Coliseum Sports - EPL Overlords

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zonknz
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I think the idea sky were shocked is naive. Broadcasting is changing rapidly.

Netflix is already hurting their Movies business.

EPL was an obvious target, given their large number of simultaneous games in the 3pm Sat slot, even a sat broadcaster like Sky is poorly placed to meet this demand.

Note that one large rights package to Indonesia, NZ, and the pacific islands was sold, the rights were sub-sold to Coliseum in NZ.

I suspect the wider idea is we are a test market to look at how large market sports rights are sold direct without the bundling of all the other crud on sports channels.

As i have already said - it makes news corp recent exit highly dubious.
August 01, 2013 22:38 · Edited August 01, 2013 22:38
Junior82
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Here is a good summary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10906681

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros 

  • can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
  • Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
  • if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns
Cons
  • finding time to watch two more games of footy, in addition to Nix games 
  • it will cost $127.50, as opposed to me finding some free dodgy stream at 3 am on a Sunday or Monday morning (which in reality has only happened a handful of times)

August 01, 2013 22:52
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Ubbergunner, doesn't all of that still make it a good thing? Its all a lot better than we had previously. The renewal of the bid will be interesting for sure. 

August 01, 2013 23:08
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andyandysole wrote:
paulm wrote:

As I said before, for the fairweather fan this is great news. For the more serious fans, nothing has changed.




it is good news cos some of us cannot afford both sky and plp. to call people fairweather because they dont get it, you are clearly a ....


I can re-work $10 extra a month through our budget, and we're on one (not large) income with kids (well, one kid and one on the way). Serious fans go to these lengths.



August 02, 2013 05:56
paulm
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Sorry for implying that others aren't serious fans, just saying that I am, and having all these channels is critical for my wellbeing!

August 02, 2013 05:57 · Edited August 02, 2013 07:22
andyandysole
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paulm wrote:


I can re-work $10 extra a month through our budget, and we're on one (not large) income with kids (well, one kid and one on the way). Serious fans go to these lengths.



$10 extra a month doesn't pay for it. what school did you go to??




August 02, 2013 08:20
paulm
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I'm on Telecom, so it's $127.50 for a year = 10.63 per month



August 02, 2013 08:33
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Junior82 wrote:

Here is a good summary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10906681

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros 

  • can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
  • Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
  • if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Cons

  • finding time to watch two more games of footy, in addition to Nix games 
  • it will cost $127.50, as opposed to me finding some free dodgy stream at 3 am on a Sunday or Monday morning (which in reality has only happened a handful of times)

Umm, surely this is reason enough?!
August 02, 2013 08:52
paulm
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Has there been any discussion on the fact that Sommet says they will be broadcasting live on their website as well?

From the 'About' section of sommetsports.co.nz -

 

"Sommet Sports is launching a free to air sports channel on the Kordia terrestrial Freeview platform. If you are outside of this coverage area or wish to watch the channel on a computer, tablet or smart phone we will be streaming video of our channel live on the internet at this website."



This is huge. 
August 02, 2013 08:57
andyandysole
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paulm wrote:

I'm on Telecom, so it's $127.50 for a year = 10.63 per month



thanks for clearing that up. take the 63 cents out of the kids piggy abnks, they'll never know.
August 02, 2013 08:59
Junior82
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They won't notice the 3 cents at least.

August 02, 2013 08:59
andyandysole
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to be fair my decision is all based around time. 3 small kids doesn't leave much time on the weekends to watch a full epl game, and I cant be arsed getting up at 5am to 'make time'.

so sky, highlights and footytube is the way for me to go at the moment.

August 02, 2013 09:01
andyandysole
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Junior82 wrote:

They won't notice the 3 cents at least.



knowing paulm he will round it down rather than up
August 02, 2013 09:01
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El-Pistolero wrote:
Junior82 wrote:

Here is a good summary: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=10906681

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros 

  • can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
  • Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
  • if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Cons

  • finding time to watch two more games of footy, in addition to Nix games 
  • it will cost $127.50, as opposed to me finding some free dodgy stream at 3 am on a Sunday or Monday morning (which in reality has only happened a handful of times)


Umm, surely this is reason enough?!


Personal cost:benefit analysis is very promising
Family cost:benefit not so much

Also a budgeting thing as well.  Nix season tickets, AW 20 Nov game, travel/accomm for Napier game.  All certainties so spending another $127 although very cost effective per game is not a "no-brainer" decision.  Other things like rates and school fees/activities tend to push out these luxuries.
I've been without English footy since the days of Big League Soccer and free-to-air FA Cups.  Surprisingly I have got by and the sun still rises in the mornings (mostly).

August 02, 2013 09:06
paulm
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andyandysole wrote:

to be fair my decision is all based around time. 3 small kids doesn't leave much time on the weekends to watch a full epl game, and I cant be arsed getting up at 5am to 'make time'.

so sky, highlights and footytube is the way for me to go at the moment.


farken kids. I vowed never to watch delayed, ever. What a silly short-sighted vow that was. I'm already watching probably 50% of Arsenal games delayed and the number of kids is still growing. 
August 02, 2013 09:40
michaelme
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andyandysole wrote:

to be fair my decision is all based around time. 3 small kids doesn't leave much time on the weekends to watch a full epl game, and I cant be arsed getting up at 5am to 'make time'.

so sky, highlights and footytube is the way for me to go at the moment.


Pretty sure all PLP games can be watched delayed at least once within a week.  
August 02, 2013 09:40
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So is Telecom doing a deal with Coliseum. Read something in local rag today. I'm with Vodafone. Sharing the pass with my old man but my connection is great and his is rather pants.

