amazingly work does take time, yes. We at Stuff spent a couple of years maintaining week-in, week-out national league coverage largely out of passion but the audience interest ultimately wasn't there and there came a point where putting the effort in in our own time on hot Sunday afternoons throughout summer was no longer worth it. The last couple of summers we've been much more targeted in our coverage (but still doing more than any other mainstream NZ media outlet – full credit to The Niche Cache, btw). When there's a proper national league competition to cover again and when the 2021 Cups get concluded in February, we'll be there. Note also, there's also a new semi-pro women's team to cover this summer, so there'll be a net increase in football coverage...
Sure, I mean it's so hard for someone to write "something" on the games and put it online, can see why you wouldn't.
Amazingly work does take time, yes. We at Stuff spent a couple of years maintaining week-in, week-out national league coverage largely out of passion but the audience interest ultimately wasn't there and there came a point where putting the effort in in our own time on hot Sunday afternoons throughout summer was no longer worth it. The last couple of summers we've been much more targeted in our coverage (but still doing more than any other mainstream NZ media outlet – full credit to The Niche Cache, btw). When there's a proper national league competition to cover again and when the 2021 Cups get concluded in February, we'll be there. Note also, there's also a new semi-pro women's team to cover this summer, so there'll be a net increase in football coverage...
JR isn't covering it either, although he notes he is tied up with something else.
ODT covers local sport well and has an article for the Southern game. I was in Dunedin a few years ago, picked up the ODT and was surprised to be taken back in time to see a sports section covering local sport.
On BetweenTwoBears podcast, Steven Holloway has commented a few times about newspapers now being click driven. Content is measured by the number of clicks. And I think it was Dylan Cleaver on BYC podcast made a comment that the Herald had not sent anyone to the last two olympics. Media industry is different than what it used to be.
I don't want to get fully dragged into this conversation, but I would assume there is a decent amount of interest in this league south of the Bombay's, because there are no Auckland teams - in what is likely (hopefully) to be a one off in history.
That unique landscape certainly adds some interest for me and I suspect for all those fans outside of Auckland as well.
Sure, I mean it's so hard for someone to write "something" on the games and put it online, can see why you wouldn't.
Amazingly work does take time, yes. We at Stuff spent a couple of years maintaining week-in, week-out national league coverage largely out of passion but the audience interest ultimately wasn't there and there came a point where putting the effort in in our own time on hot Sunday afternoons throughout summer was no longer worth it. The last couple of summers we've been much more targeted in our coverage (but still doing more than any other mainstream NZ media outlet – full credit to The Niche Cache, btw). When there's a proper national league competition to cover again and when the 2021 Cups get concluded in February, we'll be there. Note also, there's also a new semi-pro women's team to cover this summer, so there'll be a net increase in football coverage...
I get that there's a cost to writing stories about anything and at some point an organisation has to weigh up the cost to potential profit (readership) that coverage might attract - but stating it was too hard cos you had to spend your own time on a hot sunny sunday afternoon watching football (especially when you're probably being paid for that time or article you wrote) seems an odd statement to me. Most of us would kill to be contracted/employed to write stories about the game we love.
Sure, I mean it's so hard for someone to write "something" on the games and put it online, can see why you wouldn't.
Amazingly work does take time, yes. We at Stuff spent a couple of years maintaining week-in, week-out national league coverage largely out of passion but the audience interest ultimately wasn't there and there came a point where putting the effort in in our own time on hot Sunday afternoons throughout summer was no longer worth it. The last couple of summers we've been much more targeted in our coverage (but still doing more than any other mainstream NZ media outlet – full credit to The Niche Cache, btw). When there's a proper national league competition to cover again and when the 2021 Cups get concluded in February, we'll be there. Note also, there's also a new semi-pro women's team to cover this summer, so there'll be a net increase in football coverage...
