How many wins for central league teams against non central league teams are we going for?
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
NZ National League 2022
Miramar 2 - 4 Birkenhead
Not quite sure what's happened with Miramar these past couple of weeks. Poor at the back, sloppy in possession and some soft goals conceded. They nabbed a couple today, but they've shipped 8 in these opening 2 National League games. Birkenhead, as they were last week, were very good - clinical and a lot to like about their play. They've got a lot of guys who have played together for years (and they're still a bloody young outfit!) those combinations & lines of communication really come to the fore at this level. They looked relatively comfortable today, despite being pegged back on a couple of occasions.
Birko go top, Miramar stay last.
Still 7 rounds to go after this one, but you feel Miramar already have probably got too much to do to get back into contention even at this early stage...
Not quite sure what's happened with Miramar these past couple of weeks. Poor at the back, sloppy in possession and some soft goals conceded. They nabbed a couple today, but they've shipped 8 in these opening 2 National League games. Birkenhead, as they were last week, were very good - clinical and a lot to like about their play. They've got a lot of guys who have played together for years (and they're still a bloody young outfit!) those combinations & lines of communication really come to the fore at this level. They looked relatively comfortable today, despite being pegged back on a couple of occasions.
Birko go top, Miramar stay last.
Still 7 rounds to go after this one, but you feel Miramar already have probably got too much to do to get back into contention even at this early stage...
Extremely poor officiating at the penalty in the Auckland City v. Cashmere Technical game. Penalty was saved and Matthysen was yellow carded for encroachment., with free kick awarded to City. Clearly at least two Auckland players also encroached so the correct decision should have seen the penalty retaken.
And, I've only seen it I've but surely City's keeper should've been yellowed for the challenge, if not a red for not attempting to play the ball.
Someone check the betting patterns for any suspicious bets regarding ACFC not getting carded... (said only half sarcastically)
Someone check the betting patterns for any suspicious bets regarding ACFC not getting carded... (said only half sarcastically)
How many wins for central league teams against non central league teams are we going for?
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
Noah Karunaratne is surely next off the production line to get a pro deal, is he not?
did the WeeNix get a goal disallowed?
Pedantic refing just dumb why book anyone for that when it has no impact on if the penalty is scored or saved.
So when is NZ football going to realise the "Championship round" should be an actual league. There is way too much difference between the bottom of the table and top of the table in all three leagues with many double digit scorelines, nobody wants to see that.
So when is NZ football going to realise the "Championship round" should be an actual league. There is way too much difference between the bottom of the table and top of the table in all three leagues with many double digit scorelines, nobody wants to see that.
What were the big scores in central?
Wests and Havelock getting pumped by Miramar and Olympic.
Wests and Havelock getting pumped by Miramar and Olympic.
And Wests would have been in any top tier league as they were top four in 2021
So when is NZ football going to realise the "Championship round" should be an actual league. There is way too much difference between the bottom of the table and top of the table in all three leagues with many double digit scorelines, nobody wants to see that.
Basically if they did that it would turn into the northern league in about three seasons.
So when is NZ football going to realise the "Championship round" should be an actual league. There is way too much difference between the bottom of the table and top of the table in all three leagues with many double digit scorelines, nobody wants to see that.
Wow. We haven't even finished one round of a national league and people are already looking at changing it.
Reminds me of the great merry-go-round Bruce Holloway has written about here. Will it ever stop?
So when is NZ football going to realise the "Championship round" should be an actual league. There is way too much difference between the bottom of the table and top of the table in all three leagues with many double digit scorelines, nobody wants to see that.
Wow. We haven't even finished one round of a national league and people are already looking at changing it.
Reminds me of the great merry-go-round Bruce Holloway has written about here. Will it ever stop?
How many wins for central league teams against non central league teams are we going for?
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
Happy to take your money, Olympic will do that themselves.
How many wins for central league teams against non central league teams are we going for?
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
Happy to take your money, Olympic will do that themselves.
Tbf they may well do, very impressive result against Melville and hard done by against City.
What of the other three though?
How many wins for central league teams against non central league teams are we going for?
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
Happy to take your money, Olympic will do that themselves.
Tbf they may well do, very impressive result against Melville and hard done by against City.
