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The first half was not too bad but the second was a shambles. For long periods it was pretty quiet and we never really reached the intensity of game one. Now, ok, the match had a different intensity but we fell short of our role of lifting them...

Some observations from the back (Row V) of the FZ:

1. If you are in the FZ you stand (and chant) - end of story - there were a lot of seated people back here.

2. We need more chants and organisation. The main chant (clapclap clapclapclap clapclapclap clapclap PHOENIX! arms raised) is great and gets most people into it - but we use it too often.

3. It's pretty hard to hear the chants that begin in the front of FZ - when a chant starts the middle should turn around and spread the chant to the back - also - keep it going - it takes time to learn the more compicated chants (this is the main reason the simple ones work - but we can do better)

4. Everyone learn the Skatalites PHOENIX CITY - some at the back of bay 23 tried to get it going but it didn't take off.

5. A group behind me (often!) started chants about their girlfriend being a skank or how drunk they were - no one else gives a f**k and no one else is going to join in.

6. The way the FZ emptied out immediately after the final whistle because we had lost was DISGRACEFUL. We allowed the Jets a free walk off and only a few clapped the Nix off.

7. On the plus side - "Same old Aussies alway cheating" and "Who are ya?" and the "PHOENIX" and "Oh Wellington" chants were great.

..and giving the ZM "soccer" guy the "who are ya?" was pure class!!!

I'll shut up now.
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Have seen a number of people posting about the chanting seems to me many seem to forget that like the team a lot of us are new to this.I think the progress being made after what is our 4th home game is okay.Yes it did slacken in the 2nd half,maybe if some more people took  up the challenge to get things going it might get better.No way am i turning around to chant  Im there to watch the football first.We will get there but like the team it seems it might take longer than some would like.
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I'm not saying stand with your back to the game the whole time - just involve the rear of the stand in the chants - there are plenty of places to sit and watch the game - if you are in the FZ you are obligated to try and make it one of the most feared home support groups - and that means organisation

None of this is meant to be negative - just encouraging. Well - none except leaving on the final whistle - no excuses for that.
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Barca - how did you find the response when you started chants?
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Yea I agree with you on the leaving after the final whistle, you should really stay and applaud your team off the pitch, doesn't matter if they lose, they don't want to see people leaving without applauding them for their efforts .. About the chanting last night, I saw no problems at all, it was all good, there were a few I didn't understand but throughout the game I picked them up and chanted all along , YF zone was great last night and I look forward to the next home game in two weeks which I will be attending for sure.
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Barca - how did you find the response when you started chants?


Not bad - but my point is there are often conflicting chants and the result is a shambles rather than a unified whole. Let's face it - it works better with a few leaders and many joining in. I'm not setting myself up as a leader - just asking for a bit more co-ordination in the chants that are already being generated down the front.

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I was at the front (on crutches-massive effort)...and quite often it seemed that there were two different chants going on at the same time-the back and front sections chanting seperately. And when we did chant together the back was out of time with the front . This made our chanting less effective.  Needs to be more co-ordinated. We are new at this and im sure we'll get better. Maybe we do need fan leaders. In the middle preferably. Dave572007-09-10 13:34:00
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whoever was up the back banging on the corrugated iron, good work for getting a beat going.
 
was good to look round the stadium and see heaps of people getting into the clapping and yelling out 'Phoenix'. its a start
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sir les wrote:
whoever was up the back banging on the corrugated iron, good work for getting a beat going.
 
was good to look round the stadium and see heaps of people getting into the clapping and yelling out 'Phoenix'. its a start


There's not too many A-League grounds that the get the whole crowd involved in singing quite like the clapping Phoenix one

Perhaps to maintain some rhythm in the singing qwe should get the drums round closer <stirring smiliey>

Nobody really took up my 'You're going home in a westpac rescue flight' aimed at teh Newcy fans! :(
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People were sitting? Unforgivable. If they still refuse to stand during "stand up if you love the Nix" (or whatever chant you use that requires standing) you should expel them. kiwi pie2007-09-10 15:18:32
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Hard News wrote:
Stand up if you hate Melbourne ? 
 
Whatever it takes!
 
 
Anyway, you lot should love us- we gave you your point!
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sir les wrote:
whoever was up the back banging on the corrugated iron, good work for getting a beat going.
 
was good to look round the stadium and see heaps of people getting into the clapping and yelling out 'Phoenix'. its a start
 
Its amazing that the pc stewarts didnt stop them.   Sounded fcuken awsome
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I agree, however same old aussies always cheatin gets boring i have a few suggestions.
 
1:Take me home yellow road to the place i belong to the westpak to see the pheonix take me home yellow road . (to the country road tune by john denver)
 
2:we'll never die we'll never die
we'll never die we'll never die
keep the yellow flag flyin high coz the pheonix will never die
 
3:Ricky's fu#kin magic he wears a magic hat and when he saw thw westpak he sed i fancy that he wouldnt sign for sydney or melbourne coz there sh#te he singed wellington pheonix coz there f#kin dynomite
 
4: Pheonix theres only one pheonix theres only one pheonix theres only one pheonix
Pheonix !
 
5:When the other team miss sing how high do you want the nets how high do you want the nets how high etc same with wide
 
6:Build a bonfire build a bonfire but sydney on the top put melbourne in the middle and burn the Fu#kin lot!
 
7: We all agree that the pheonix are better than mellbourne better than melbourne.
 