I get that there's a cost to writing stories about anything and at some point an organisation has to weigh up the cost to potential profit (readership) that coverage might attract - but stating it was too hard cos you had to spend your own time on a hot sunny sunday afternoon watching football (especially when you're probably being paid for that time or article you wrote) seems an odd statement to me. Most of us would kill to be contracted/employed to write stories about the game we love.
Not going to get into the ins and outs of how things work, but when I say in our own time I mean in our own time, with all that implies. Not saying it was 'too hard' – just that there came a point where the demand for week-in, week-out wraps of national league action led to a reflection on whether it was effort. We have plenty of scope to cover football which is great and we more than make the most of it IMO, but there's got to be an understanding of where certain competitions sit in the grand scheme of things – especially this year, when they're not even proper competitions. As I've said, when proper national league competitions are run next year (I hope anyway) you'll see more coverage of them on Stuff than any other mainstream media outlet (and again full credit to The Niche Cache and the work they do).
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Football40s
Full credit to southern altho pride missing a large number of key players due to International Selection/College Football and injury whereas Southern pretty much same plus or minus a few. Really can’t compare apples to apples in this new Southern series compared to a NWL competition. Great for all teams to have a kick around of sorts. Will be a diff story next season hopefully when players return and hopefully covid restrictions lifted.
The Pride are suffering the fate of many successful sides in seeing their best players being snapped up by overseas or professional sides. Last season's championship winning Pride squad: 1 Una FOYLE (GK), 2 Emma CLARKE, 3 Rebecca LAKE, 4 Lara WALL, 5 Mikaela HUNT, 6 Kate TAYLOR, 7 Gabrielle (Gabi) RENNIE, 8 Tahlia HERMAN-WATT, 11 Britney-lee NICHOLSON, 12 Amelia ABBOTT, 13 Whitney HEPBURN, 15 Margarida DIAS, 18 Alyssa WHINHAM, 19 Ellena FIRTH, 21 Nicola DOMINIKOVICH, 23 Lily BRAY; Zoe McMeeken Players who have left in bold. Nine players have left from last season. Taylor, Whinham and McMeeken to the Phoenix Women. Rennie, Herman-Watt, Abbott to US universities Margarida Dias, a Cantabrian with a Portuguese dad, to Southern where she is studying at Otago. First choice keeper Una Foyle was out injured and replaced by the inexperienced Annie Foote.
There were four Pride players on debut vs. Southern: Kate Guildford, Kate Loye, Lottie Mortlock and Kiara Bercelli
It's a bonus having Football Fern Annalie Longo back, having decided to give the A-League Women a miss this season to spend time with her two daughters. This season's squad:
True Una been injured and Britney-Lee Nicholson named however out this season due to ACL, I believe a few other senior players decided to not play this season earlier on due to commitments
Was there no reports on the national league in the media this week? Nothing in The Press this morning and can't see anything on Stuff...
Check out the Mainland football website for Pride match reports the day after the game (at least for home games) here: https://www.mainlandfootball.co.nz/CANTERBURY-UNITED/CANTERBURY-UNITED Match reports for Cash Tech and Selwyn games are harder to come by. Try the Sportsline site referenced above or the website / Facebook page of the clubs they are playing. Otago Daily Times is one of the few Kiwi papers still carrying local match reports. Check out their website. ODT also owns the Christchurch Star weekly free paper and a section of the ODT website carries Chch Star sports stories plus stories not found in the print edition: https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/football Good coverage of local football by the Star reporter Chris Barclay. In this week's Star there's an updated report on Zoe McMeekan, a Pride player at the Phoenix Women and a report on the Selwyn vs. Cash Tech match from last weekend. If you don't get the Star delivered, you can read it online here: https://starmedia.kiwi/digital-editions/? publication=I9U6vsfdjGy3DxHC&month= Both Andrew Voerman and Gordon Findlater (Newshub/ TV 3) started out as sports reporters on the Star.
My son was able to talk me through how to use YouTube on the TV and I watched Miramar vs Phoenix.