What of the other three though?
WeeNix could be good to nick one or two. Miramar have had a lot of player churn lately (most going to overseas gigs), so likely to struggle. NCR probably the least favoured of the lot but have acquitted themselves decently so far.
Birko up 1-0 early in the top of the table clash against Auckland City. Fantastic acrobatic finish by Sam Burfoot for the opener.
City looking very out of sorts early on - a tepid first 25 minutes to say the least in what looks a very physical encounter.
Birkenhead definitely fired up for this one!
City looking very out of sorts early on - a tepid first 25 minutes to say the least in what looks a very physical encounter.
Birkenhead definitely fired up for this one!
Game of the season so far that - 2-2 it ends. Birko went into the 80th minute 2-0 up and with a man advantage but ACFC pull off a miracle comeback, Tade equalising in the 94th minute. Absolute scenes. Plenty of quality on show from both sides - all in all a draw was probably deserved. ACFC will be by far the happier about it though.
How many wins for central league teams against non central league teams are we going for?
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
I reckon under 2.5 is a safe bet.
Happy to take your money, Olympic will do that themselves.
Tbf they may well do, very impressive result against Melville and hard done by against City.
What of the other three though?
WeeNix could be good to nick one or two. Miramar have had a lot of player churn lately (most going to overseas gigs), so likely to struggle. NCR probably the least favoured of the lot but have acquitted themselves decently so far.
Game of the season so far that - 2-2 it ends. Birko went into the 80th minute 2-0 up and with a man advantage but ACFC pull off a miracle comeback, Tade equalising in the 94th minute. Absolute scenes. Plenty of quality on show from both sides - all in all a draw was probably deserved. ACFC will be by far the happier about it though.
Son of a bitch! Put a tenner on Birko just before kick off. Was sitting pretty I tells ya 😥
Finally a fudgeing football game!
This is how to beat City - turn up and actually press then. They’re not Manchester City and they will struggle. Credit to Birko. Just run out of gas at the end.
Also Birko seems to have nabbed North Shore United’s goal keeper who was excellent.
Still think Tade is the best player in the league. Clueless as to why he doesn’t play every minute other than age.
This is how to beat City - turn up and actually press then. They’re not Manchester City and they will struggle. Credit to Birko. Just run out of gas at the end.
Also Birko seems to have nabbed North Shore United’s goal keeper who was excellent.
Still think Tade is the best player in the league. Clueless as to why he doesn’t play every minute other than age.
Was the best game of the National League so far. So hats of to both Birkenhead and Auckland City.
Feel like it'll be those two + Wellington Olympic who will be fighting it out for the top two spots & the final. Still a lot of footy to be played though, and still a little tight to be calling anyone for the title at this stage.
Miramar have just come from 2-0 down against Napier late on as well to snatch their first point of the League in a 2-2 draw. Bitterly disappointing result from NCR's perspective who had they held on would have been in a three way tie at the top on 7 points with City and Birko. Alas, fine margins both earn and lose points at this level. Game wasn't as high quality as the one up North, but still a good even contest.
Feel like it'll be those two + Wellington Olympic who will be fighting it out for the top two spots & the final. Still a lot of footy to be played though, and still a little tight to be calling anyone for the title at this stage.
Miramar have just come from 2-0 down against Napier late on as well to snatch their first point of the League in a 2-2 draw. Bitterly disappointing result from NCR's perspective who had they held on would have been in a three way tie at the top on 7 points with City and Birko. Alas, fine margins both earn and lose points at this level. Game wasn't as high quality as the one up North, but still a good even contest.
Hobbo needs better PR, he's had Birko at this level for quite a while, and often with a low average team age. Add in all the Napier U19 success they have as well. They do steal the majority of their youth players off other clubs, mostly on the Shore, but not exclusively. But still, signing players is one thing, doing well is another. Wonder if he's wanted/ever tried for NZ age group gigs?
It was a bugger to see City equalise though, but that's why their guys are(n't) paid the big bucks. Guys on the deck obviously got to Tade for him to act the big man in front of them.