8:This is so easy its like playin sydney clap clap clap clap clap
 
there  just a few i think we should sing
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walking along, singing a song, walking in a herbert wonderland
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There are leaders Benny, but unlike the end of the Bloc it's a thousand people, and that's hard to make it flow...
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JamesC wrote:
I agree, however same old aussies always cheatin gets boring i have a few suggestions.
 
1:Take me home yellow road to the place i belong to the westpak to see the pheonix take me home yellow road . (to the country road tune by john denver)
 
2:we'll never die we'll never die
we'll never die we'll never die
keep the yellow flag flyin high coz the pheonix will never die
 
3:Ricky's fu#kin magic he wears a magic hat and when he saw thw westpak he sed i fancy that he wouldnt sign for sydney or melbourne coz there sh#te he singed wellington pheonix coz there f#kin dynomite
 
4: Pheonix theres only one pheonix theres only one pheonix theres only one pheonix
Pheonix !
 
5:When the other team miss sing how high do you want the nets how high do you want the nets how high etc same with wide
 
6:Build a bonfire build a bonfire but sydney on the top put melbourne in the middle and burn the Fu#kin lot!
 
7: We all agree that the pheonix are better than mellbourne better than melbourne.
 
8:This is so easy its like playin sydney clap clap clap clap clap
 
there  just a few i think we should sing


I think this is a champion effort BUT... please spell Phoenix right!!  O before E for the Phoenix!!  I'll stop my rant now
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Hard News wrote:
There are leaders Benny, but unlike the end of the Bloc it's a thousand people, and that's hard to make it flow...
True that.
 
I noticed at the first game there seems to be all the leaders in one area. People up back sung their own chants, which were mainly phoenix clap clap clap and Phoeeeeenix. Obvious rugby goers and/or no prior chanting experience. Then were was a big gap between us and the YF leader crew, with everyone in between picking up chants when they really got going.
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Yep - that's my point really - we need chant leaders spread through the FZ (and the bay next to it). People who know a few chants and can take the rest of the crowd with them. A unified effort will sound awesome - and variety in chants is always good.

Don't get me wrong - I think the effort so far is excellent - just looking to improve.

Funnily enough I thought that when the drummers started in the second half the rhythm of the crowd was better despite the drummers copping some flak around the forum.
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Yes there was something missing (apart from a goal) when the drums were silent !!
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Theres a chant (kinda) well not really but when the opposition shoot and flys either side of the net or over , we just yell out ANYYYWHERRRRRRRRRRE

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Biggest disappointment for me on Sunday was that there wasn't a sound after the goal went in. That's the time when the FZ should be trying to lift the roof off the place.
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i second that AJ we should be cheering the boys back, never admit defeat, we should be singing the whole game, especially when we concede
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don't worry little fella, ther's a whole yella feva behind ya all the way
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Auckland Jag wrote:
Biggest disappointment for me on Sunday was that there wasn't a sound after the goal went in. That's the time when the FZ should be trying to lift the roof off the place.


it took about 5 minutes to come to terms with the fact we were somehow losing
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JamesC wrote:
No one will listen to me i'm only 13
 
Cheer up, Emo Kid!
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i  loved the reaction from the aust jets subs when they walked out to to the dug out they were truely shocked and all the blood drained from their faces when they walked out to "who are ya who are ya "  they weren't ready for that

 i also agree we need to lengthen out the chants so it can filter either up or down the fz
wellington is wonderful  is an awesome chant  just not so good when we all finish half a bar after each other
it's  still early days though boys we'll get it right soon
and i promise to stay till the boys leave the field from now on, although i was the only one booing the ref and assistants as they left, they can't enjoy the fact the have to walk right past us to get into the sheds.
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it was great to see their scared little faces
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seems I've got a seat allocated halfway between the front and the back of the YF zone - so the chants started at the front weren't heard too well at the back - and when they were the guys at the back were about a half bar behind the chants from the front, then the guys at the front would get the chant to the same time as the guys at the back after the chant was picked up by the guys in the middle of the YF.
So, looks like the chants need to start from the back and go forward down to front ...

... and there seemed to be less variety this time (we all live in a yellow stadium, yellow fever boys, etc was missing from the repertoire ....) 
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For all of you barking on about periods of silence or lack of certain chants, then START THEM UP YOURSELF
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Feverish wrote:
For all of you barking on about periods of silence or lack of certain chants, then START THEM UP YOURSELF
 
I'll be down for the Sydney game and, if they somehow manage to score, rest assured I will be roaring at the top of my voice before the ball's even been picked out of the net
Auckland Jag2007-09-12 10:44:16
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Feverish wrote:
For all of you barking on about periods of silence or lack of certain chants, then START THEM UP YOURSELF
 
Exactamundo! Why not start up the classic goal down song "The great escape"? Piss easy and keeps the vibe positive!
 
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Feverish wrote:
For all of you barking on about periods of silence or lack of certain chants, then START THEM UP YOURSELF


I think we have established that it's not starting chants that's the problem - it's getting everyone sing the same song without having clapclap Phoenix start up every five minutes because that's all they know FFS.

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Feverish wrote:
For all of you barking on about periods of silence or lack of certain chants, then START THEM UP YOURSELF
 
Always do mate, and not just at the stadium, at the backbencher too, i think people were just saying let's get behind the team and all sing, well thats what i'm saying

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