Gotta be honest, it was not a great watch. There was a nice finish on the last Phoenix goal and the ref missed a penalty late for the Phoenix. Miramar didn't look like the old TW I would have expected
My son was able to talk me through how to use YouTube on the TV and I watched Miramar vs Phoenix.
Gotta be honest, it was not a great watch. There was a nice finish on the last Phoenix goal and the ref missed a penalty late for the Phoenix. Miramar didn't look like the old TW I would have expected
Olympic have a better BOOT deal for former TW players.
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My son was able to talk me through how to use YouTube on the TV and I watched Miramar vs Phoenix.
Gotta be honest, it was not a great watch. There was a nice finish on the last Phoenix goal and the ref missed a penalty late for the Phoenix. Miramar didn't look like the old TW I would have expected
I was at the game! Not the best on quality from either side, but a good watch nonetheless. Was disappointed with how dirty both teams were and then Greenacre and co. just abused the fourth official the whole damn second half. Not a great advert for the spirit of the game but an entertaining day out nonetheless.
My son was able to talk me through how to use YouTube on the TV and I watched Miramar vs Phoenix.
Gotta be honest, it was not a great watch. There was a nice finish on the last Phoenix goal and the ref missed a penalty late for the Phoenix. Miramar didn't look like the old TW I would have expected
The first penalty Nix got was so soft though... officials weren't good but it probably evens out.
My son was able to talk me through how to use YouTube on the TV and I watched Miramar vs Phoenix.
Gotta be honest, it was not a great watch. There was a nice finish on the last Phoenix goal and the ref missed a penalty late for the Phoenix. Miramar didn't look like the old TW I would have expected
I was at the game! Not the best on quality from either side, but a good watch nonetheless. Was disappointed with how dirty both teams were and then Greenacre and co. just abused the fourth official the whole damn second half. Not a great advert for the spirit of the game but an entertaining day out nonetheless.
Watching from the seated area near the benches, both teams head coaches were just yelling and screaming for the entirety of the game. The fourth official was bombarded by the phoenix bench.
My son was able to talk me through how to use YouTube on the TV and I watched Miramar vs Phoenix.
Gotta be honest, it was not a great watch. There was a nice finish on the last Phoenix goal and the ref missed a penalty late for the Phoenix. Miramar didn't look like the old TW I would have expected
I was at the game! Not the best on quality from either side, but a good watch nonetheless. Was disappointed with how dirty both teams were and then Greenacre and co. just abused the fourth official the whole damn second half. Not a great advert for the spirit of the game but an entertaining day out nonetheless.
Watching from the seated area near the benches, both teams head coaches were just yelling and screaming for the entirety of the game. The fourth official was bombarded by the phoenix bench.
Luckily that didn't come across too much on the TV. It does not sound at all enjoyable.
I wasn't behind the benches at Mar v Nix but could hear a lot of shouting at players mostly.
Was between the benches for Nix v Olympic the other week and that was bad. Both sets of coaching staff were roasting the 4th. The best call was after the Nix players had kicked the sh*t outta Olympic for a bit then something didn't go their way and Greenacre yelled at the 4th, and someone on Olympic bench goes "and WE have the bad reputation". I laughed.
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Amazing afternoon of football at Farrington saw a red card, broken leg, ambulance not turn up and 8 goals. Totally recommend watching the last 10 mins on YouTube as game went from 2-2 to 4-4.
I am assuming whoever finishes top of the league hosts it. Olympic away to Cashtech at 1pm , Miramar at home to Selwyn 3 pm in last round. So if they both win then GD will sort it out . Miramar would have to make up 3 at least to equal , 4 to better. Entirely possible. Wakefield Park not really a suitable venue for a final ?
I am assuming whoever finishes top of the league hosts it. Olympic away to Cashtech at 1pm , Miramar at home to Selwyn 3 pm in last round. So if they both win then GD will sort it out . Miramar would have to make up 3 at least to equal , 4 to better. Entirely possible. Wakefield Park not really a suitable venue for a final ?
Wakefield is a lame venue - but if Olympic earn it then they have that right (if it was good enough for group games)