Christchurch Utd have now dropped more points in their three NL games than their 18 Southern League games. Obviously there's a big step up - they aren't playing Mosgiel and the like now - but they have been a bit disappointing. I was sold a big game. With the punishing format, 7 points dropped could already be just about it for them. They were probably lucky they didn't lose today; Mack Waite probably shouldn't be conceding from the position he did, and it seemed the majority of their shots were from deep.
Auckland United were probably not all there to win though either tbf. Murati had a big chance near the end but missed his touch. They need Redfearn/Zambrano firing, Redfearn did play a nice touch for that Murati chance, but don't remember much more. Fay reminds me a bit of Karunaratne, really nice with ball at feet and going past players, but needing that finish/final pass to separate the men from the boys.
It was a bugger to see City equalise though, but that's why their guys are(n't) paid the big bucks. Guys on the deck obviously got to Tade for him to act the big man in front of them.
Christchurch Utd have now dropped more points in their three NL games than their 18 Southern League games. Obviously there's a big step up - they aren't playing Mosgiel and the like now - but they have been a bit disappointing. I was sold a big game. With the punishing format, 7 points dropped could already be just about it for them. They were probably lucky they didn't lose today; Mack Waite probably shouldn't be conceding from the position he did, and it seemed the majority of their shots were from deep.
Auckland United were probably not all there to win though either tbf. Murati had a big chance near the end but missed his touch. They need Redfearn/Zambrano firing, Redfearn did play a nice touch for that Murati chance, but don't remember much more. Fay reminds me a bit of Karunaratne, really nice with ball at feet and going past players, but needing that finish/final pass to separate the men from the boys.
The Central League Clubs are definitely below par tho, Olympic being the exception.
Two questions I have, if anyone is in the know that'd be awesome.
1) Who was the player who was caught betting, and is their team even in the National League?
2) What's the development going in beside the Shepherds Park clubrooms up at Birkenhead? It looks a fascinating development. Is it similar to what Melville are looking to do at Gower Park down in Hamilton?
1) Who was the player who was caught betting, and is their team even in the National League?
2) What's the development going in beside the Shepherds Park clubrooms up at Birkenhead? It looks a fascinating development. Is it similar to what Melville are looking to do at Gower Park down in Hamilton?
Good afternoons entertainment at Shepherds Park.
Birko would be disappointed at letting a 2 goal lead against 10 men go and City would be the happiest with the result.
To be honest Birko were just hanging on for large periods of the game.They certainly showed that the way to compete with City is relentless pressing and being in their face.
Of course that is a high risk/high reward strategy and Birko and their crowd felt hard done by the referee at times. I didn't see too much wrong with his officiating although City are past masters of influencing referees.Ivan Vicelich had a doctorate in that art and has passed it on to his players.
I was about 20 yards away from Piper chopping Drake in half in the first half and thought he could have been a little lucky to stay on the field.What saved him I think was that it was not malicious but poorly timed.Could see it coming from my position.
I wasn't sure what Howieson was sent for ?The tackle was a definite booking but I don't recall an earlier yellow so was it some afters or dissent ?
Certainly if you stop Howieson playing then City struggle.The other two midfielders were anonymous.
Quite ironic then that City scored once he was sent.The reason for the turnaround in one word - Tade !!! He was dangerous all the time in his short cameo.Not sure why he only plays in short bursts - maybe he still has fitness/injury issues.
Rodic made some outstanding saves.He came from Shore after the transfer deadline when Hirst had a season ending injury.There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
The Birko crowd certainly gave City a bit of stick over the player payment issue hence Tades reaction although I think Ivan Vuksich and co may have been by that goal ?
Birks chant was
"You're so rich , it can't be legal"
Quite clever and a bit cutting.I'm sure that City aren't doing anything illegal but some questions (ie how much of Trillians disbursements go to one entity ?) should be answered.
As far as the clubrooms development at Birko goes I think it is changing facilities mainly so they can meet the criterai as a training base for the womens world cup.
Not sure of the crowd - maybe 1000. Birko don't charge admission as too many entry points to the park I think
As far as the betting player - it is a National league player but as they say sub judice.
Birko would be disappointed at letting a 2 goal lead against 10 men go and City would be the happiest with the result.
To be honest Birko were just hanging on for large periods of the game.They certainly showed that the way to compete with City is relentless pressing and being in their face.