August 02, 2013 10:25
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Ok n mind its all over the net. duh

August 02, 2013 10:26
paulm
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Just remember if sharing a pass, you can only log in on one device at a time

August 02, 2013 11:08
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Junior82 wrote:
El-Pistolero wrote:
Junior82 wrote:

Pros 

  • can watch Toon and Spurs on demand - at civilised times
  • Telecom gives 15% discount (plus already has increased data cap)
  • if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns

Umm, surely this is reason enough?!

Personal cost:benefit analysis is very promising

Family cost:benefit not so much

Also a budgeting thing as well.  Nix season tickets, AW 20 Nov game, travel/accomm for Napier game.  All certainties so spending another $127 although very cost effective per game is not a "no-brainer" decision.  Other things like rates and school fees/activities tend to push out these luxuries.

I've been without English footy since the days of Big League Soccer and free-to-air FA Cups.  Surprisingly I have got by and the sun still rises in the mornings (mostly).

I meant the part about getting out of the lawns! Honestly though, English football is really not that great. I'd say you're better off without the extra cost, to be honest. Going to the Nix/ AW games is much, much better than paying money which you don't necessarily have all the time for some game on the other side of the world. In my opinion, of course.

August 02, 2013 11:14
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Junior82 wrote:
El-Pistolero wrote:
Junior82 wrote:

I am procrastinating over this.

Pros 

  • if I watch the games then I get out of mowing the lawns


Umm, surely this is reason enough?!


Personal cost:benefit analysis is very promising

Family cost:benefit not so much


August 02, 2013 11:18
Junior82
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El-Pistolero wrote:
Going to the Nix/ AW games is much, much better than paying money which you don't necessarily have all the time for some game on the other side of the world. In my opinion, of course.



Yep - fully agree. 

Emotionally Spurs and Toon will always come before the Nix for me, but the NIx is a family thing for us.


Edit: And of course nothing beats live footy.  Except more live footy.


August 02, 2013 11:22 · Edited August 02, 2013 11:24
nufc_nz
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Junior82 wrote:
El-Pistolero wrote:
Going to the Nix/ AW games is much, much better than paying money which you don't necessarily have all the time for some game on the other side of the world. In my opinion, of course.



Yep - fully agree. 

Emotionally Spurs and Toon will always come before the Nix for me, but the NIx is a family thing for us.




August 02, 2013 11:24
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OK guys, lets get to work here.

 Please email [email protected] and tell them you want HD quality streaming. They said if there is enough interest they will make it happen. 

WE WILL NOT FAIL, WE WILL NOT FALTER !!!!!

thank you.

August 02, 2013 11:48
Junior82
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OK guys, lets get to work here.

 Please email [email protected] and tell them you want HD quality streaming. They said if there is enough interest they will make it happen. 

WE WILL NOT FAIL, WE WILL NOT FALTER !!!!!

thank you.


 
"I got all my sisters with me."

August 02, 2013 11:50
nufc_nz
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lol

August 02, 2013 11:58
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So who has sent them an email ?

I got a reply saying they are listening to feedback etc.......

August 02, 2013 19:36
Tegal
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Might do later. It'd be interesting if they offer something similar to sky's HD ticket

August 02, 2013 19:37
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nufc_nz wrote:

OK guys, lets get to work here.

 Please email [email protected] and tell them you want HD quality streaming. They said if there is enough interest they will make it happen. 

WE WILL NOT FAIL, WE WILL NOT FALTER !!!!!

thank you.


Done. C'mon guys, send a quick email. Could make all the difference!
August 02, 2013 19:56
zonknz
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I've sent an email.

August 02, 2013 20:12
zonknz
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Incidentally, the new iSKY is launching this weekend and they appear to have some new magic DRM on sky sports 1&2, which means it doesn't fookin work on linux (firefox) anymore on those sports channels. That's useful. eeeeediots. (It doesn't seem happy on chrome either.)

At least PLP does (yay!)


August 02, 2013 20:17
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sent an email. also asked them to clarify if all content can be viewed on demand or if it has to be viewed live

August 02, 2013 20:34
Tegal
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250 can be viewed multiple games. The rest can be viewed once - live or on demand. 

According to their FAQs

August 03, 2013 10:29
paulm
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michaelme wrote:

sent an email. also asked them to clarify if all content can be viewed on demand or if it has to be viewed live


Yea man this has been covered. Every game can be viewed once, live or otherwise (but has to be viewed within a week I think). Plus 60% or so of the games will also be available 'on demand' to be watched as often as you like.
August 03, 2013 10:38
Junior82
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Tegal wrote:

250 can be viewed multiple games. The rest can be viewed once - live or on demand. 

According to their FAQs


Techno-luddite question:  If you view games on-demand  (i.e. not live) - will the viewing be more reliable (won't cut out)?

August 03, 2013 10:38
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Junior82 wrote:
Tegal wrote:

250 can be viewed multiple games. The rest can be viewed once - live or on demand. 

According to their FAQs


Techno-luddite question:  If you view games on-demand  (i.e. not live) - will the viewing be more reliable (won't cut out)?


Possibly, depending on how they set things up. It's likely that it will be faster as it will be able to load into the future, like YouTube does.
August 03, 2013 10:40
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If so, that makes it more appealing.


August 03, 2013 10:42
Tegal
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The Asian trophy game I watched seemed to be set up like that and didnt cut out once. It is something I worried about. The first live game will be interesting 

August 03, 2013 10:46
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Has anyone got this to work on an iPad/Apple Tv yet?

August 03, 2013 12:00
Tegal
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I think they're making an app for it, not sure if they've released it yet, anyone know?

August 03, 2013 12:03
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