Of course that is a high risk/high reward strategy and Birko and their crowd felt hard done by the referee at times. I didn't see too much wrong with his officiating although City are past masters of influencing referees.Ivan Vicelich had a doctorate in that art and has passed it on to his players.
I was about 20 yards away from Piper chopping Drake in half in the first half and thought he could have been a little lucky to stay on the field.What saved him I think was that it was not malicious but poorly timed.Could see it coming from my position.
I wasn't sure what Howieson was sent for ?The tackle was a definite booking but I don't recall an earlier yellow so was it some afters or dissent ?
Certainly if you stop Howieson playing then City struggle.The other two midfielders were anonymous.
Quite ironic then that City scored once he was sent.The reason for the turnaround in one word - Tade !!! He was dangerous all the time in his short cameo.Not sure why he only plays in short bursts - maybe he still has fitness/injury issues.
Rodic made some outstanding saves.He came from Shore after the transfer deadline when Hirst had a season ending injury.There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
The Birko crowd certainly gave City a bit of stick over the player payment issue hence Tades reaction although I think Ivan Vuksich and co may have been by that goal ?
Birks chant was
"You're so rich , it can't be legal"
Quite clever and a bit cutting.I'm sure that City aren't doing anything illegal but some questions (ie how much of Trillians disbursements go to one entity ?) should be answered.
As far as the clubrooms development at Birko goes I think it is changing facilities mainly so they can meet the criterai as a training base for the womens world cup.
Not sure of the crowd - maybe 1000. Birko don't charge admission as too many entry points to the park I think
As far as the betting player - it is a National league player but as they say sub judice.
I wasn't sure what Howieson was sent for ?The tackle was a definite booking but I don't recall an earlier yellow so was it some afters or dissent ?
There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
It looked to me that it was a last man tackle, Schnell was through if not taken down, but it was a fair way out and I did not see if defenders were coming. Don't think it was dissent , he looked more amused than anything else.
He was an injury replacement which is apparently allowed for keepers. Damian was injured in the Auckland Cit game when he and Killkolly collided and both were out for some time.
There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
It looked to me that it was a last man tackle, Schnell was through if not taken down, but it was a fair way out and I did not see if defenders were coming. Don't think it was dissent , he looked more amused than anything else.
He was an injury replacement which is apparently allowed for keepers. Damian was injured in the Auckland Cit game when he and Killkolly collided and both were out for some time.
anyone know why the replay of this game has disappeared off the internet - every link I have says it's private.
I wasn't sure what Howieson was sent for ?The tackle was a definite booking but I don't recall an earlier yellow so was it some afters or dissent ?
There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
It looked to me that it was a last man tackle, Schnell was through if not taken down, but it was a fair way out and I did not see if defenders were coming. Don't think it was dissent , he looked more amused than anything else.
He was an injury replacement which is apparently allowed for keepers. Damian was injured in the Auckland Cit game when he and Killkolly collided and both were out for some time.
There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
It looked to me that it was a last man tackle, Schnell was through if not taken down, but it was a fair way out and I did not see if defenders were coming. Don't think it was dissent , he looked more amused than anything else.
He was an injury replacement which is apparently allowed for keepers. Damian was injured in the Auckland Cit game when he and Killkolly collided and both were out for some time.
Yeah there seems to be a bit of freedom to sign keepers. Joe Knowles (Eastern Suburbs keeper) played for Miramar today, having only signed for them on Thursday apparently. That was with Jack de Groot on the bench today, who was their keeper for most of the season, so it’s not like their first choice was suddenly incapacitated.
I wasn't sure what Howieson was sent for ?The tackle was a definite booking but I don't recall an earlier yellow so was it some afters or dissent ?
There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
It looked to me that it was a last man tackle, Schnell was through if not taken down, but it was a fair way out and I did not see if defenders were coming. Don't think it was dissent , he looked more amused than anything else.
He was an injury replacement which is apparently allowed for keepers. Damian was injured in the Auckland Cit game when he and Killkolly collided and both were out for some time.
There must be some exemption for goalkeepers ?
It looked to me that it was a last man tackle, Schnell was through if not taken down, but it was a fair way out and I did not see if defenders were coming. Don't think it was dissent , he looked more amused than anything else.
He was an injury replacement which is apparently allowed for keepers. Damian was injured in the Auckland Cit game when he and Killkolly collided and both were out for some time.
Yeah there seems to be a bit of freedom to sign keepers. Joe Knowles (Eastern Suburbs keeper) played for Miramar today, having only signed for them on Thursday apparently. That was with Jack de Groot on the bench today, who was their keeper for most of the season, so it’s not like their first choice was suddenly incapacitated.
There is an exemption for goalkeepers as you are required to have one on the bench.
If you only have two keepers and one gets injured you can apply for an exemption to sign another, either temporarily or for remainder of season.
There is no rule I’m aware of that says the replacement keeper can’t start. Perhaps Miramar second keeper is ‘unavailable’.
Re Red - Howieson was just a straight red for the tackle. Schnell wasn't through at all. There were defenders ahead of him and at best he's heading off towards the corner. It wasn't dissent, he was fairly collected and even spoke with the crowd...
He lunged, definitely got the ball, but also definitely made contact with the player. I only saw it live and while I thought it'd be a yellow, I think the ref saw studs up and contact to Schnell's ankle...
The ref made some odd calls, but no where near as questionable as the crowd made out. Someone above thought that Piper could've been sent off (I agree) yet most of the Birko crowd were getting themselves in a ruff whether it was even a foul.
On Auckland's midfielders - I think Howieson/Ilich/Garriga are fairly average players. By pressing Auckland, you make these players actually have to play some real football (instead of getting easy balls they can turn and play square from).
On Tade - I'm not a Birko regular but I'm sure I've seen Tade score a late one against them before and do the exact same thing.
He lunged, definitely got the ball, but also definitely made contact with the player. I only saw it live and while I thought it'd be a yellow, I think the ref saw studs up and contact to Schnell's ankle...
The ref made some odd calls, but no where near as questionable as the crowd made out. Someone above thought that Piper could've been sent off (I agree) yet most of the Birko crowd were getting themselves in a ruff whether it was even a foul.
On Auckland's midfielders - I think Howieson/Ilich/Garriga are fairly average players. By pressing Auckland, you make these players actually have to play some real football (instead of getting easy balls they can turn and play square from).
On Tade - I'm not a Birko regular but I'm sure I've seen Tade score a late one against them before and do the exact same thing.
Re Red - Howieson was just a straight red for the tackle. Schnell wasn't through at all. There were defenders ahead of him and at best he's heading off towards the corner. It wasn't dissent, he was fairly collected and even spoke with the crowd...
He lunged, definitely got the ball, but also definitely made contact with the player. I only saw it live and while I thought it'd be a yellow, I think the ref saw studs up and contact to Schnell's ankle...
The ref made some odd calls, but no where near as questionable as the crowd made out. Someone above thought that Piper could've been sent off (I agree) yet most of the Birko crowd were getting themselves in a ruff whether it was even a foul.
On Auckland's midfielders - I think Howieson/Ilich/Garriga are fairly average players. By pressing Auckland, you make these players actually have to play some real football (instead of getting easy balls they can turn and play square from).
On Tade - I'm not a Birko regular but I'm sure I've seen Tade score a late one against them before and do the exact same thing.
He lunged, definitely got the ball, but also definitely made contact with the player. I only saw it live and while I thought it'd be a yellow, I think the ref saw studs up and contact to Schnell's ankle...
The ref made some odd calls, but no where near as questionable as the crowd made out. Someone above thought that Piper could've been sent off (I agree) yet most of the Birko crowd were getting themselves in a ruff whether it was even a foul.
On Auckland's midfielders - I think Howieson/Ilich/Garriga are fairly average players. By pressing Auckland, you make these players actually have to play some real football (instead of getting easy balls they can turn and play square from).
On Tade - I'm not a Birko regular but I'm sure I've seen Tade score a late one against them before and do the exact same thing.
Of course they're average. If they were any good they wouldn't be playing in New Zealand.
Of course they're average. If they were any good they wouldn't be playing in New Zealand.
Thats a bit harsh. Just as some people turn down overseas career moves for personal reasons, so to do people elect to stay and play in NZ.
Thats a bit harsh. Just as some people turn down overseas career moves for personal reasons, so to do people elect to stay and play in NZ.
Hobbo needs better PR, he's had Birko at this level for quite a while, and often with a low average team age. Add in all the Napier U19 success they have as well. They do steal the majority of their youth players off other clubs, mostly on the Shore, but not exclusively. But still, signing players is one thing, doing well is another. Wonder if he's wanted/ever tried for NZ age group gigs?
It was a bugger to see City equalise though, but that's why their guys are(n't) paid the big bucks. Guys on the deck obviously got to Tade for him to act the big man in front of them.
Christchurch Utd have now dropped more points in their three NL games than their 18 Southern League games. Obviously there's a big step up - they aren't playing Mosgiel and the like now - but they have been a bit disappointing. I was sold a big game. With the punishing format, 7 points dropped could already be just about it for them. They were probably lucky they didn't lose today; Mack Waite probably shouldn't be conceding from the position he did, and it seemed the majority of their shots were from deep.
Auckland United were probably not all there to win though either tbf. Murati had a big chance near the end but missed his touch. They need Redfearn/Zambrano firing, Redfearn did play a nice touch for that Murati chance, but don't remember much more. Fay reminds me a bit of Karunaratne, really nice with ball at feet and going past players, but needing that finish/final pass to separate the men from the boys.
It was a bugger to see City equalise though, but that's why their guys are(n't) paid the big bucks. Guys on the deck obviously got to Tade for him to act the big man in front of them.
Christchurch Utd have now dropped more points in their three NL games than their 18 Southern League games. Obviously there's a big step up - they aren't playing Mosgiel and the like now - but they have been a bit disappointing. I was sold a big game. With the punishing format, 7 points dropped could already be just about it for them. They were probably lucky they didn't lose today; Mack Waite probably shouldn't be conceding from the position he did, and it seemed the majority of their shots were from deep.
Auckland United were probably not all there to win though either tbf. Murati had a big chance near the end but missed his touch. They need Redfearn/Zambrano firing, Redfearn did play a nice touch for that Murati chance, but don't remember much more. Fay reminds me a bit of Karunaratne, really nice with ball at feet and going past players, but needing that finish/final pass to separate the men from the boys.
Re Red - Howieson was just a straight red for the tackle. Schnell wasn't through at all. There were defenders ahead of him and at best he's heading off towards the corner. It wasn't dissent, he was fairly collected and even spoke with the crowd...
He lunged, definitely got the ball, but also definitely made contact with the player. I only saw it live and while I thought it'd be a yellow, I think the ref saw studs up and contact to Schnell's ankle...
The ref made some odd calls, but no where near as questionable as the crowd made out. Someone above thought that Piper could've been sent off (I agree) yet most of the Birko crowd were getting themselves in a ruff whether it was even a foul.
On Auckland's midfielders - I think Howieson/Ilich/Garriga are fairly average players. By pressing Auckland, you make these players actually have to play some real football (instead of getting easy balls they can turn and play square from).
On Tade - I'm not a Birko regular but I'm sure I've seen Tade score a late one against them before and do the exact same thing.
He lunged, definitely got the ball, but also definitely made contact with the player. I only saw it live and while I thought it'd be a yellow, I think the ref saw studs up and contact to Schnell's ankle...
The ref made some odd calls, but no where near as questionable as the crowd made out. Someone above thought that Piper could've been sent off (I agree) yet most of the Birko crowd were getting themselves in a ruff whether it was even a foul.
On Auckland's midfielders - I think Howieson/Ilich/Garriga are fairly average players. By pressing Auckland, you make these players actually have to play some real football (instead of getting easy balls they can turn and play square from).
On Tade - I'm not a Birko regular but I'm sure I've seen Tade score a late one against them before and do the exact same thing.
Anyone know why the boys and girls youth leagues are different formats?
Anyone know why the boys and girls youth leagues are different formats?
anyone know why the replay of this game has disappeared off the internet - every link I have says it's private.
A possible reason is an extended pre-match conversation between the commentators (who weren't aware their mikes were live,) traversing a gamut of issues, and distinctly uncomplimentary re NZF